Sterling MH
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Powerplay should not be made Open-only. Here's why... [EDITED]
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Goose4291
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Yep... and what if I live in a different time zone to you?
Just as you said, power play was to encourage PvP, but the current system failed to do that, on contrary, to pewpew other players is greatly discouraged since everyone is hauling/npc farming in solo/pg. It's working against its original purpose so the dev want to change it now, in a way which would actually encourage PvP.
Exactly. And if you were Xbox player & I PS4 player, you could haul UAs as much as you like to my home station with total impunity from me. Only way I could counter that would be hauling MAs there.
Wait. You are okay with UA bombing in solo, or you are okay with it as long as it is in open? Sorry getting a bit of whiplash from trying to work out what your position is.
Sterling MH
Banned
Nope, I'm talking about PvP. Person A does action a, Person B does action b. If they oppose, then it is Person A's action against Person B's action. Action a and b are to make result C and ~C This is PvP.
You're talking about PvPpewpew. And it is the smallest part of PvP. If you want to know what the difference is, look at the difference between countries at war and between countries who are disagreeing with each other. There's a lot more of the latter than the former. And we LIKE it that way. pewpew is a tiny part of countering another player.
Why, after all, are you even doing b to counter A when b is "pewpew A directly"? It isn't "Because that's what I must do". If that were it, CQC is there to do that. You're doing it in PP to make your faction grow, make their faction shrink or stop the reverse of either. And pewpew A is merely one way out of those four, and only a tiny part of that one-quarter of PP PvP.
Wait, you are OK with UA bombing in open?? Sorry getting a bit of whiplash from trying to work out what your position is,.
Who cares about UA bombing? Easy to fix with merits...and a large couple of ships...
Goose4291
Banned
Exactly. And if you were Xbox player & I PS4 player, you could haul UAs as much as you like to my home station with total impunity from me. Only way I could counter that would be hauling MAs there.
Technical Limitations do not equal exploiting game features to create an unassailable wall for your opposition.
This is why there's so much toxicity surrounding the solo undermining issue, but not about PS4 or Xbox owners IMO
Sterling MH
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Well how will the change change that? Either there already ARE pewpewtargets in open and there is no issue, or the pewpewtargets won't move to Open to be pewpewtargets for you. Meaning it will get even MORE dead.
Look I think it best if you just bomb the crap out of the station so I can complain that it takes far too long to counter that afterwards? Besides. Gotta move meta alloys? Effort.
Can't I just stop you? Oh. Solo. Right.
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Goose4291
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Apart from the ones whove said their prepared to give it a try in the various feedback forums, you mean?
It MIGHT bring back more pewpewtargets that have stopped playing...until those pewpewtargets remember that nothing else has changed with the game and it's still antithetical to pew pew PVP....who will then demand more capitulations against the original stand of 'equal' access to gameplay from all modes...which FDev currently says they will not cave to...
Goose4291
Banned
Make sure youre part of a chosen player group.and whine on a direct discord to the community management team about it, so they can apply a hotfix on your behalf
Sterling MH
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Yeah? And? So you're no good in open?
Hmm, I suspect there are many who genuinely think that way.
But I'm also a bit more cynical, and I think there are at least as many who just want more soft targets in open.
Sterling MH
Banned
But not if there are now more pewpewtargets. So it has to have people move over to Open in the first place. And since you can decide not to PP, this is what those who do not currently play PP in open will do. Anyone willing to do otherwise already has and won't be new after the change.
Goose4291
Banned
Hmm, I suspect there are many who genuinely think that way.
But I'm also a bit more cynical, and I think there are at least as many who just want more soft targets in open.
Thats your call old chap, however in my experience with the people I play with, thats the consensus
You might be surprised how often then "it should be in open" demand happens. Usually after some philanthropic commander donates several of them at a station or ship during a high profile event and suddenly moving it to open is just fine.
There is a fair amount of double standard. I don't actually have a problem with that, moving it to open, by the way, it's just an observation
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Goose4291
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The best moment is where.someone suggests MA delivery should also be done in open too.
The results are.... passionate... to say the least.
Sterling MH
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Zero times? One?