It's not zero in game though I bet. It's an issue with edmc connector. That's what I used that sent the zeros.
Powerplay Weekly Statistics
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I doubt EDMC would misread the population reported from the Journal, so I'd suspect a game bug where the in-game population report and the journal population report can somehow be read from different mismatching sources.
It should be a very old, rare bug. Your game loads with an ancient cache for galmap and that will cause the journals to be sent incorrectly too - populations will show as some very old number, which for Trailblazers player-architected systems will be 0. I don't remember right now, but even Horizons-populated systems may show as unpopulated 0 too. Controlling government types/superpowers (can't check what the controlling faction is from galmap, though) will be different too as it is reflecting the reality from back when this cache is from. Pretty sure it isn't a day-one starting galaxy BGS state though.
Interestingly, the cache can be pinpointed very precisely to Update 2.2 Beta - it contains the original 2.2 state of some Colonia region systems like Desy and Ogmar ... but with their 2.2 Beta economies, not the slightly different ones they eventually released with in 2.2 live.
Week 30 is much the same as week 29 at the aggregate level in terms of results, though how it got there is a bit different.
* Estimator changed slightly, difference compared to previous week on new estimator
The big change is the drop in the reinforcement-undermining ratio: while remaining massively positive, 4.6:1 is the lowest on record. Total reinforcement was up slightly on the previous week, but total undermining doubled to narrowly exceed 10 million.
On the excess of free space side, total Acquisition targets passed 20,000 for the first time and we have two further growths in minor faction sizes, with the Dukes of Mikunn narrowly overtaking ALD on confirmed populated systems, while at the other end of the board, the Winged Hussars become the 7th minor faction to exceed Torval's size. The increase in undermining and the continuation of acquisition also means that the "weeks until every held system is fortified" estimates are rapidly accelerating, though reinforcement still remains the fastest action overall.
| Current value | Change from last cycle | |
| Week | 31 | +1 |
| Total System Count | 11,102 | +68 |
| Stronghold Count | 807 | +11 |
| Fortified Count | 1,859 | +28 |
| Exploited Count | 8,436 | +29 |
| Total Estimated CP Value (approximate cost to build the current structure from nothing) | 3,162,852,000 | +34,058,000* |
| Cheapest Destruction Cost (i.e. cost to demote all current systems to Exploited) | 2,133,660,000 | +30,520,000* |
| Stronghold Completion Percentage (current systems, by CP value) | 20.35% | +0.10%* |
| Number of Powers gaining systems | 11 | -1 |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, system count model) | 616 | +99 |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, control point model) | 216 | +57 |
| Reinforcement : Undermining ratio (CP) | 4.6 | -5.0 |
| Acquisition target estimate | 20,033 | +340 |
| Total net reinforcement estimate (CP) | 38,614,651 | -2,460,479 |
| Minor Factions larger than smallest Power | 7 | +1 |
| Powers smaller than largest Minor Faction | 10 | +1 |
The big change is the drop in the reinforcement-undermining ratio: while remaining massively positive, 4.6:1 is the lowest on record. Total reinforcement was up slightly on the previous week, but total undermining doubled to narrowly exceed 10 million.
On the excess of free space side, total Acquisition targets passed 20,000 for the first time and we have two further growths in minor faction sizes, with the Dukes of Mikunn narrowly overtaking ALD on confirmed populated systems, while at the other end of the board, the Winged Hussars become the 7th minor faction to exceed Torval's size. The increase in undermining and the continuation of acquisition also means that the "weeks until every held system is fortified" estimates are rapidly accelerating, though reinforcement still remains the fastest action overall.
Week 32 sees a swing back to Acquisition over Reinforcement again, and back to all 12 Powers making gains.
Interestingly, despite this week's heavy Acquisition the projection for "weeks until done" comes down slightly (it's based on a four week averaging), suggesting that we may be approaching the new stable point for that measure. To aid this mass fortification project, the Reinforcement/Undermining balance returns to more normal levels close to 10:1 after last week's unusually high total undermining.
On the total space side, the confirmed system count for Dukes of Mikunn narrowly takes them above Aisling Duval, so we've got a change in metric for future weeks: rather than measuring how many powers are smaller than the largest faction (as there's no plausible way this doesn't stay as "all of them") instead I'll be tracking how many minor factions are larger than the largest Power. This is likely to stay at '1' for quite a while, though, as the next two largest are rising much more slowly.
| Current value | Change from last cycle | |
| Week | 32 | +1 |
| Total System Count | 11,194 | +92 |
| Stronghold Count | 821 | +14 |
| Fortified Count | 1,883 | +24 |
| Exploited Count | 8,490 | +54 |
| Total Estimated CP Value (approximate cost to build the current structure from nothing) | 3,202,000,000 | +39,148,000 |
| Cheapest Destruction Cost (i.e. cost to demote all current systems to Exploited) | 2,166,220,000 | +32,560,000 |
| Stronghold Completion Percentage (current systems, by CP value) | 20.43% | +0.08% |
| Number of Powers gaining systems | 12 | +1 |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, system count model) | 543 | -99 |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, control point model) | 183 | -33 |
| Reinforcement : Undermining ratio (CP) | 9.6 | +5.0 |
| Acquisition target estimate | 20,321 | +292 |
| Total net reinforcement estimate (CP) | 43,079,459 | +4,464,808 |
| Minor Factions larger than smallest Power | 7 | == |
| Powers smaller than largest Minor Faction | 12 | +2 (measure to be retired) |
| Minor Factions larger than largest Power (new measure) | 1 | +1 |
On the total space side, the confirmed system count for Dukes of Mikunn narrowly takes them above Aisling Duval, so we've got a change in metric for future weeks: rather than measuring how many powers are smaller than the largest faction (as there's no plausible way this doesn't stay as "all of them") instead I'll be tracking how many minor factions are larger than the largest Power. This is likely to stay at '1' for quite a while, though, as the next two largest are rising much more slowly.
Yeah.... I figured out what was making the pops 0 in those systems. 
Flew around and updated.
Flew around and updated.
Not that they documented changing. Do you have an example system that makes you think that?
Thanks, that seems pretty obvious. Possibly some of the others have changed too, then - I'll need to remeasure when I get a moment.
by the way, to start Acquisition Conflict is 36 000, not 35 000 as mentionned in this file https://heatmap.sotl.org.uk/powers/refcard
it has changed since few month ago i think
Curiously, checking some larger (though not quite as large) swings elsewhere, I don't get estimates for the width of that band over 325,000 - and the Fortified band varies between <600k and >700k wide.
I wonder if the bands don't display linearly any more (acquisition never did)
I wonder if the bands don't display linearly any more (acquisition never did)
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Week 32 is a bit more reinforcement-heavy than the previous one, though everyone manages to find time to gain at least one system.
There's a slightly larger amount of undermining than last week, but overall the numbers are staying pretty stable and the progress in terms of fortified systems is actually faster.
The bubble continues to grow, but not in a way that significantly affects the figures this time.
| Current value | Change from last cycle | |
| Week | 33 | +1 |
| Total System Count | 11,272 | +78 |
| Stronghold Count | 837 | +16 |
| Fortified Count | 1,914 | +31 |
| Exploited Count | 8,521 | +31 |
| Total Estimated CP Value (approximate cost to build the current structure from nothing) | 3,244,922,000 | +42,922,000 |
| Cheapest Destruction Cost (i.e. cost to demote all current systems to Exploited) | 2,205,360,000 | +39,140,000 |
| Stronghold Completion Percentage (current systems, by CP value) | 20.56% | +0.13% |
| Number of Powers gaining systems | 12 | == |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, system count model) | 395 | -148 |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, control point model) | 135 | -48 |
| Reinforcement : Undermining ratio (CP) | 7.6 | -2.0 |
| Acquisition target estimate | 20,633 | +312 |
| Total net reinforcement estimate (CP) | 42,007,524 | -1,072,025 |
| Minor Factions larger than smallest Power | 7 | == |
| Minor Factions larger than largest Power | 1 | == |
The bubble continues to grow, but not in a way that significantly affects the figures this time.
as the end of the cycle is near the end, it seems clearer, in some of the systems when i was, the numbers are :
- acquisition : 36 000 / 120 000
- reinforcement : 350 000 / 650 000 / 1 000 000
but the old numbers, 333 000 / 667 000, have been valid during many month. The change is quite recent, maybe was with last update.
Thanks - I'll try to update the figures I'm using soon.
Week 33 brings Powerplay closer to its true peaceful meaning.
* Updated estimated to use new figures for Exploited and Fortified band sizes.
With the only effective undermining method now disabled, half of the weekly undermining disappears entirely - though, interestingly, so does about 10 million control points of reinforcement.
The net effect is basically nil - Acquisition and Reinforcement both proceed at roughly the same pace they had in previous weeks, showing how cosmetic Undermining was in the first place. Another 300 systems get added to the Acquirable pool, which continues to outpace the rate of Acquisition, and the estimated weeks until Fortification is complete falls again.
It looks like we might be in this new setup for a while, so there's a lot of opportunity for powers to gain even more territory.
| Current value | Change from last cycle | |
| Week | 34 | +1 |
| Total System Count | 11,348 | +76 |
| Stronghold Count | 855 | +18 |
| Fortified Count | 1,946 | +32 |
| Exploited Count | 8,547 | +26 |
| Total Estimated CP Value (approximate cost to build the current structure from nothing) | 3,335,675,000 | +46,050,000 * |
| Cheapest Destruction Cost (i.e. cost to demote all current systems to Exploited) | 2,267,300,000 | +42,800,000 * |
| Stronghold Completion Percentage (current systems, by CP value) | 21.00% | +0.18% * |
| Number of Powers gaining systems | 12 | == |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, system count model) | 344 | -51 |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, control point model) | 117 | -19 |
| Reinforcement : Undermining ratio (CP) | 14.0 | +6.4 |
| Acquisition target estimate | 20,932 | +301 |
| Total net reinforcement estimate (CP) | 32,507,693 | -9,499,831 |
| Minor Factions larger than smallest Power | 7 | == |
| Minor Factions larger than largest Power | 1 | == |
With the only effective undermining method now disabled, half of the weekly undermining disappears entirely - though, interestingly, so does about 10 million control points of reinforcement.
The net effect is basically nil - Acquisition and Reinforcement both proceed at roughly the same pace they had in previous weeks, showing how cosmetic Undermining was in the first place. Another 300 systems get added to the Acquirable pool, which continues to outpace the rate of Acquisition, and the estimated weeks until Fortification is complete falls again.
It looks like we might be in this new setup for a while, so there's a lot of opportunity for powers to gain even more territory.
"showing how cosmetic Undermining was in the first place."
lol
lol
Week 34 sees a substantial jump in new Acquisitions with over 200 new systems added.
As a result, despite there also being significant Reinforcement, the Stronghold Completion Percentage barely moves, and the weeks until Fortification completes get much longer again. Total Reinforcement rises significantly, and total Undermining drops slightly further, to see a record 17.9 ratio in favour of Reinforcement. It was running over 20:1 at many points during the week, so more may be possible.
Torval's recent gains almost take her back above the 7th minor faction in size, as the rate of new system claims gradually continues to decline.
| Current value | Change from last cycle | |
| Week | 35 | +1 |
| Total System Count | 11,560 | +212 |
| Stronghold Count | 878 | +23 |
| Fortified Count | 1,971 | +35 |
| Exploited Count | 8,711 | +164 |
| Total Estimated CP Value (approximate cost to build the current structure from nothing) | 3,402,125,000 | +66,450,000 |
| Cheapest Destruction Cost (i.e. cost to demote all current systems to Exploited) | 2,313,250,000 | +45,95,000 |
| Stronghold Completion Percentage (current systems, by CP value) | 21.02% | +0.02% |
| Number of Powers gaining systems | 12 | == |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, system count model) | 477 | +133 |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, control point model) | 146 | +29 |
| Reinforcement : Undermining ratio (CP) | 17.9 | +3.9 |
| Acquisition target estimate | 21,192 | +260 |
| Total net reinforcement estimate (CP) | 40,421,564 | +7,913,871 |
| Minor Factions larger than smallest Power | 7 | == |
| Minor Factions larger than largest Power | 1 | == |
Torval's recent gains almost take her back above the 7th minor faction in size, as the rate of new system claims gradually continues to decline.
Week 35 sees a massive (Ngurii-powered?) leap in acquisitions with almost 300 net systems gained.
We also pass 2000 Fortified systems for the first time and are coming up rapidly on 9000 Exploited. As a result of the extensive Acquisition, the CP value estimator exceeds +70 million change for the first time in a while - but the Stronghold completion percentage actually goes backwards as Acquisition outpaces Reinforcement! (The Fortification completion timers, on a four-week average, stay finite for now but won't if this continues)
The balance of Reinforcement to Undermining stabilises out, barely changed on last week - though significant increases were seen in Reinforcement totals rising to their highest estimated level since April.
On the colonisation side, the map expands further - though Torval's recent acquisitions move her ahead of the 7th largest minor faction by a single system. With Colonisation slowing down a bit, she might even be able to stay there if this rate of acquisition can continue.
Obviously there's a bunch of rule changes coming in for this week. I don't expect the further changes to merit awards to have much effect, as they're not touching CPs ... but the CGs themselves are currently piling on sufficient Undermining to their targeted systems that there might be a surprising blip in the reinforcement/undermining ratio - at current rates the two primary target systems are likely to see multiple millions of points of undermining (and a substantial but lower amount of reinforcement) by the end of the week, which will probably make this a record week for Undermining and give a (misleadingly!) closer-to-even ratio.
| Current value | Change from last cycle | |
| Week | 36 | +1 |
| Total System Count | 11,859 | +299 |
| Stronghold Count | 896 | +18 |
| Fortified Count | 2,003 | +28 |
| Exploited Count | 8,711 | +164 |
| Total Estimated CP Value (approximate cost to build the current structure from nothing) | 3,476,050,000 | +73,925,000 |
| Cheapest Destruction Cost (i.e. cost to demote all current systems to Exploited) | 2,356,050,000 | +42,800,000 |
| Stronghold Completion Percentage (current systems, by CP value) | 20.94% | -0.08% |
| Number of Powers gaining systems | 12 | == |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, system count model) | 1043 | +566 |
| Projected weeks until all occupied systems are Fortified or better (using last four weeks to extrapolate, control point model) | 274 | +128 |
| Reinforcement : Undermining ratio (CP) | 18.4 | +0.5 |
| Acquisition target estimate | 21,370 | +178 |
| Total net reinforcement estimate (CP) | 48,161,706 | +7,740,142 |
| Minor Factions larger than smallest Power | 6 | -1 |
| Minor Factions larger than largest Power | 1 | == |
The balance of Reinforcement to Undermining stabilises out, barely changed on last week - though significant increases were seen in Reinforcement totals rising to their highest estimated level since April.
On the colonisation side, the map expands further - though Torval's recent acquisitions move her ahead of the 7th largest minor faction by a single system. With Colonisation slowing down a bit, she might even be able to stay there if this rate of acquisition can continue.
Obviously there's a bunch of rule changes coming in for this week. I don't expect the further changes to merit awards to have much effect, as they're not touching CPs ... but the CGs themselves are currently piling on sufficient Undermining to their targeted systems that there might be a surprising blip in the reinforcement/undermining ratio - at current rates the two primary target systems are likely to see multiple millions of points of undermining (and a substantial but lower amount of reinforcement) by the end of the week, which will probably make this a record week for Undermining and give a (misleadingly!) closer-to-even ratio.