Pushing negative reviews on SOCIAL MEDIA
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Though it appears Frontier thinks mere words can make a difference:
Focused Feedback Thread - Outfitting UI in Odyssey
Greetings Commanders, Last week we posted a forum thread discussing optimisation and map UI in Odyssey. We'd like to thank you all for your comments and feedback which were gratefully received by the development team. A series of changes to UI based on that feedback can be expected in an...
Not a big fan of cancel culture and raging tw@tter lynch mobs, me. Or any sort of raging mob.
But you do you.
People are saying give them time, but this is the thing:
They've had time.
They've had time. And detailed issues submitted to trackers. And suggestions. And Alphas which players paid for. And a community willing them to succeed on three platforms. And patience from that community.
After 2 years and an paid Alpha, we get Odyssey - a FPS which many players didn't want, 30 frames-per-second on 3090s for a released product, nu-Planet Tech which looks broken for half the galaxy and exploration which NMS laughs at. Meanwhile legacy bugs remain unfixed, whole features like Multicrew and Powerplay have mould growing over them, and opportunities like ship interiors and true EVA are.....MIA.
I think Odyssey has become a breaking point for many players. Its not just issues within Odyssey itself, but how it reflects on long-standing issues players have had with the game, its development, and its lack of communication by FDEV for many years.
Look at that UI. Any player who saw that in development would have said "wait, no, this isn't right, and here's why" But we didn't get that chance did we?
FDEV even had time to reassure players via a roadmap. We're told around 100 people work on this game and despite those resources and that time, what did we get? Seven lines of text in that 'roadmap', excluding dates and 'many improvements'.
I'm I going to go on an all-out social media offensive which Kahless himself would be proud of? Ha ha, nope, I have far better things to do, and purely from a video game perspective, there are plenty of other games out there waiting and willing to entertain you. Games which get updates through each year, which publish roadmaps, and which have project managers who understand the desires of the players.
Right, enough typing, F1 is on and Hamilton had just smoked Leclerc like a kipper.
They've had time.
They've had time. And detailed issues submitted to trackers. And suggestions. And Alphas which players paid for. And a community willing them to succeed on three platforms. And patience from that community.
After 2 years and an paid Alpha, we get Odyssey - a FPS which many players didn't want, 30 frames-per-second on 3090s for a released product, nu-Planet Tech which looks broken for half the galaxy and exploration which NMS laughs at. Meanwhile legacy bugs remain unfixed, whole features like Multicrew and Powerplay have mould growing over them, and opportunities like ship interiors and true EVA are.....MIA.
I think Odyssey has become a breaking point for many players. Its not just issues within Odyssey itself, but how it reflects on long-standing issues players have had with the game, its development, and its lack of communication by FDEV for many years.
Look at that UI. Any player who saw that in development would have said "wait, no, this isn't right, and here's why" But we didn't get that chance did we?
FDEV even had time to reassure players via a roadmap. We're told around 100 people work on this game and despite those resources and that time, what did we get? Seven lines of text in that 'roadmap', excluding dates and 'many improvements'.
I'm I going to go on an all-out social media offensive which Kahless himself would be proud of? Ha ha, nope, I have far better things to do, and purely from a video game perspective, there are plenty of other games out there waiting and willing to entertain you. Games which get updates through each year, which publish roadmaps, and which have project managers who understand the desires of the players.
Right, enough typing, F1 is on and Hamilton had just smoked Leclerc like a kipper.
Though it appears Frontier thinks mere words can make a difference:
Focused Feedback Thread - Outfitting UI in Odyssey
Greetings Commanders, Last week we posted a forum thread discussing optimisation and map UI in Odyssey. We'd like to thank you all for your comments and feedback which were gratefully received by the development team. A series of changes to UI based on that feedback can be expected in an...forums.frontier.co.uk
But its still up to FD to do something.
In addition, that's in relation to feedback about a specific element of the game, where people gave constructive feedback, FD listened, and have chosen to act on it.
This thread, on the other hand, is about ranting and raving on reviews in order to make FD look bad
There's more to your life than a game.
People are dying because of idiots who don't know how to govern their own people and you want to raise hell over a game for $40?
Save your rage and blood pressure, and go do something useful with your life!
People are dying because of idiots who don't know how to govern their own people and you want to raise hell over a game for $40?
Save your rage and blood pressure, and go do something useful with your life!
I forgot that we aren't allowed to care about our hobbies anymore because bad things happen elsewhere in the world.
Yeah there are so many alternatives for hardish scifi space opera fan. Surely there are....?Who mentioned code? Not me.
That's got nothing to do with it, at least in the short term. Code is a consequence of decisions made higher up the chain. It's where those design/project & product management/deployment decisions are being made is where the problem is.
If a brand is dumb enough to invite that sort of action, they have to live with the consequences. Note: I also specified social/media, which is a far broader range of consumer action than just tweeting/blogging displeasure. It would be closer to consumer activism across the board. There are precedents for it.
It's possible to recover though:
How greedy microtransactions sparked EVE Online's disastrous Summer of Rage
This exclusive excerpt from Empires of EVE: Volume 2 recounts the 2011 in-game protests that brought CCP Games to its knees.www.pcgamer.com
That's a lot of work though, and not sure the ROI is worth it tbh. Maybe if you were heavily invested in the BGS/Player factions/Squadrons it might be, but not for me.
Easier just to uninstall it
Oh but there are none with scope and style of this game.
Unlikely to happen. Both Microsoft and Sony are well aware of this disaster, and they're not about to let it happen on their platforms with the subsequent hits to their reputation if they can avoid it. Well, maybe Microsoft, but Sony are Japanese and they care about their reputation and the long game. I've worked for both Japanese and American corporations, and the culture difference is like night and day.
I'm writing a strongly worded letter to my MP. I also suggest we all form outside of Parliament, whilst signing 'We shall overcome'.
Speak for yourself. I was quite happy with Horizons/Beyond and even got new accounts in the free Epic release, and was playing with squadron/wing friends doing lots of engineering, BGS and a new Fleet Carrier. I dreaded Odyssey in case it screwed up my PC with its demands, and its failure isn't that surprising to me. Don't try and fix what isn't broken, and ED wasn't broken just before Odyssey "dropped" (in more ways than one).
could learn a lot from SCS software, the developers of American Truck Simulator about how to release new game modes to their games. Just check out their new multiplayer Convoy Experimental beta on You tube and see how professional and well executed that release is going. If they can do it why cant FDEV?
I think we would be more likely to be heard if we actually sang rather than signed
Sorry I'll just get my coat.said Nero while Rome burned.
If you lot are such a Social Media heroes, why not do something good with your time instead of wasting it on hobbies. There are people in this world who don't have Hobbies, children who can't play games, because their Governments are out there trying to murder someone else because of the racial bigotry and religious beliefs. But you are okay with that because it's not happening to you and you're busy not playing spaceships cause your imurshun is broke.
You are obviously far too invested in something that is so unimportant if you've reached the point of trying to down a company, ruining their employees lives and generally making people feel miserable about themselves over a game!
Get some perspective! Play something else if it bothers you that much.
There were a few for competitions for paintjobs and a gaming PC (again) but I assume he means the roadmap one which pretty much mirrored the FDev post on the forum announcements and elsewhere "Greetings Commanders. We would like to share our immediate roadmap for Odyssey and talk a little more about performance and improvements." Source: https://twitter.com/EliteDangerous/status/1400866704276787203
You mean overpriced DLCs that add minor variation to existing gameplay? You might be on to something!
Just kidding, i love ETS2/ATS.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.