PVE mode = bad idea |RANT THREAD|

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Space Morons with foul-mouthed juveniles.

I honestly had a LOL.

I'm going to place that as my next PL/I job abend notice.

IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 731
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TIME=13.58.26 SEQ=00724 CPU=0000 ASID=0147
PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 070C4400 A90B111A ILC 2 INTC 78
SPACE MORONS WITH FOUL-MOUTHED JUVENILES
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AR/GR 0: 00000000/00000000 1: 00000000/00000000
2: 00000000/2ED9E4D0 3: 00000007/820A33B8
4: 00000000/294F31D8 5: 00000000/2ED9E200
6: 00000000/28AADD08 7: 00000002/00000100
8: 00000007/7F29ECF8 9: 00000002/7F29EC18
A: 00000000/00FD8B28 B: 00000000/000000E3
C: 00000000/006FF390 D: 00000000/00F9C5B8
E: 00000000/A90B111A F: 00000000/00FFFB4C
 
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It's not "PVP" that bothers me, it's the disgraceful trolling and rude behaviour that seems to inevitably accompany it. I just can't be bothered with it.

PVE as an option is good.
 
Elite Dangerous inst a pvp centered game, its a game THAT has pvp , its not the focus ,
the threat of greifing is part of the DANGER of ED , if we take away all the threats away from players then why bother playing?


I "bother" playing for the eye candy, to fly the ships, to cruise around the galaxy exploring the systems, to wave at passing CMDRs o7, to work the BGS with the team, and to do a number of other things. None of that requires a moron running into me with his ship or firing missiles up my bum to enjoy - not even in the slightest. If I want to play cat-and-mouse I know where the CZ, HazRES, and mission bulletin boards are. YMMV and all that
 
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4 if you don't want to get greifed move from Eravate, join a clan , run away from the combat, or just plain learn to fight , i don't see why you have to go and ruin the game FOR THE PEOPLE THAT PLAY IT CORRECTLY IN OPEN!!


How am I ruining the game for you? Are you saying that I'm not providing a target for you to PK and that is ruining your game? Are you too young IRL to think maybe I know I suck at this game and really don't care if I'm ever good at it, so I know there is no chance to win at PVP so why bother? My ship has a 7 million rebuy cost
 

El Dragoon!

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I "bother" playing for the eye candy, to fly the ships, to cruise around the galaxy exploring the systems, to wave at passing CMDRs o7, to work the BGS with the team, and to do a number of other things. None of that requires a moron running into me with his ship or firing missiles up my bum to enjoy - not even in the slightest. If I want to play cat-and-mouse I know where the CZ, HazRES, and mission bulletin boards are. YMMV and all that

what are you trying to say, honestly it seems your repeating what i was trying to say, i am seeing a pattern with the subject


also see disclaimer
 
greifers are part of the game. i lived with it when i was noob, other people have live with it when they were noobs , why are some people special? and have rights to avoid a solid part of the game

You have to understand that a lot of Elite players predate the era of online gaming. Nowdays there's a large chunk of the gaming population that when they were born, online gaming was a thing, then there's other Elite players that predate gaming entirely. The players that predate gaming, or online gaming are older, less interested in violent conflict than younger players, and should be given the privilege to play the game in a way that they'd get enjoyment from it.

Polls show that among all gamers, most gamers are interested in offline content over multiplayer. It's just a bad business to force a minority of pvp inclined players to dictate the gameplay of pve players, or drive them away entirely. Pve players get to play in a way they enjoy the game, and PVP players have plenty of ways to enjoy themselves also 1) picking on helpless players 2) organized pvp 3) cqc
 
Your focus on the danger of open shows how you fundamentally misunderstand why some people play the game - just as there is more than one game mode, there's more than one way to enjoy the game.

If someone doesn't enjoy PvP - indeed, has no interest in it whatsoever - why should they play open? I far prefer BF3/4 for PvP. It's less random and more skill-based than PvP combat in the main game. I've never been griefed, although I've had to remove myself from some situations that were becoming too dangerous for my ship to handle, and I've shot up a fair few other CMDRs in conflict zones. Just because I want to do that doesn't mean I get to dictate how other people play.

With regard to the assertion that another game mode would further split the community, that's debatable - how many players of solo/private group (e.g. Mobius) move over to openPvE? I suspect a great many would. Those who just want to be left alone would stick to solo, but the Mobius players?

In short, there's more to the game than PvP and the possibility of hostile encounters. The recent events in Mobius and FD's mealy-mouthed response to deliberate griefing by a player group they had recently given free publicity to is, IMO, sufficient cause for FD to seriously consider an openPVE mode. I won't play it, but then again I don't think it's my place to judge how other people want to play their games. Watching my kids mess around in Star Wars: Battlefront can be frustrating at times, as it seems they're often more interested in trying to snipe the bots in the balls than complete the missions, but whatever - at least they're enjoying themselves. Right?

And before you start, I play open.
 
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El Dragoon!

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How am I ruining the game for you? Are you saying that I'm not providing a target for you to PK and that is ruining your game? Are you too young IRL to think maybe I know I suck at this game and really don't care if I'm ever good at it, so I know there is no chance to win at PVP so why bother? My ship has a 7 million rebuy cost


your post gave me cancer ,

READ MY POST BEFORE YOU COMMENT *sigh* your ruining this game because you think the easy way is the right way,
a good 50% of players deal with greifers with out fighting back and there fine, being in danger is part of the game, that danger be from CMDRs or NPCs *sigh*


see disclaimer
 
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Nope. It isn't a 'danger of ED'. It has nothing to do with the game I purchased at all. I have no wish to play Space Morons with foul-mouthed juveniles. I bought ED for myself, to play my own way, possibly in the company of like-minded individuals. And no I don't need to 'learn to fight' - if I wanted to engage in PvP, I would do so in a game which actually encouraged real tactical skills in a meaningful combat environment, rather than the arbitrary arcade pew-pew of Elite. It simply lacks the content to be worth bothering with as a serious combat arena.

Mud slinging and name calling is never gonna work out well. No one has ever really explained this to me but perhaps you can. How come since the first time I started playing the game in Alpha to the present day, why have I never been 'griefed'? For the most part I rarely see other players and I almost exclusively play in Open. Times where I have been attacked by another player have been a tiny number of times.. I find when it does happen to be exciting, dynamic and interesting..

Isn't this all hysteria from drama queens?
 
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El Dragoon!

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Your focus on the danger of open shows how you fundamentally misunderstand why some people play the game - just as there is more than one game mode, there's more than one way to enjoy the game.

If someone doesn't enjoy PvP - indeed, has no interest in it whatsoever - why should they play open? I far prefer BF3/4 for PvP. It's less random and more skill-based than PvP combat in the main game.



With regard to the assertion that another game mode would further split the community, that's debatable - how many players of solo/private group (e.g. Mobius) move over to openPvE? I suspect a great many would. Those who just want to be left alone would stick to solo, but the Mobius players?

In short, there's more to the game than PvP and the possibility of hostile encounters. The recent events in Mobius and FD's mealy-mouthed response to deliberate griefing by a player group they had recently given free publicity to is, IMO, sufficient cause for FD to seriously conside an openPVE mode. I won't play it, but then again I don't think it's my place to judge how other people want to play their games. Watching my kids mess around in Star Wars: Battlefront can be frustrating at times, as it seems they're often more interested in trying to snipe the bots in the balls than complete the missions, but whatever - at least they're enjoying themselves. Right?

And before you start, I play open.


you think open is pvp mode? LOL no, for gods sake, open mode is a mode intended to be full of players and npcs alike doing normal stuff every day, greifrs traders ect. we take away pvp from open , what then? no more counter CGs and cmdr interaction will become novelty and will be useless

see disclaimer
 

El Dragoon!

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Mud slinging and name calling is never gonna work out well. No one has ever really explained this to me but perhaps you can. How come since the first time I started playing the game in Alpha to the present day, why have I never been 'griefed'? For the most part I rarely see other players and I almost exclusively play in Open. Times where I have been attacked by another player have been a tiny number of times.. I find when it does happen to be exciting, dynamic and interesting..

Isn't this all hysteria from drama queens?


your definition of "greifed" is?

some players tend to think any player combat interaction is a "greif" while some think it as just something trolls do ,

also, your right this is mainly do to the mass of butt hurt from mobuis , they couldent take it so they lashed out to the forums
 
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your definition of "greifed" is?

some players tend to think any player combat interaction is a "greif" while some think it as just something trolls do ,

also, your right this is mainly do to the mass of butt hurt from mobuis , they couldent take it so they lashed out to the forums

My definition of grief? It never makes it into a video game. However, since you are asking, grief is watching loved one die in your arms. I've had that experience and let me tell you nothing that happens in a computer game will ever come close. ;)
 

El Dragoon!

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My definition of grief? It never makes it into a video game. However, since you are asking, grief is watching loved one die in your arms. I've had that experience and let me tell you nothing that happens in a computer game will ever come close. ;)

whats your video game definiton of greif? =P
 
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