Comment was based upon many comments I've seen over the years.. i was attacked for 'no reason' and they didnt even say anything.. Then they drone on about asking for too much cargo, or not having a cargo scanner.. It goes on and on.
There is plenty of video evidence out there, and that's just from players that record their game play, yet apparently that's not convincing? ok, I really have nothing else to say to you then.
Just don't. The topic is toxic the attitudes to anything that doesn't toe the line of pacifist leads to toxic. On all sides. Because it's become sides. Not a combined charge to push frontier to do the right thing.
I want to point out that comments like this help turn things toxic, they are part of why things can turn toxic, and it is far from uncommon in my book to see people posting like this, treating people according to their own presumptions regardless if or if not they hold merit, and that happens on both sides of the extreme's, "pacifists" do it, and "Hard core PvPers" do it both sides of the extreme, and guess what? that does turn things toxic, but the vast majority of people are not participating in this, heck I'd go to say that there are max a few hundred people actually 'in' each extreme side, but two hundred people can easily flood and derail a forum, however that doesn't mean that what those two hundred says is true, or even holds any facts, it just means they are the loudest on the forum. But they in no way represent the whole, but yes it easily begins to sweep others into their camps, I'm hoping people will begin realising this and stop going into the camps and see both sides for what they are.
Like many of these misunderstandings, it depends on the definition you use for the contentious words.
ETA: I prefer the term 'ganking'
The definition of griefing is petty clear, and note my posts where I point out that if there is no in game gain, then the reason for the attack would be something else, and griefing is, attacking others for the joy of disrupting their game, so it is actually pretty solid, however regardless of how solid something is defined, that definitely doesn't stop people from misusing it, that I entirely agree on. But there is griefing in the game, mostly because you have to remember that a 'target' can also be a group of players, not a single person. And many seem to try to avoid being labelled griefers by indicating "but I only kill xxxx newbies/weak targets once each!" that's not how it works.
Ganking is entirely different, it isn't another word for overkill. Ganking is when someone weaker teams up against someone stronger to win, multiple vs single. But I can't fault you for thinking it means overkill because its been misused an enormous amount of times.
As a person who doesn't stick his head in the sand, I have to say, check your privilege as a pro-PvE user on this forum.
You may want to check your prejudices and presumptions too, just saying, and that goes for both sides in this debate, the two extreme's are equally good at it.
How exactly was SDC's fundraiser 'fake'?
Money was donated. It was given to the relevant charity.
If money was donated it wasn't fake, but such fundraisers are often seen as fake.
It is basically like funding something with blood money. "Here these money are from people that enjoy ruining games for people"
So yeah, is it a fundraiser, yeah. Is it fake? in the sense that you are encouraging stuff that is seen as bad and disrupts other people's enjoyment, in the name of doing something 'good', so -1 + 1 = 0, fake.
From other stereotypes.
Rich people holding a party fundraiser is generally seen neutrally, but they do something good instead of just partying, like they normally do, so it comes out good. 0 + 1 = 1.
People taking time away from work or out of their normal routine, doing stuff they wouldn't do to help someone else via fundraiser? seen as very good. 1 + 1 = 2.
People claiming to do a fundraiser and keep money to themselves? fake. 1 - 1 = 0.
People doing a thing that affects others negatively, to give money to a cause. fake. -1 + 1 = 0.
people doing stuff they would do normally, and keeping money would end up. 0 - 1 = -1.
Only thing worse would be someone doing a negative thing to raise money and keep them to themselves. -1 - 1 = -2.
Of course I'm trying to flesh it out to the most clear examples hence the simple numbers. But calling it fake is generally what it is, but yes, that doesn't mean money weren't donated and that the money aren't important, it means though that you took a jerk way of doing it. And that is really hard to appreciate on a whole
More like, "it's not what you say, but the way you go about saying it" is how you go about getting infractions. If your post content is snide, disrespectful, rude, harassing, etc, you're going to get the wrath of the moderation team - no matter if you're a PVP'er or PVE'er or even a RP'er. There are moderators on these forums that PVP, and PVE - contrary to popular statements posted out there!
Would be lovely with a filter, say, if a topic had a million posts, it would get its own subfolder or such in another folder indicating such and wouldn't end up in the flood of threads that you see when looking at for example new posts and discussions. Instead maybe a single post indicating that said folder existed with x threads, because I think much of the perceived bias, comes from people seeing that flood of posts and getting the impression that 'everyone' is like that, when that flood is made by a relative small number of players.
Also, it seems you can't see unique participants in threads anymore? can it be re-enabled? might help put things in perspective.
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