Why ? It's not the best explorer, not the best trader.
There will always be a "best" ship in something.
Next in line will probably be Cobra/ASP.
Python/Class 6 thruster issue? (Devs please have a look)
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Why ? It's not the best explorer, not the best trader.
There will always be a "best" ship in something.
Next in line will probably be Cobra/ASP.
The maneuverability goes down one pip (6/10 -> 5/10, i.e. -17%), the shields get reduced but still will be second best in the game.
The speed also gets a serious hit, I'll give you that. But "ridiculous"? I don't think so.
The Viper is a heavy fighter. When you go heavier, they aren't really 'fighters' and have to fight more like ships.
But the BEST combat ship should be.......dadum sishhh! A COMBAT SHIP. Not an all rounder which is what the Python is supposed to be. The Vulture is going to be a dedicated large combat ship. It will be crap at anything else so the Python needs toned down to make room for it.
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Whatever man, you're just twisting words here. You already got the nerf you wanted, so what's your point?
And it is NOT best combat ship. You flew and own that ship?
At now this ship cannot attact but can defend yourself effectively. On nerf speed and shield it will not be able to defend. It will be another space truck.
Everybody AT NOW can easly flee from Python fire. It was never a good combat ship.
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I am currently flying a Cobra, since I recently did an ironman restart. I will probably continue to fly a Cobra even if I get the credits to afford something larger, because I adore the Cobra for nostalgic reasons.
And be really careful here -- whether I am flying a Python myself or not has absolutely no impact on the validity of my opinion. You haven't flown a post-nerf Python either, and no-one needs to provide credentials to go with his opinion.
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There we go. You are aware that dismissing the opinion of people who haven't flown or aren't flying a Python themselves is a fallacy?
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I have flown and owned every ship in the game. I could easily pimp out a conda but the Python is a better combat ship. I am now flying the Python fully equipped for combat and a T9 for trading... So your point is?
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No, but your credibility on calling for design changes on something you haven't tried out yourself is getting a hit.
...that we know of. Perhaps this is partly to make space for a dedicated heavy fighter?
If the Python ends up being the next step up from the Cobra and we get medium and heavy fighters come in as steps up from the Viper then I doubt we'll hear many people complaining.
May I have your attention please...
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=86856&p=1556219&viewfull=1#post1556219
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i believe both of you shads and kyokushin were posting to keep the python as is therefore posting for it not against it
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Only if you're falling for that fallacy.
I don't ask you about your history in game design to discredit your opinion either.
I am trading toward the Python almost since I started playing the game. I've always wanted a good multi-purpose ship and decided the Python was my first choice.
I am now at +45 millions and earning from 5 to 8 per day, only to find that the ship is going to be nerfed.
This are not good news to people that cannot play the game the whole day like many others seem to do and make progress a lot slowlier. I have now the feeling that am always late to everything at this game.
I really hope devs to think more about giving some price to players that invest the time to gain the credits to buy a Python (which in my case is a loong way) instead of taking features out of the ships that, like it or not, are the motivation of a decent amount of players, no matter the reason behind it.
I am now at +45 millions and earning from 5 to 8 per day, only to find that the ship is going to be nerfed.
This are not good news to people that cannot play the game the whole day like many others seem to do and make progress a lot slowlier. I have now the feeling that am always late to everything at this game.
I really hope devs to think more about giving some price to players that invest the time to gain the credits to buy a Python (which in my case is a loong way) instead of taking features out of the ships that, like it or not, are the motivation of a decent amount of players, no matter the reason behind it.
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You don't get a point.
Spending 250 million on a ship with upgrades does not grant you an I-Win button, if it did then the only playable class in this entire game would be the trader class. Thankfully, that isn't how the game was designed. The pilot skill in flying and outfitting their ship is the only thing that matters in PvP combat and that is how it SHOULD be. Not how much money the ship is worth, especially considering the current imbalance in the way professions pay per hour which grossly favors traders who don't have much trigger time or combat experience.
Ozrix
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Then why are design decisions made based on user feedback? At the very least experience the thing you want changed before making the call.
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It's sick FD wake up ! nerfing ship that costs money that need hard working doing booring stuff to buy a ship that is made boring ? So we will have another "Orca" called "Python" but this time not so agile...
And for the record i do not own Python best ship i can buy atm is maybe Imperial Clipper, but i think that ships that costs 100 times more than a "Cobra" or 200 times more than Viper (that magical ships that every nerf crying noob flies) should be powerfull enough to take over one or even 2 of these alone! not even loosing shields in battle with these small ships
After nerf it will be like speedboats equipped with machinegun taking out a destroyer where in the world is this possible ? Only in cheap action films ?
And for the record i do not own Python best ship i can buy atm is maybe Imperial Clipper, but i think that ships that costs 100 times more than a "Cobra" or 200 times more than Viper (that magical ships that every nerf crying noob flies) should be powerfull enough to take over one or even 2 of these alone! not even loosing shields in battle with these small ships
After nerf it will be like speedboats equipped with machinegun taking out a destroyer where in the world is this possible ? Only in cheap action films ?
What I mean is, I wouldn't expect larger ships to be dogfighting and engaging in a type of battle like an Eagle of Viper would.
'Fighter' has connotations to that sort of vehicle, meaning more than a sort of combat vessel.
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