It's been a while since I've done any major trading so I've been mostly flying my Combat Krait's or my DBX so when the latest CG started flying my T9 was a bit of a shock to the system, to paraphrase Douglas Adams, it flies gracefully in much the same way as Bricks don't. After the initial shock I've grown to love it, it handles like a heavy working cargo hauler and as someone else mentioned once you adapt to it you can throw it it around quite aggressively. My carrier is currently in orbit around a gas giant in He Bo and on approach the gravity well can easily turn into a loop of shame. I've started experimenting with using the planet to aerobrake my speed on approach and while exhilarating it works and I usually end up slowing perfectly into the millions of meters from my FC. Also flying a T9 on approach to a station you don't have to take any poop from anyone.
Reason to use T9 over Cutter for Trade
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I was going to say that. T10 for me (a T9 for noobs) works very well as a bulldozer, against tourist Beluga's mucking about near Jaques docking slot when some of us have work to do!
Just in case no one mentioned already...
NO, There is absolutely no reason to use a T-9 if you have access to a Cutter unless you really like more the T-9 (why would you do that, it beats me - T-9 has worse supercruise handling than the Cutter)
In solo - the Cutter can be run as a light Cutter without shields and ferrying more cargo with a bigger jump range than the T9
Shielded - as in flying in a dangerous environment, Cutter will be able to ferry a bit less* than the T9, but with way more shielding (like 4 times better, maybe more) while still being able to jump farther.
*(Some of the elders might still have legacy shields with +% to minimum optimal mass which would allow 5A shields with that effect to fit on a Cutter)
In all aspects, T-9 is the cheaper, uglier, slower and with a lesser jump cargo ship than the Cutter.
For mining, the Cutter is an even better choice since it has enough hardpoints to make a decent miner while still having the shields and the firepower to kill NPC pirates in rings.
I use my shielded T9 on trade CG's carrying 768t and generally love it, as others have said it 'feels' exactly as you'd expect a big space haulage track would.
Chain interdictions can be a bit annoying as I don't load any weapons to keep the mass down, so I generally submit, boost and jump but as I have dirty drag drives heat can be an issue after a few in a row. It all adds to the excitement. Love the sound and the cockpit, it's a real workhorse.
I bought a Cutter a few years ago during one of the betas and fully engineered it but I just didn't like the drift, maybe if I bought one and spent some time with it I may get used to it but other than trade CG's & BGS work I wouldn't really use it over the t9?
I mean, I really like the Imp ships, I have both the courier and the clipper, while I now use the courier a lot on Odyssey settlement missions, the Clipper spends most of it's time under covers on my FC. I use it occasionally for Station recues but that's it.
I suppose one thing is if I was a mission provider and I wanted someone to move 1000t of LTD, Void opals or Platinum I think I would prefer them to be using a well armed and shielded Cutter than a weapon less, unshielded t9, just saying. Biowaste, that's your t9
Chain interdictions can be a bit annoying as I don't load any weapons to keep the mass down, so I generally submit, boost and jump but as I have dirty drag drives heat can be an issue after a few in a row. It all adds to the excitement. Love the sound and the cockpit, it's a real workhorse.
I bought a Cutter a few years ago during one of the betas and fully engineered it but I just didn't like the drift, maybe if I bought one and spent some time with it I may get used to it but other than trade CG's & BGS work I wouldn't really use it over the t9?
I mean, I really like the Imp ships, I have both the courier and the clipper, while I now use the courier a lot on Odyssey settlement missions, the Clipper spends most of it's time under covers on my FC. I use it occasionally for Station recues but that's it.
I suppose one thing is if I was a mission provider and I wanted someone to move 1000t of LTD, Void opals or Platinum I think I would prefer them to be using a well armed and shielded Cutter than a weapon less, unshielded t9, just saying. Biowaste, that's your t9
The type-9 has legend status. It’s grouse. If the statement appeals to you there is no other.
In practice, I use the cutter for missions, mine is fully armed with 648 (i think) tonnes and just to break up the monotony I usually stop and fight interdictions.
I have 2 type 9s though, one as a general purpose exploration ship with the raider cosmetics, and one as an empty shell for transfer between the carrier and a station. The extra hundred tonnes adds up over time.
The type 10 has taken over as my favourite type 9, if it were just the trails no, but the cruising engine noise sounding a bit like a jet plane? Too good. And the ship kit… it’s also true multipurpose…
Err the type 9 is a peterbilt and the cutter is the international lone star with the sky rise sleeper (I have no idea what I’m talking about)
In practice, I use the cutter for missions, mine is fully armed with 648 (i think) tonnes and just to break up the monotony I usually stop and fight interdictions.
I have 2 type 9s though, one as a general purpose exploration ship with the raider cosmetics, and one as an empty shell for transfer between the carrier and a station. The extra hundred tonnes adds up over time.
The type 10 has taken over as my favourite type 9, if it were just the trails no, but the cruising engine noise sounding a bit like a jet plane? Too good. And the ship kit… it’s also true multipurpose…
Err the type 9 is a peterbilt and the cutter is the international lone star with the sky rise sleeper (I have no idea what I’m talking about
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Its all about appearances.
People drive Rolls Royce to show off their wealth.
People drive Aston Martin's to show off their suave and sophistication.
People drive Saab's to show that they are old balding headteachers.
People fly T9's to show that they are hard as nails, can lift 3 Volvos and have an ENOURMOUS brain ...
People fly Cutter's to show off that they drink baby formula from a sippy cup and get their mum to read them bedtime stories.
People drive Rolls Royce to show off their wealth.
People drive Aston Martin's to show off their suave and sophistication.
People drive Saab's to show that they are old balding headteachers.
People fly T9's to show that they are hard as nails, can lift 3 Volvos and have an ENOURMOUS brain ...
People fly Cutter's to show off that they drink baby formula from a sippy cup and get their mum to read them bedtime stories.
Actually people fly Cutters to show off their wealth, suave and sophistication, and not at last they're not to be messed with.
Flying in rags proves nothing except...well... rags.
So the T9 pilots enormous brain tells him that its better than a Cutter, yeah righto
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is the result of the bumping along the road and/or due to always being on the verge of a stroke while trying to turn the T-9 in supercruise... most of them still preferring to drop in normal space to do a 180 while still cursing aloud and a lot during the maneuver
you called always drive a renaultI use a Heavily armored and fully combat capable Cutter, 624T capacity and 34LY jump fully loaded.
Using a T9 again would be like me swapping my Scania for an Iveco - never gonna happen
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and pretend you drive a man.LOL i had a 410 a few years back, that got swapped for an Actrosyou called always drive a renault
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Thanks for the replies guys.
One of the reasons I started using the Cutter for cargo work over anything else was down to a particular issue I had with interdictions. Basically, no matter what I did I'd "lose" the mini-game. I'd keep on the escape vector, top up the relevant bar but still be dragged out of SC and suffer the "you lost" FSD cool-down penalty. This happened time and time again yet, prior to this, I never really had too many issues evading - I flew a Type 7 a lot to get my space trucker experience.
So, when I wanted to cargo haul - be it for a CG or just general trade - I wanted a ship I could submit, then get away, thus avoiding whatever the Interdiction bug was. Now, this bug was years ago, but I got into the habit of running as the Cutter was so good at it.
I will likely outfit a Type 9 for cargo, just cos, but that'll be after the CG is done most likely.
One of the reasons I started using the Cutter for cargo work over anything else was down to a particular issue I had with interdictions. Basically, no matter what I did I'd "lose" the mini-game. I'd keep on the escape vector, top up the relevant bar but still be dragged out of SC and suffer the "you lost" FSD cool-down penalty. This happened time and time again yet, prior to this, I never really had too many issues evading - I flew a Type 7 a lot to get my space trucker experience.
So, when I wanted to cargo haul - be it for a CG or just general trade - I wanted a ship I could submit, then get away, thus avoiding whatever the Interdiction bug was. Now, this bug was years ago, but I got into the habit of running as the Cutter was so good at it.
I will likely outfit a Type 9 for cargo, just cos, but that'll be after the CG is done most likely.
t9 actually nets more per hour despite being slower if your route is less than 19ly.
I am Elite V in trading and have never had an issue avoiding an interdiction with my t9. I stripped the shields and weapons off it a long time ago.
I have a Cutter too. With no shields but with flight assists they both carry 784.
The problem with the Cutter is that Autodock doesn't know how to account for the drift. I have timed both and the t9 is actually faster round trip when you account for the difficulties landing the Cutter.
Cutter is only better because you can get a few more ly jump out of it so that can make a difference depending on the route you find. Cutter is also obviously better if you actually want to kill some NPC pirates along the way (but would need to sacrifice some cargo space for the shields).
I am Elite V in trading and have never had an issue avoiding an interdiction with my t9. I stripped the shields and weapons off it a long time ago.
I have a Cutter too. With no shields but with flight assists they both carry 784.
The problem with the Cutter is that Autodock doesn't know how to account for the drift. I have timed both and the t9 is actually faster round trip when you account for the difficulties landing the Cutter.
Cutter is only better because you can get a few more ly jump out of it so that can make a difference depending on the route you find. Cutter is also obviously better if you actually want to kill some NPC pirates along the way (but would need to sacrifice some cargo space for the shields).
Spot on mate, that's why i love this game as we all like flying different stuff, i love the T9 its my favorite laser miner, i just prefer the security a Cutter offers in high risk hauling.
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Sometimes I wonder that, too.
Then I hit boost on my Cutter, see it accelerate to 500+ m\s (760-ton build with 8A engines and 5D shield) and wonder why I ever wondered that.
So the T9 pilots enormous brain tells him that its better than a Cutter, yeah righto
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