Abandoned [RELEASE] Trade Computer Extension

[eventure]

I am playing on the regulare ED. Not the beta servers. I fixed that issue by changing the paths in the setup, that worked somewhat but when i try to register a station, TCE seems rather slow when i try to use the tab holding the unregistered station tag. i notice that processing is paused in the upper right as well.

'Processing paused' is correct, because you have the database open. The speed depends mainly on your CPU, RAM and harddisk, but Excel is slow in that case.

I have got a problem. Maybe someone can help. If i try to scan the wares, OCR windows stays black, this happens if i try detail or update scan. nothing happens. I use TCR 1.55.1, Windows 10, Office 2013. OCR is in the right Folder and i use the latest version 0.7. Any Idears??

Please activate the OCR process window at the Options panel. There could be an error message. Check the FAQs for more details on errors with EliteOCR.

 

[Lavaeolus]

Hi,
First: Thanks for the great tool.
I have a suggestion. Optional to using Elite OCR to import prices, you could import the CSV files created by Elite Market Connector. Those are local files for a single station, created if you click update or use a hotkey for EDMC, while docked at the station. EDMC uses the mobile API from FD to acquire the data, so you don't get information not approved by FD. If you implement EDMC data import as an alternative dialog to the Elite OCR dialog, the only difference would be that you click once to import data, instead of scrolling through ED market page by page, making screenshots.
If you like, I can help with the implementation or just give me a push in the right direction. Transfering data from one application to another is my daily job
I could also help with a migration to SQLite, which I think I read about in one of your posts, though the only advantage for this, that comes to my mind, is an external access to TCE data from other tools. If you keep using Excel things would only get a little bit more difficult, although the integration of SQLite with .NET is quite good.

 

[bbc743]

Thank you for advice, there was an error message. Market screen window needs 1065 px, 732 shown. So i closed two TCM windows headlines completely, an than it worked.
Thank you for this great tool.

 

[eventure]

Hi,
First: Thanks for the great tool.
I have a suggestion. Optional to using Elite OCR to import prices, you could import the CSV files created by Elite Market Connector. Those are local files for a single station, created if you click update or use a hotkey for EDMC, while docked at the station. EDMC uses the mobile API from FD to acquire the data, so you don't get information not approved by FD. If you implement EDMC data import as an alternative dialog to the Elite OCR dialog, the only difference would be that you click once to import data, instead of scrolling through ED market page by page, making screenshots.
If you like, I can help with the implementation or just give me a push in the right direction. Transfering data from one application to another is my daily job
I could also help with a migration to SQLite, which I think I read about in one of your posts, though the only advantage for this, that comes to my mind, is an external access to TCE data from other tools. If you keep using Excel things would only get a little bit more difficult, although the integration of SQLite with .NET is quite good.

Hi too,

this version will get only bugfixes and database adjustsments on upcomming ED updates.
It will be dropped, when the new .net version reaches release state and the new version will have many, many improvements over the old one in different area's. This includes also the commodities.

A separate announcement will follow as soon as it enters beta state.

 

[Trekari]

Hi too,

this version will get only bugfixes and database adjustsments on upcomming ED updates.
It will be dropped, when the new .net version reaches release state and the new version will have many, many improvements over the old one in different area's. This includes also the commodities.

A seperate announcement will follow as soon as it enters beta state.

Eventure,

As a 21:9 monitor user, I cannot express how hopeful I am that your new project doesn't require Elite OCR. TCE is literally, EXACTLY what I'm looking for, except for that pesky OCR.

I very much hope that you can use EDMC's .csv files! (or even an EDDN option!)

Thank you for your efforts. I can't wait for TCE 2.0, it will fix so much of what's wrong with trading in this game!

 

[Lavaeolus]

Freut mich, dass du an einer neuen Version arbeitest (deine Programmkommentare sind auf deutsch ).
Maybe I can be of assistance with the new .NET Version. Are you using C#? If you have questions about .NET I'll gladly try to help. In C# I would prefer SQLite over Access, because its free and really easy to use. I guess I could help with the database pretty much. I really hope you totally succeed with your new tool (I know I'm being selfish here).

 

[Trekari]

For #%*('s sake moderators, is it too much to ask that you actually allow me to encourage the developer of TCE and say I'm excited for version 2.0????!?!?! God forbid someone with less than 3 posts actually gets to say something.

 

[Maedhros]

Hi Eventure

Hi and welcome back.

I preferred using MS Access again, because I know, how to work with. But TCE performing all operations with the databases on SQL commands structure, so Access itself is not required to be installed for using the .net version.
I didn't ever worked with the SQL/SQLite app, I have no experience with it and can't estimate the way, I have to go to transfer the databases. I am working with .net for the first time and decided not to change other parts for the moment.
Perhaps, you can tell me, what improvements we have with a change to SQLite databases?

I'm afraid I'm not that much of an expert that I can advise on SQLite - the only reason I mentioned it was that I am more familiar with MS Access and if I had the choice would prefer to keep using it!

I checked the routines twice, but can only think of an database problem. I would like to investigate deeper, so could you provide me your database (TCE.mdb)?
If you repeated the steps above at the same station, is the problem reproduceable?

I have provided a link to my db as requested. It appears to be an intermittent error - sometimes it happens other times it doesn't. Upon further investigation it also happens occasionally with Indium and Tantalum as well but not as frequently as with Indite and Painite.

What data is not up-to-date and when the Cartography panel is missing an update? Could you give me more details on that, thanks.

Essentially the number of stations within a system. When adding a new station, once added it updates the Star System Summary almost immediately but not the Cartography panel

Thanks for reporting. This issue happens only with the compact UI. Will be fixed with the next update.

Found the issue and will be fixed with the next update.

Thanks for all screens. The date format will all the same with the next update. It now depends on your local windows date format setting.

Thanks

 

[Conehead]

@Eventure:
related to question about using Access or SQLite (or SQL Express) I have to copy a former poster. Its quite easy to implement, and quite easy to install. The programming interface should be more or less extactly the same for .NET.
Also you can use command line SQL commands to check your SQL commands more comfortably, but this is more for development and not for end-user.

One thing I would like to mention (as a dsign hint for next version): I found some duplicate entries in my "Stations" table. I strongly suggest you to define some unique indexes on certain columns. This would prevent anyboidy to create entries twice (ans therefore data inconsistencies) and would also increase read access when having lots of data (which is less important for standard user, I guess).

 

[Lavaeolus]

@Eventure:
On the decision of using SQLite vs MS Access I found a very good reason for using SQLite. SQLite also runs on Linux and MAC OSX. So depending on the Development Tools you are using, there is a chance that TCE 2.0 runs on other operating systems. I doubt that MS Access will run on non windows systems even if MONO (open source .NET alternative) is used.

 

[Abil Midena]

Hi Eventure,

Small bug with 1.55 I think. Using classic UI, when the star system summary panel is open and set to minimize, and you press the button to hide TCE, TCE hides as expected. But when you unhide TCE, the star system panel is no longer open/minimized. You have to go to Options/panel and click on 'show' for star system panel to get it back, then it works fine. Hope that makes sense.

Abil

 

[Maedhros]

TCE problem following Horizons release and 32bit client update

Hi Eventure

Following all the excitment of the Horizons release last night and after many happy hours testing out my SRV etc I have returned to the main game to earn a few more credits.

I noticed that prior to the release of Horizons FD renamed the main client to '32bit' which forced me into doing a reinstall.

I have noticed this morning however that TCE is no longer picking up the ED location and is sitting there asking me to restart ED. I though of VerboseLogging immediately and checked the AppConfig.xml file straightaway. Although I have VerboseLogging set to'1' TCE is still not picking up my location even after numerous restarts of ED & TCE - have you any ideas what the problem may be?

Maedhros

 

[eventure]

@Eventure:
On the decision of using SQLite vs MS Access I found a very good reason for using SQLite. SQLite also runs on Linux and MAC OSX. So depending on the Development Tools you are using, there is a chance that TCE 2.0 runs on other operating systems. I doubt that MS Access will run on non windows systems even if MONO (open source .NET alternative) is used.

MS Access is not required to be installed to use .mdb files. Only, if you want to edit them manually.

Hi Eventure,

Small bug with 1.55 I think. Using classic UI, when the star system summary panel is open and set to minimize, and you press the button to hide TCE, TCE hides as expected. But when you unhide TCE, the star system panel is no longer open/minimized. You have to go to Options/panel and click on 'show' for star system panel to get it back, then it works fine. Hope that makes sense.

Abil

Thanks for reporting. It also affects the Credit panel. Both will be fixed with the next update.

Hi Eventure

Following all the excitment of the Horizons release last night and after many happy hours testing out my SRV etc I have returned to the main game to earn a few more credits.

I noticed that prior to the release of Horizons FD renamed the main client to '32bit' which forced me into doing a reinstall.

I have noticed this morning however that TCE is no longer picking up the ED location and is sitting there asking me to restart ED. I though of VerboseLogging immediately and checked the AppConfig.xml file straightaway. Although I have VerboseLogging set to'1' TCE is still not picking up my location even after numerous restarts of ED & TCE - have you any ideas what the problem may be?

Maedhros

Restart the TCE setup and change the path setting for the netlog and appconfig file to the correct location, otherwise use the auto-detect button.
I updated too and my path has changed also from D:\Elite Dangerous\Products\FORC-FDEV-D-1001 to D:\Elite Dangerous\Products\FORC-FDEV-D-1000.

 

[Eewec]

Hi Eventure,

Just a quick question more than anything.

Not sure if anyone has seen Seeebek in game or elsewhere, but they've not been on the forums since 1st of August. Being that they are the developer of EliteOCR which you use and rely on heavily, any ideas about what you're going to do when 1.5/Horizons comes out?

 

[Lavaeolus]

To use .mdb files you don't need MS Access but using them depends on the MS JET database engine which is not a part of the .NET framework itself, but a windows component. I researched a bit on this point and it should be possible to use MS JET database engine with MONO on linux (and possible on MAC OSX).

 

[Cmdr Bupu]

Has anyone had a chance to test tce with horizons properly not just installing it and getting it to work but also with new commodities panels which now show more info;.

 

[eventure]

Hi Eventure,

Just a quick question more than anything.

Not sure if anyone has seen Seeebek in game or elsewhere, but they've not been on the forums since 1st of August. Being that they are the developer of EliteOCR which you use and rely on heavily, any ideas about what you're going to do when 1.5/Horizons comes out?

It should continue to work, when the new commodities are added to EliteOCR.
BTW: Are there any aimed release date of Horizons?

To use .mdb files you don't need MS Access but using them depends on the MS JET database engine which is not a part of the .NET framework itself, but a windows component. I researched a bit on this point and it should be possible to use MS JET database engine with MONO on linux (and possible on MAC OSX).

Thanks for your research. SQLite is not wiped from the table, but will perhaps come to a later date.

 

[Cmdr Bupu]

new commodities are not the problem its the extra tags and info on the commodity panel I was wondering if ocr could deal with these.
and I just cant seem to get tce working properly with horizons it seems to pick up the original log files and will not update for horizons.. tried changing to horizons folders eg. D:\EDLaunch\Products\PUBLIC_TEST_SERVER_64\Logs but then it cant find files...it needs.
cmdr Bupu

 

[Arnak]

Hi,

Just a very quick question :-

Which directory does the Elite OCR look to for scanning the commodity prices please?

Thanks,

 

[eventure]

new commodities are not the problem its the extra tags and info on the commodity panel I was wondering if ocr could deal with these.
and I just cant seem to get tce working properly with horizons it seems to pick up the original log files and will not update for horizons.. tried changing to horizons folders eg. D:\EDLaunch\Products\PUBLIC_TEST_SERVER_64\Logs but then it cant find files...it needs.
cmdr Bupu

Yes, TCE is not compatible with the Horizons beta, because the NetLog filename differs slightly from the standard version and the state info ("Cruising") within the netLog file differs also, now named "Supercruise". Fixed that problems but checking after upgrading, if EliteOCR makes problems.

Hi,

Just a very quick question :-

Which directory does the Elite OCR look to for scanning the commodity prices please?

Thanks,

It looks into the OCR_BMP folder after a file called screenshot.bmp.