Abandoned [RELEASE] Trade Computer Extension

BennyBoyW · Apr 25, 2015

I can confirm I get no "unblock" button in properties for TCE.xlsm. Not sure if that's because I'm on Win 7 ?
Anyway - still working spot on on one monitor. I'll have to go back to 3 soon though as my eyes are staring to go funny looking at TCE in 3840*2160 resolution (I usually have it running on a 1920*1080 monitor at the side)

Kellach · Apr 25, 2015

Bragolatch said:
Not sure how relevant it is if at all but I'm curious to know.
Have you unbloked TCE.xlsm ???
(right click - Properties)

I do this for both TCE.xlsm and TCE Setup.xlsm
I seem to have A LOT less problems since I've been doing this automatically with every update !
Even seem to bypass UAC.
I've tuned UAC back on to full as a test a few updates back and completely forgot about it,
or that it was supposed to give me problems lol

Tried this out and found the same, go into the file properties for TCE.xlsm and TCE Setup.xlsm, click the unblock button and I was able to turn UAC back to fully on.

Edit - Ignore me, being a muppet - forgot to restart the computer! Wasn't able to turn UAC fully on again.

BennyBoyW · Apr 25, 2015

I have had a very frustrating afternoon with TCE.
Still on one monitor.
It is freezing almost all of the time requiring me to open Task Manager and to sometimes kill the TCE task.
Screen is going weird either black or white boxes on screen whenever I scan commodity and then save.
EliteOCR started crashing with an unexpected error for a while till I restarted TCE.
Entering system notes is really buggy today too - you start entering your system note and then the "Processing" message appears and will not go away till you kill the task.
I cannot see anything that is causing this apart from I have been playing for about 4 hours - could it be that a reboot would sort it out ?
Very odd !

Ben

eventure · Apr 25, 2015

BennyBoyW said:
I have had a very frustrating afternoon with TCE.
Still on one monitor.
It is freezing almost all of the time requiring me to open Task Manager and to sometimes kill the TCE task.
Screen is going weird either black or white boxes on screen whenever I scan commodity and then save.
EliteOCR started crashing with an unexpected error for a while till I restarted TCE.
Entering system notes is really buggy today too - you start entering your system note and then the "Processing" message appears and will not go away till you kill the task.
I cannot see anything that is causing this apart from I have been playing for about 4 hours - could it be that a reboot would sort it out ?
Very odd !

Ben

Perhaps this could help:

Update (V1.39a) released:

Full-Version 1.39 installer: http://bit.ly/1yHRI4w
Full-Version 1.39 non-installer: http://bit.ly/1OZcmAU
Update 1.39a: http://bit.ly/1DKdErw (Full-Version V1.39 required)

Changelog:
- Added Trade Station Notes accessable through the Station Database or Trade panel. You can switch between SERVICE and NOTES.
- Reworked the detection routine across TCE, so it should no longer freeze.
- Added star system names to the searchbox at Position and Destination panel.
- Added sorting to Trade panel for all headers (except route plotting).
- Code optimizations and bugfixes to Trade Station Database panel.
- Bugfix in Trade Scout panel clicking search while route is active
- Bugfix in start sequence if Netlog holds more than 1000 system events
- Adjusted Tooltips for the Compact UI
- Price notes at the Displays are updating now, if rescanned, when in Trade Lock.
- Overall visual panel adjustments for better readability.
- Small UI fixes in some panels.
- Bugfix in Hotkey routine, in case of ESC key breaks TCE. ESC key also removed from Hotkey selection.

BennyBoyW · Apr 25, 2015

Oh you are fantastic ! It will be tomorrow morning when I get chance to try this but I am excited already

Is this likely to work better with 3 monitors or is that for a future release ?

eventure · Apr 25, 2015

BennyBoyW said:
Oh you are fantastic ! It will be tomorrow morning when I get chance to try this but I am excited already

Is this likely to work better with 3 monitors or is that for a future release ?

No changes in your case, sadly. I've spent 3 hrs today to look after a workaround, but not successful. So i have to postpone it. Sry.

Bragolatch · Apr 25, 2015

Eventure said:
Perhaps this could help:

Update (V1.39a) released:

Full-Version 1.39 installer: http://bit.ly/1yHRI4w

Full-Version 1.39 non-installer: http://bit.ly/1OZcmAU

Update 1.39a: http://bit.ly/1DKdErw (Full-Version V1.39 required)

Changelog:
- Added Trade Station Notes accessable through the Station Database or Trade panel. You can switch between SERVICE and NOTES.
- Reworked the detection routine across TCE, so it should no longer freeze.
- Added star system names to the searchbox at Position and Destination panel.
- Added sorting to Trade panel for all headers (except route plotting).
- Code optimizations and bugfixes to Trade Station Database panel.
- Bugfix in Trade Scout panel clicking search while route is active
- Bugfix in start sequence if Netlog holds more than 1000 system events
- Adjusted Tooltips for the Compact UI
- Price notes at the Displays are updating now, if rescanned, when in Trade Lock.
- Overall visually panel adjustments for better readability.
- Small UI fixes in some panels.
- Bugfix in Hotkey routine, in case of ESC key breaks TCE. ESC key also removed from Hotkey selection.

I'm Impressed all over again ! Just started, not had time to test it much yet,
but the TRADE panel station notes and sorting is just amazing !!!

RobH · Apr 25, 2015

Okay, then i found the problem, the text is trucated, because of the slashes. I changed the format to ".", so it will fit. Releasing tomorrow an update.

Yep, I can now see my dates

. Thanks Eventure

.

Rob

Bragolatch · Apr 25, 2015

Hide Hotkey not working

Sorry to report that the Hide Hotkey doesn't work anymore,
I can set it in TCE Setup.xlsm as usual but pressing it "in game" does nothing.
I have tried to set it to F4 again and to change it to 0 with the same result.

Actually, typing this post, I just found out that it works when the game is minimized !
I could not type the 0 in the line above until I had completely Quit TCE.

When I tried to type 0, TCE was hidden and if I pressed 0 again I'd get a boing sound.
to get TCE to show again I have to click on my desktop first,
Then 0 will unhide TCE, pressing it again will Hide it, and pressing it a third time
will give the boing sound until I click the desktop again ...

So I tried that again with TCE on top of ED and nothing.
It only works if ED is not running or is minimized.

also,

Tooltips are not longer truncated !

Just a matter of taste really, but don't you think they might look just a bit better if they were centered horizontally in their box ?

eventure · Apr 25, 2015

Bragolatch said:
Sorry to report that the Hide Hotkey doesn't work anymore,
I can set it in TCE Setup.xlsm as usual but pressing it "in game" does nothing.
I have tried to set it to F4 again and to change it to 0 with the same result.

Actually, typing this post, I just found out that it works when the game is minimized !
I could not type the 0 in the line above until I had completely Quit TCE.

When I tried to type 0, TCE was hidden and if I pressed 0 again I'd get a boing sound.
to get TCE to show again I have to click on my desktop first,
Then 0 will unhide TCE, pressing it again will Hide it, and pressing it a third time
will give the boing sound until I click the desktop again ...

So I tried that again with TCE on top of ED and nothing.
It only works if ED is not running or is minimized.

also,

Tooltips are not longer truncated !
but don't you think they might look just a bit better if they were centered horizontally in their box ?

Please check your TCE.ini. If there is the entry Menu_Mode= without CLASSIC or COMPACT, please add it. There is a bug at the setup, not saving the mode. Have corrected and included it into the V1.39a update. Please reload, if you got this issue.

Bragolatch · Apr 25, 2015

Eventure said:
Please check your TCE.ini. If there is the entry Menu_Mode= without CLASSIC or COMPACT, please add it. There is a bug at the setup, not saving the mode. Have corrected and included it into the V1.39a update. Please reload, if you got this issue.

This is a new problem with V1.39a, never had it before and I know my .ini was fine before I updated to v1.39a.

But yeah I checked and COMPACT was missing.

I Quit TCE, added COMPACT and re-started it but but it does not fix the Hide/UnHide problem !
The only thing that changes is that there is no boing sound anymore.
but everything else is exactly the same !!!

After further testing I figured out that this is caused by another program that was running in the background.
It is not TCE's problem at all !!!
I'm very sorry to have wasted you time with that Eventure.
I should have done more testing before reporting it as a bug !
This program has never cause any problems before so I did not expect it !

Bragolatch · Apr 26, 2015

A couple of things I notices playing around with Position and Destination:

I do not know when (what version) this started, I know it use to update but I haven't used it in a while.
Choosing a SELECTED POSITION opens up the TRADE PANEL with the proper position selected,
but it does not update the POSITION panel anymore.

There might be a perfectly good reason for this but I have not figured it out yet !
In the previous screen shot we can see IMPERIAL SLAVES suggested by TRADE ADVISOR,
also appear in the IMPORTS list of the destination station, as is proper.

But sometimes it does not like GALLIUM in this next screen shot :

Am I missing something obvious ???

RichardT · Apr 26, 2015

But sometimes it does not like GALLIUM in this next screen shot :

View attachment 31809

Am I missing something obvious ???[/QUOTE]

Not 100% sure on this but it may be possible that you scanned the prices whilst you had Gallium in your cargo hold whereas the station has no interest in Gallium either buying or selling.

Bragolatch · Apr 26, 2015

RichardT said:
But sometimes it does not like GALLIUM in this next screen shot :

View attachment 31809

Am I missing something obvious ???

Not 100% sure on this but it may be possible that you scanned the prices whilst you had Gallium in your cargo hold whereas the station has no interest in Gallium either buying or selling.[/QUOTE]

I was pretty sure that was not the case but I couldn't help myself,
I had to go back and make sure ! They are definitely buying the stuff !

I have to log off for now but when I come back I will re-scan the commodities,
jump to another station and check the Trade panel again before I come back here to report.

Sniffy75 · Apr 26, 2015

Giving this a go but am I correct in my growing belief that you have to manually enter in prices for each type of station/outpost you visit before this starts getting useful?
I had hoped that I could user the EliteOCR functionality to automatically scan in the current prices, but it doesn't seem to work no matter how much I fiddle with it. (it appears to capture the screen but no prices are added).

Am I missing something or just on a whole different level of lazy?

eventure · Apr 26, 2015

Bragolatch said:
Not 100% sure on this but it may be possible that you scanned the prices whilst you had Gallium in your cargo hold whereas the station has no interest in Gallium either buying or selling.

I was pretty sure that was not the case but I couldn't help myself,
I had to go back and make sure ! They are definitely buying the stuff !

View attachment 31830

I have to log off for now but when I come back I will re-scan the commodities,
jump to another station and check the Trade panel again before I come back here to report.

RichardT said:
But sometimes it does not like GALLIUM in this next screen shot :

View attachment 31809

Am I missing something obvious ???

As you can see, galium sell price is below the average, so it is not a commoditiy, that the station really needs, but your buy price is so low, that you can make a deal with it. Import lists all commodities, that sell prices are above the average, exports are all below average. I can change the list content, so there are all commodities listed, that can be buyed or sold.

Sniffy75 said:
Giving this a go but am I correct in my growing belief that you have to manually enter in prices for each type of station/outpost you visit before this starts getting useful?
I had hoped that I could user the EliteOCR functionality to automatically scan in the current prices, but it doesn't seem to work no matter how much I fiddle with it. (it appears to capture the screen but no prices are added).

Am I missing something or just on a whole different level of lazy?

If you dont met the requirements for EliteOCR, you can enter all prices manually. The minimum game resolution for it is 1650 x 1050. Please activate the OCR Debug window (at the Options panel), to see any error message EliteOCR produce. Post it here, so we can help you.

BennyBoyW · Apr 26, 2015

Eventure said:
No changes in your case, sadly. I've spent 3 hrs today to look after a workaround, but not successful. So i have to postpone it. Sry.

No Need to apologise at all - thank you for looking at a workaround.
Also, thank you for the new update - I am about to install

Ben

Sniffy75 · Apr 26, 2015

Yeah, no error message, I had been fiddling with the FOV settings so that may have been part of the original issue but now it just sits there with "please wait" highlighted in the commodity panel and the debug screen just sitting there looking like this:

Sniffy75 · Apr 26, 2015

Ok, here's an update.
I just noticed an error sitting behind things which pops up if I close the command window or if I run the scan without the debug mode.
Maybe this will shed light on things.

Distance · Apr 26, 2015

Sniffy75 said:
Yeah, no error message, I had been fiddling with the FOV settings so that may have been part of the original issue but now it just sits there with "please wait" highlighted in the commodity panel and the debug screen just sitting there looking like this:
View attachment 31844

You are clicking save after you've scanned the commodities?

Did you read the detailed guide linked on the first post?