Rev-Enging Mission Boards

[Factabulous]

EDIT: Did anyone take notes or have a quick summary of things?

I don't think so .. mine would be:

• Dom covered mission scripting with (impossible to read) examples
• Dom covered mission generation (as above)
• Quick walkthrough of mission wrinkles in Patch 8 - retrieve items from NPCs
• Zac showed emote examples (+ there will be hotkeys for emotes)
• Nice demo of m/s interiors - worth a look not just an outpost dumped into a m/s
• Good views from the windows in the m/s
• Highlight - there are working escape pods - so if you get stuck on a m/s on foot you can escape to civilisation!

 

[Dominic Corner]

Worth watching the first part of today stream with Dom - he talks about where missions are created in EDH/EDO. Not sure it works the way he says ...

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(basically it uses the closest 20 Ly for missions + one of the yellow blocks of systems + Colonia, and in EDO one of the neighbouring yellows (shown in orange) and slightly larger.)
Colonia is top left, I missed it at first

From 27:55

Source: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1181123113

Hi there,

Absolutely works the way I say it does... But I have run a test thorughout today and there does indeed appear to be a subtle bug causing the remote system collections (yellow and orange) to ocassionally get stuck in a persistent unready state that looks like it can build up over time and result in the issue you and others have mentioned where longer distance missions are more prevalent immediately after reboot and fade away over time.

For completeness, here's what I said about how these work:

In Beyond:
When generating a mission, the systems the template is allowed to consider are :-

• 12ly centred around Colonia system (always, in case this is a super long range mission - pale green in top left of image)
• 20ly around the system we're generating missions for (always - green in image)
• 12ly randomly selected in-bubble system collection (One of several that we rotate periodically - yellow in image)

This gives us a bit of variety and allows longer range in-bubble missions a target while maintaining that we always have Colonia available for super long range and the immediuate area for normal range missions.

In Odyssey
When generating a mission, the systems the template is allowed to consider are :-

• 12ly centred around Colonia system (always, in case this is a super long range mission - pale green in top left of image)
• 20ly around the system we're generating missions for (always - green in image)
• 20ly randomly selected in-bubble system collection (One of several that we rotate periodically - yellow in image)
• 20ly in-bubble system collection (Any of our randomly projected collections that overlap with the local area - orange in image)

Thanks,
Dom

 

[Factabulous]

Absolutely works the way I say it does... But I have run a test thorughout today and there does indeed appear to be a subtle bug causing the remote system collections (yellow and orange) to ocassionally get stuck in a persistent unready state that looks like it can build up over time and result in the issue you and others have mentioned where longer distance missions are more prevalent immediately after reboot and fade away over time.

Thanks Dom! Sounds like what we are seeing

 

[Factabulous]

Just an FYI - I asked Sally if we could expect a fix for the issue Dom spotted ^^^ and it's planned for the next update (presumably Patch 9)

Can confirm we have this logged and penned in as part of the next update, but I will absolutely keep you posted on it seeing as it was specifically called out.

 

[Jmanis]

Just an FYI - I asked Sally if we could expect a fix for the issue Dom spotted ^^^ and it's planned for the next update (presumably Patch 9)

Yeah, I did notice this post specifically referencing "Missions being weird" as well

 

[Factabulous]

If they do change this - it could be quite major? Presumably if missions can come from the locations Dom talks about more regularly the boards will be far less grindable / stackable / useful for the BGS. Maybe one of the larger changes we've seen. Could be interesting

 

[Ian Doncaster]

If they do change this - it could be quite major? Presumably if missions can come from the locations Dom talks about more regularly the boards will be far less grindable / stackable / useful for the BGS. Maybe one of the larger changes we've seen. Could be interesting

Yes, could make quite a big difference. I would expect a few "hey, I liked that bug, put it back!" calls.

It'll be interesting for the Colonia Tourism stations, too.

 

[Jmanis]

If they do change this - it could be quite major? Presumably if missions can come from the locations Dom talks about more regularly the boards will be far less grindable / stackable / useful for the BGS. Maybe one of the larger changes we've seen. Could be interesting

One can only hope (ok, that emoji was way more extreme than was needed... I was more going for something like this... )

I do wonder though... if there's issues gumming up the way these mission types are generated... are the same issues gumming up other mission types which will also get resolved? Like, situations say like with Robigo/Sothis tourism runs... there's absolutely other plausible tourism runs within range; but they simply do not generate... or how when you get surface installation scan/powerplant destruction missions, they always target the same installations (mostly) regardless of faction ownership, and ignore a host of others?

 

[Factabulous]

I wonder if they've rolled out Dom's changes to the mission generation ... I wouldn't expect missions like this so long after the restart?

or maybe I just don't usually pay attention

 

[Factabulous]

I saw more last night in meene, plus this report https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/on-foot-assassination-205-ly-away-seen-this-before.595367/ . Though maybe still leftovers from the restart?

 

[Ian Doncaster]

I meant to check on Wednesday and forgot...

Still, it's Friday evening and there's still missions back to the bubble at this tourist settlement, so it looks fixed to me.

 

[FrogsFriend]

Friday night and a few long range delivery missions on the board at this Bubble station...

Spoiler: Long range missions

 

[rOmiLaYu]

It's pretty screwy, but with FD's yolobinfire approach to the economy, whatever goes I guess.

 

[Thwarptide]

Technically, the tourist missions out of Robigo aren’t all to Sothis. Its the predominant mission, yes. But there are enough long distance missions there to soothe someones (NOT ME) itch for very long endurance routes.
The problem is that Robigo Mines offers medium landing facilities. Luxury liners are not an option there. Its 500 ly from the bubble so nobody is going to run out there just to grab those.
In my opinion Robigo has become a sort of Mecca for those who need a big cash fix; as such tons of noobs have turned it AND the 3 other systems into FC Parking lot’s. It has its nitch.
But plenty of newish players think getting an FC early in their game career is the key to their success. ”Thats cool, I godda have that! “
But they did nothing more than outfit a standard Dolphin or a Python, go to Robigo, grind out $5 billion only to realize the expensive maintainance costs will keep them there, slaves to a flying mega-brick that to them serves no purpose other than the coolness factor.
The end result being, a few get disgruntled and quit playing altogether, you’ll see a few FCs getting decommissioned out there.

 

[Jmanis]

Incidentally, it's 0425 Sunday 9th Jan, and I just noticed that all the wing delivery missions on the board are to destinations up to 200ly away.

Everything else is within 20Ly