crime and punishment lock would be better, I think. Rack up bounties in high security systems, that system thrn applies a permit lock to your commander. Security level used to determine at what level the lockout happens. Ex: never for anarchy and low security. One level for med security, another for high, and even more strict for systems originally with a permit lock to access in the first place.
Reverse permit lock for starter systems
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I agree with that, even though I would like to visit my starter system sometime, but for the greater good I would give up on that.
Just locking the starter system might be a bit to limited.
What about locking 2 or 3 systems that are close together, so the fledglings can also experiment with system jumping and inter stellar trade in relative safety.
That might be a better approach.
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All of the hysteria over noobs losing a ship they can earn back with less than thirty minutes of gameplay is a kind of mystery to me. Also, I think locking Eravate is a bad idea as it's become such a cool battleground for do-gooders and villains that I'd hate to see that disappear.
Yup. That too. It's great for everyone.
Permit locking these systems is stupid. As people mentioned above, the devs already programmed a guaranteed emotional safe space into the game. If open isn't your cup of tea, solo stares you in the face every time you log in.
And there's no way I'd be ok with losing ED gold such as this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tpV12mfNCC0
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Minonian
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Combine this, with a weapon lock instead of complete player lockout and we have a good resolution. As your player offense bounty climbs your weapons becoming useless against players, because you cannot fire to another player. Based on the system security level clearance. Starting from the highest toward the lowest. If you have been really naughty, you cannot fire to players at all. (except if you fired upon it first) This effectively resolves the griefing and excessive ganking problem. And with this we also have the resolution to the suicide winder problem inside of stations. Player - player spawn invulnerability, inside the station. you can't harm other players or be harmed by them in there.
Footnote; I see Our salt reapers want to find a way to turn this situation into their benefit.
My answer? No complete lockout, except notorius griefers from beginner systems. But weapons lockdown. No ban from open, except if you really had this coming.
In short? You can drop by, but you can't gank.
Why is that how they doing? If they have a problem with it than it's a good idea. So they turn it upside down, and going against it.
How this works out?
Simple! If the nevbies left entirely clueless and coming out without any experience and contact with other players, with better ships? The amount of salt what griefers can reap? Tempting...
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OP the gentleman above solved the "problem".
While I understand the deliberation, reasoning behind it, I think its not what we wanted Elite D. in OPEN to be like.
Reservation(s), frontiers, PvP play grounds, are fundamentally against its underlying concept (OPEN play).
Why not scatter Noobs all over across the bubble? There is no need for a cradle in this cutthroat galaxy. C&P is needed.
Ultimately you can't stop griefing in multiplayer games.
Cheers
Minonian
Banned
That's the thing system lockout resolves nothing, just looks alike they did something. And to this we can add up EVE's starter system defense resolution. It's a good idea to give nevbs the necessary space and chance to grow up and gain experience, but if you close out players, and all kind of conflict that's turns the whole thing around and what you get instead is a bunch of rich kids with dadd's sports car.
The outcome? I don't think too much brain is necessary to find out.
No... Youngsters must be supported and protected, but you cannot hold them in golden cage, and close out in the name of protection, of every bad thing and challenge. In this case they will becoming unviable, so they can "introduced" to the facts of hard reality...
What can be the only plausible player group whom can benefit from this?
Tough love eh? I say instead the twisted mirror give em a chance to see how the things really are?
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Nobody benefits from locking Eravate. No player groups, no individuals. It's just a bad idea for all concerned.
Even simpler: within starting systems, don't allow new players to instance with experienced players UNLESS they're friends.
Minonian
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Not for one single place, but if this becoming the standard?
I always tough although a bit paradoxical the reason eve became the griefers game because of the beginners protection system, (yup i played with it but not too long) The reason of this?
you are protected in there, so we don't have to concern ourselves anymore. And the same goes to ED's solo & group system alongside with the blocking feature.
This resolutions are resolving nothing just giving the false feeling of safety, but beneath the surface? The trouble is there. What we need is a proper c&p system alongside with the current privacy options, because group and solo play alongside with the player blocking feature, are nothing more, but tools to choose the people whom you playing and talking with. They does not and cannot substitute a proper c&p / system, alongside with in game admins + mods.
Just as i said? No lockdown, but no fire zone. nevbs need that anyway, at least in the starting systems.
However? The current situation in eravate must be dealt with. What we have there is a hot spot. (flame topic if you like) Deal with it accordingly.
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Minonian
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Not good enough. ED is supposed to be a multi player game, if you forced into solo, because of a bunch of violent idiot? Than you don't learn the most important part of it, the best part the time what we can spend together is lost.
And don't give me this Nomen est omen trash! Dumb and angeringly tiresome. Reason? See above.
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Minonian
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Well... It's works out if your ideal world is filled of paranoia. For my part, i'd rather rid o it this kind of problems instead of learn to live with it, because even if you can get used to it?
A nightmare!
Edit; Not to mention if you must be this paranoid about everyone else? that too destroys the community experience. Really... If Open is like this? better off alone so you can spare yourself a lot of trouble, and paranoid tension.
A nightmare!
Edit; Not to mention if you must be this paranoid about everyone else? that too destroys the community experience. Really... If Open is like this? better off alone so you can spare yourself a lot of trouble, and paranoid tension.
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I agree. I often fly to the starter systems to see if anyone needs any advice or help. I would like to keep doing that.
Minonian
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Which nature darker side always kept on check in society so we are not, and cannot be atomised into individuals, but can work and live together without having too much fear and distrust against each others.
Gaming community, and internet? I can't see why it must be dealt differently, if we want a "liveable" cyberspace.
Minonian
Banned
The "fighters" usually do run away from combat what they started, if the opposition proves too strong and moaning & threatening shouting cheater when someone whom not in the mood to play with them, if they attack.
Sometimes i think this also part of their sickly game.
Anyway, good luck, with tossing them around!
because the thing is despite to their big mouth, and threatening nature? They are not much better, ingame than in forum.
But for my part right now i taking a nap in ED. after getting my first 2 Elite rank. That was some heavy grinding. I got enough for a while And only log in enough time to do some PP for the equipment, but probably before the arrival of 2.4 come back to the business. And start to take seriously to get my final Elite rank.
Sometimes i think this also part of their sickly game.
Anyway, good luck, with tossing them around!
because the thing is despite to their big mouth, and threatening nature? They are not much better, ingame than in forum. But for my part right now i taking a nap in ED. after getting my first 2 Elite rank. That was some heavy grinding. I got enough for a while And only log in enough time to do some PP for the equipment, but probably before the arrival of 2.4 come back to the business. And start to take seriously to get my final Elite rank.
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You may be giving this too much thought. What mode do you usually play in?