Safe Harbour Systems List

for sure take canopus down from the list: it's an poor anarchy system, and you will get attacked by npc pirates every time. at the very moment exphiay is ruled by pirates, too. better outfitting and shipyard in exphiay in the smaller dock btw.

exphiay and canopus do have a shipyard, so does 17 draconis. new yembo doesn't. how about sothis?


Have you been interdicted by pirates in Canopus/Exphiay? I was under the impression that it was a low pop slavers system with almost no traffic to speak of. Most of the shipyards in the outer systems have almost no stock parts for outfitting so buying ships there would be only be useful if you needed a shuttle so desperately that you were willing to slog it 12 Ly at a time back to the bubble.
 
a) well, i for some reason wanted to get allied with exphiay's local faction, so i played some days there, and yes, i was more than once interdicted in canopus. exphiay was safe, than. but it has been some time, since i was there.

b) shipyards: i store my explorer-ship in a shipyard on the edge of the bubble. i come there with my maxed out dbs, jump in, fly out, and i will change ships again after return. so you only have to fly one time with an rusty adder ;-)

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c) shipyard in exphiay: exphiay is a rich system for lore reasons. the smaller dock has outfitting above average. so, yes, you can get your class 2 lasers and your a5 thrusters there
 
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a) well, i for some reason wanted to get allied with exphiay's local faction, so i played some days there, and yes, i was more than once interdicted in canopus. exphiay was safe, than. but it has been some time, since i was there.

b) shipyards: i store my explorer-ship in a shipyard on the edge of the bubble. i come there with my maxed out dbs, jump in, fly out, and i will change ships again after return. so you only have to fly one time with an rusty adder ;-)


Ok thanks Goemon. I will update the list.
 
My method always has been:
- Get to 500Ly outside the bubble.
- Switch to allegiance view in galmap (if you want to support a faction, or gain rep or such stuff, pick the area where the faction you like is represented)
- When you have the area, switch to economy type. (if you have a preference)
- By now you should have a couple of candidates. Check the systems for stations close to the main star
- Say a prayer
 
Personally I start my exploring by picking a system with outpost or station on the edge of populated space. E.g. Guan Zana.
One with an outfitters is preferred :)

Sadly this does not stop NPC, as when I left this system my Asp was being chased by Python. But planning where you come back before you go is a good idea.
 
All of the systems that were used in the Buckyball Run 7 race (map link) are on the edge of inhabited space, outside of the powerplay areas and contain stations, not just outposts.

When I returned from my last long range expedition I approached Chaga from the direction of The Coalsack and it was the very first inhabited system that I jumped to. Both Biggle City and Bierce Port are industrial stations with well stocked outfitters. There had only been one other CMDR visiting the system in previous 24 hours according to the station news.

NPC pirate activity in Chaga was light, I do remember though that during the race we did have problems with NPC interdictions in one or two of the systems so perhaps the heavy CMDR traffic during the Buckyball triggered an increase in NPC pirates - which is funny, because we all had stripped down ships with no cargo!

As well as Chaga, the other systems were:

No Chianga
Cate
Wolonuigo
K'uanele
Shesmu
Chaona

They're all located together, so while I can't say that I've visited them since the race, they should all be quiet and seven border systems with twelve stations between them is probably far too much space for CMDR pirates to bother stalking in the hope of catching an occasional explorer.
 
May I dare to suggest every CMDR to steer their ships to my home systems?

Not only they are outside of any power grip, but they are independent, safe systems near the edge of the bubble. Would love to have more CMDRS to join me to make them a Haven for exploration.

ELEU - Agricultural System. Social Eleu Progressive Party -Independent and Democratic- runs the system. You want to head to the Finney Dock, the capital Orbis station, where you can also find "Eleu Thermals" which are rares. Just in case trading strikes.

SANTJALAN - High Tech system, controlled also by the SEPP. Corporate government. Cantor Terminal is a Coriolis station with all your needs for high tech components. However, the jewel of the crown is in the High Tech Lab Martinez City Oupost, where you can sell your data and feel you are collaborating for some serious research.

I departed three months ago from my beloved Santjalan...should be back in 5 or 6 weeks...but all of you are welcome! It's been my home since January...although I have spent more time out of the bubble than in it..lol...
 
@Kancro, I was planning to return via your home systems when I returned from Sag A* and only changed my mind when I noticed how easily accessible the Buckyball-7 systems were. Obviously at the time I was saving my actual exploration data for the Sirius CG.

I shall make sure that I visit Martinez City on my next return from a long-range trip. This will hopefully be very soon as I plan to depart on another Sag A* run this weekend and still return in time to race at Buckyball-8 later this month! :eek:
 
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anybody knows, whether jaques travelling station has an starport? as far as i remember, it doesn't?
 
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Not sure if this is good enough for the list, but I've been basing myself out of Desubi for my last 2 runs. It's a high tech (and I believe high sec) Imperial system well outside the PP influence zone. Biggest drawback is that nearest port is ~75k LS from nav point.
 
Thanks for starting this thread Ziljan! I visited both Jaques Station and Martinez City in Kancro's beloved Santjalan while I was back in the bubble on Friday.

I had a few drinks at Jaques bar and also made friends with those nice Martinez City scientists.

May I dare to suggest every CMDR to steer their ships to my home systems?

<SNIP!>

I departed three months ago from my beloved Santjalan...should be back in 5 or 6 weeks...but all of you are welcome! It's been my home since January...although I have spent more time out of the bubble than in it..lol...

Hi Kancro!

Your home systems seem to be prospering whilst you are away, according to the station news I was just one of over 200 ships to visit Santjalan on Friday - mostly exploration and trading type ships I might add. There didn't seem to be any danger in the system :)

I'd assume that Eleu itself is probably even more prosperous with the attraction of the rare goods.

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By the way, does anyone know if it's possible to gain Friendly/Allied rep with Jaques? I sold well over 1M Credits of exploration data at his station, but he remained 'Neutral', I assume that he's a cynical old coot who needs a larger amount of help before becoming friendly. ;)
 
sorry for bumping.

want to add

jakurtas

to this list. it's high above sol, edge of the bubble, and a good harbour if you coming from the top of the galactic pane.

actually you can buy and outfit a complete exploration asp there, including class 6 fuelscoops. and the other way round - get your Asp combat ready.
 
Someone recommended Kano (I'm afraid I don't recall the posters name) as a place to go if you're returning from the core direction and want to sell some data to the Imperials. Stevenson Mines port is close to the star and I had an uneventful run in last night.
 
Hi,
I have read this thread and am wondering, if selling the data will add to main faction rep only or to minor (local) faction rep? Or to both?
Until now I went to the system I wanted to get my rep up and not to the most safe system.
Eisen
 
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We all worry when return to the bubble. Will we get interdicted before we can dock safely? Will all my hard work be for nothing? On top of this, many of the best builds for exploration are also instant death if roam into the wrong system while aligned to any power, or even no power at all!

If we are good at speed jumping, then we can safely hop between systems in the bubble before any NPCs or CMDRs even show up on our sensors. However that last few dozen Ls to our destination station is where the danger lies. Since power play, it is not uncommon to get interdicted 3 times before docking even at stations that are practically inside the corona.

What we need is a list of safe harbor systems for our intrepid explorers. Systems with high security that fall outside of the power play struggle. Idk if Shinrata Dezhra (sp?) is one of those systems? But the list needs to be long enough that we can post it openly for new players without worrying about griefers stalking the systems in Open.

So please post (or PM me) your favorite safe harbor system and once we get enough them. We will be able to more safely travel the stars in ships that are optimized for exploration without having to compromise heat or jump range. Something I think many of the peaceful and curious folks here would appreciate.

SAFETY TIPS FOR GETTING YOUR DATA TO DOCK:

-if playing in Open, when you jump to a system and immediately see a few ships on your sensors, it means that a CMDR has been undermining/fortifying/prepping in the area. Do not stop to see if the CMDR is friendly. Leave this system immediately.

-most stations face the planet they orbit. Some pilots like to save time docking by exiting SC from inside the orbit so they can line up for the mail slot more quickly. Of course this leaves you open to an ambush by malificent CMDRs who hide inside station orbits where you don't see them with all of the traffic until it's too late. A better tactic to avoid interdictions (which require access to your tail) is to overshoot the station and approach it from an outside trajectory so that your backside is only facing the outer planets and not every ship in the system.

-keep throttle on full from the moment you leave hyperspace. Do not slow for the star, just pull away from it and your speed wind drop below 0.3c. This is important because in order to be interdicted, your attacker needs to not only be in range, but also needs to be going as fast as you are. Since speed goes up logarithmically, if you start off faster, they can never catch you unless you slow down! This is another reason why overshooting a planet is a good idea.

-You will pick up speed a bit quicker if you head out of the systems plane because the mass of nearby planets won't slow you down. Also, head directly away from the star if possible, since the shortest path out of its mass locking field is a radial line outwards.

-if playing open or groups, then call a fiend to wing up with you. Make sure you nav lock on the slowest ship in the wing!

PERMIT SYSTEMS:

A few of the permit systems can be hotspots for CMDR activity and even power play nuisances, filled with NPCs with interdictors equipped. However, the more obscure ones would be good places to get away from the crowds. I imagine they have higher security than most systems and possibly lower NPC traffic. Be sure to check whether the system falls under the influence of the galactic powers before going there. Any control or contested system is likely to be filled with agents from several powers spoiling for a fight or looking for easy prey.

Here is a link for permit systems and the controlling faction that you need to please to gain access:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=122593

Systems outside the bubble, which currently are not owned by a major power:

17 Draconis (-306, 272, 50)
Exphiay (284, -129, 39)
Sothis (-343, 10, -346)
New Yembo (-335, 5, 74)

Systems outside Power Play:

krataula (-2, 52, 112)
dobunn (-55, 5, 119)
Varati

Reported Safe Systems inside the Bubble:

Cuachini: High-Tech, Medium Security, Independent, Corporate. Arrival point 6.09 Ls (Coriolis).
Hmon: Industrial, Medium Security, Independent, Corporate. Arrival point 14.93 Ls (Coriolis).

LEU - Agricultural System. Social Eleu Progressive Party -Independent and Democratic- runs the system. You want to head to the Finney Dock, the capital Orbis station, where you can also find "Eleu Thermals" which are rares. Just in case trading strikes.

SANTJALAN - High Tech system, controlled also by the SEPP. Corporate government. Cantor Terminal is a Coriolis station with all your needs for high tech components. However, the jewel of the crown is in the High Tech Lab Martinez City Oupost, where you can sell your data and feel you are collaborating for some serious research.


Buckyball 7 systems (edge of human space with stations/shipyards):

No Chianga
Cate
Wolonuigo
K'uanele
Shesmu
Chaona


*** Unsafe Border Systems***

Canopus (277, -132, -42) - Known Pirate Haunt

Great idea Z. Loving this idea. Repped.
 
Hi,
I have read this thread and am wondering, if selling the data will add to main faction rep only or to minor (local) faction rep? Or to both?
Until now I went to the system I wanted to get my rep up and not to the most safe system.
Eisen

selling exploration data will add to your reputation with the minor faction controlling the station you sell it (and higher that factons influence in the system). if this minor faction is connected to one of the three major factions, you will influence your major factions reputation indirectly, too (there is no way to influence your major faction reputation directly).

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this list can be used in several ways:

a) many explorers don't care about faction rep, because out there there are no factions. so getting your data sold safetly may be more important for you.

b) you can also upgrade your exploration ship with defensive mouls like best thrusters, best shield, chaff, best powerdistributor in one of these "safe" systems, before you go, where you want to sell your data

c) (that's what i do) i have parked my exploration ship (which is maxed for jumprange, and wouldn't live long if attacked) in a safe harbour at the edge of the bubble. if i plan a trip, i take my cobra or python there, go exploring, come back, change to my python or cobra, and sell the data where i want it to sell in the bubble.

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we are talking about millions of credits in unselled data, and - even more - about many hours/days/weeks/month of gameplay - so i think security should matter to explorers. better safe than sorry.
 
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