Here's an amateur photo of T-Dog's badass anaconda in front of Sag*A.
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Here's an amateur photo of T-Dog's badass anaconda in front of Sag*A.
And here is some of Commander Lonely Flyer working that Asp in front of Sagittarius A*
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Every program I have seen about black holes has mentioned that there is always a mass of swirling dust and material around the black hole being drawn into it, and the largest ones have massive plumes of ejection shooting out of their poles. I think that sort of thing was the kind of thing I would love to see in this game - a massive maelstrom of death and destruction being sucked into it from all the nearby stars etc. Most people believe you wouldnt actually see the event horizon for all this material flowing into it although I would think it would be more like a massive whirlpool in space. Either way though I think they are extremely powerful objects you shouldnt be able to get anywhere near them and remain safe.
That sort of gravity well effect should be represented in this game, you should start getting pulled towards them and if you get too close there should be no way to get out even at supercruise. I think every unusual object like this should have gameplay effects maybe shooting you away at a very fast speed if you venture into the polar plume etc.
Same as supernovae should be perhaps represented as massive tidal waves in space with extreme turbulence if you enter them.
And neutron stars maybe should fry your electrics if their lighthouse like beams hit your ship.
Same as going through asteroid belts/rings should perhaps make loads of micro-meteors hitting your ship messing with your sensors and shields.
Space is dangerous this should be how it should be represented in this game (it is Elite Dangerous after all!) at the moment none of this inherent danger is reflected in the game it needs to be there!
That sort of gravity well effect should be represented in this game, you should start getting pulled towards them and if you get too close there should be no way to get out even at supercruise. I think every unusual object like this should have gameplay effects maybe shooting you away at a very fast speed if you venture into the polar plume etc.
Same as supernovae should be perhaps represented as massive tidal waves in space with extreme turbulence if you enter them.
And neutron stars maybe should fry your electrics if their lighthouse like beams hit your ship.
Same as going through asteroid belts/rings should perhaps make loads of micro-meteors hitting your ship messing with your sensors and shields.
Space is dangerous this should be how it should be represented in this game (it is Elite Dangerous after all!) at the moment none of this inherent danger is reflected in the game it needs to be there!
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Everything I've seen says black holes don't suck material in like vacuum cleaners. Stuff falls into them because of their massive gravity well but it's not a violent process.
CMDR DrNoesis, aboard the Ethics Gradient reporting in, and pleased to report having successfully reached the core.
Sadly the gift shop there had been closed over public health grounds (something to do with a guy named Kane and a bad salad?), so I was unable to pick up a bumper sticker for my asp or a bobblehead for the dash
Sadly the gift shop there had been closed over public health grounds (something to do with a guy named Kane and a bad salad?), so I was unable to pick up a bumper sticker for my asp or a bobblehead for the dash
Finally made it, the trip had ups downs, and a few bumps... My dog even full throttled me into a sun while fueling. CMDR I.P. Freely, and the HMS Porcelain Throne have made it. Unfortunately now I have to go because there hasn't been a rest stop in ages, and the Throne is pretty full.
Do we get extra credit if our first intentional exploration mission was this? Should be an achievement, make it to Sgr A* as an Aimless pilot, just wandering the galaxy.
Do we get extra credit if our first intentional exploration mission was this? Should be an achievement, make it to Sgr A* as an Aimless pilot, just wandering the galaxy.
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+1 for epic Culture name.
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Finally made it, the trip had ups downs, and a few bumps... My dog even full throttled me into a sun while fueling. CMDR I.P. Freely, and the HMS Porcelain Throne have made it. Unfortunately now I have to go because there hasn't been a rest stop in ages, and the Throne is pretty full.
Do we get extra credit if our first intentional exploration mission was this? Should be an achievement, make it to Sgr A* as an Aimless pilot, just wandering the galaxy.
Congrats! Nothing like the big white telephone at a black hole, no problems with waste disposal.
Some scientific tackling of the points, if it interests anyone:
The mass of swirling dust happens in two cases: one when something large is caught in a black hole and slowly consumed, or when it's a rotating black hole and it captures matter around it -- in that case, that matter swirling around it is called an accretion disk.
Also, in a common misconception, black holes do not have any special gravitational pull -- outside the event horizon, they exert the exact same gravity effect that any body of similar size. Once you get past the event horizon, you get the inescapable pull, the lensing effect, and eventually a sinking image as every beam of light points towards the singularity in the centre of the black hole.
The material shooting out of their poles thing is built up energy and radiation -- it happens very rarely with charged rotating black holes, or more destructively (and bigger) with quasars.
Supernovae would not be something experienceable in the game in it's initial stages, since it would completely disintegrate anything -- after a couple of weeks, though, the expansion would continue, very bright but not as powerful, and then we would be able to experience the tidal stress you mentioned without dying immediately -- but probably would shortly after anyway (supernovas last only half a year at the most, with the peak of released energy in the first month but with very strong forces remaining along with intense brightness).
Neutron stars that emit those pulses are called pulsars, and they're so strong they would blow you up even if you were flying a station =P
Completely agree with this -- however, asteroid belts in ED are far too populated. In real life, they are boringly sparse.
On a final note no one mentioned in this thread, Sagittarius A* is ridiculously understated in ED. It is a Supermassive black hole surround by quasars, and that means it's not only huge (about the size of Earth's *orbit*) , it is *very* dangerous to get nearby without being destroyed.
Pretty much.
They do consume things (specially the "Moving" ones) but overall, it's not violent -- the cannibalization of a star takes years.Some scientific tackling of the points, if it interests anyone:
The mass of swirling dust happens in two cases: one when something large is caught in a black hole and slowly consumed, or when it's a rotating black hole and it captures matter around it -- in that case, that matter swirling around it is called an accretion disk.
Also, in a common misconception, black holes do not have any special gravitational pull -- outside the event horizon, they exert the exact same gravity effect that any body of similar size. Once you get past the event horizon, you get the inescapable pull, the lensing effect, and eventually a sinking image as every beam of light points towards the singularity in the centre of the black hole.
The material shooting out of their poles thing is built up energy and radiation -- it happens very rarely with charged rotating black holes, or more destructively (and bigger) with quasars.
Supernovae would not be something experienceable in the game in it's initial stages, since it would completely disintegrate anything -- after a couple of weeks, though, the expansion would continue, very bright but not as powerful, and then we would be able to experience the tidal stress you mentioned without dying immediately -- but probably would shortly after anyway (supernovas last only half a year at the most, with the peak of released energy in the first month but with very strong forces remaining along with intense brightness).
Neutron stars that emit those pulses are called pulsars, and they're so strong they would blow you up even if you were flying a station =P
Completely agree with this -- however, asteroid belts in ED are far too populated. In real life, they are boringly sparse.
On a final note no one mentioned in this thread, Sagittarius A* is ridiculously understated in ED. It is a Supermassive black hole surround by quasars, and that means it's not only huge (about the size of Earth's *orbit*) , it is *very* dangerous to get nearby without being destroyed.
Pretty much.
I don't even know where to start correcing all the incorrect statements you made here. I don't even have the patience. I just ask the readers not to take these posts seriously and at least read up on things on Wikipedia or something.
And I, in turn, ask readers to ignore what you said in the basis of non-empirical evidence. My claims can be backed up by research.
Wow, now we have ourselves a conundrum!
Chalk me up as a visitor to Sagittarius A. CMDR Kzak aboard the Relentless Argus, my Asp.
Took me almost 20 hours to get there, but it was worth it! Now for some days or a week of exploring the galaxy's central regions before making my way back to civilization.
(Edited for ship-naming, which was fitting after this journey.)
Took me almost 20 hours to get there, but it was worth it! Now for some days or a week of exploring the galaxy's central regions before making my way back to civilization.
(Edited for ship-naming, which was fitting after this journey.)
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It is - when I reached 6,500 LY from Sagittarius A, route-calculation took almost a minute instead of 5 seconds for 1,000 LY. As others may have reported, calculating a direct route to Sagittarius A from more than a single jump out seems to be impossible, but going to one of the neighbouring stars wasn't difficult.
Hats off to those brave few that managed to make this great journey before the route calculation was upgraded! That must have taken a lot more than 20 hours.
Hats off to those brave few that managed to make this great journey before the route calculation was upgraded! That must have taken a lot more than 20 hours.
Yes, I agree. There are a LOT of scientific inaccuracies here.
How can you say the consumption of a star isn't VIOLENT? This is what usually causes accretion disks, and quasars are sometimes formed in very extreme cases here. Gas heated to many millions of degrees, spinning to the center, and sometimes jets of unimaginable energy- NOT VIOLENT?Some scientific tackling of the points, if it interests anyone:
The mass of swirling dust happens in two cases: one when something large is caught in a black hole and slowly consumed, or when it's a rotating black hole and it captures matter around it -- in that case, that matter swirling around it is called an accretion disk.
Also, in a common misconception, black holes do not have any special gravitational pull -- outside the event horizon, they exert the exact same gravity effect that any body of similar size. Once you get past the event horizon, you get the inescapable pull, the lensing effect, and eventually a sinking image as every beam of light points towards the singularity in the centre of the black hole.
The material shooting out of their poles thing is built up energy and radiation -- it happens very rarely with charged rotating black holes, or more destructively (and bigger) with quasars.
Supernovae would not be something experienceable in the game in it's initial stages, since it would completely disintegrate anything -- after a couple of weeks, though, the expansion would continue, very bright but not as powerful, and then we would be able to experience the tidal stress you mentioned without dying immediately -- but probably would shortly after anyway (supernovas last only half a year at the most, with the peak of released energy in the first month but with very strong forces remaining along with intense brightness).
Neutron stars that emit those pulses are called pulsars, and they're so strong they would blow you up even if you were flying a station =P
Completely agree with this -- however, asteroid belts in ED are far too populated. In real life, they are boringly sparse.
On a final note no one mentioned in this thread, Sagittarius A* is ridiculously understated in ED. It is a Supermassive black hole surround by quasars, and that means it's not only huge (about the size of Earth's *orbit*) , it is *very* dangerous to get nearby without being destroyed.
Pretty much.
This violence is caused by the friction of the stellar gas at high speeds in the accretion disk. Read Phil Plait's Death from the Skies section on black holes (phd astronomer) for confirmation of what I just said.
Also, it being "surrounded by quasars"? I am very unsure as to what you mean here. Sagittarius A was discovered because nearby stars were in an orbit that was impossible without a supermassive object in the center- one that was invisible. I don't see why you think there are a lot of black holes around Sagittarius A. There are many, many stars, and certainly some black holes, but not a huge quasar density or anything like that.
Nope, it's entirely possible. I just did it from 980 LY away.
It took just under 50 minutes, while my frame rate fell below 1FPS, but it's possible!
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