Same old song about cheaters

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Having Australian internet, I actually rely on the bandwidth indicator to ensure that I'm properly instanced with people (namely my wingmates). Sometimes the instancing process can take over an hour.


We already have, and it's hosted by CMDR Open Play

The problem is that it doesn't work. Otherwise people wouldn't be complaining. Easy fix: Create a private group.
 
The problem is that it doesn't work. Otherwise people wouldn't be complaining. Easy fix: Create a private group.
Creating a private group will just bring a limitation to how many ppl I can pirate but it would be logger free but the downside is that if I go to a cg traders in sc but if in a private group only the ppl in the group will be the only ones i can pirate
 
Just what is so different from a Combat Log, and a Timed Exit? 15 seconds? The Timed Exit shows that FD are ok with players ditching combat when they like, albeit with a delay. Players cannot even tell the difference between the two in game. With all of the content we as players are still waiting for I can't see asking FD to do more than what they are. Telemetry, and some Shadow Bans are happening. Let it go. You simply can't make people do something they don't want to do.

Sure, let's all get together and remind our selves that those that CL are the lowest scum in the galaxy (That's just to sooth those that need it), but be realistic. What can be done has been done. It's not like FD is going to announce who they've sanctioned, and it's unlikely the perps will either. This is just as dead a horse as the Solo/PG/open debate.
 
I dunno. I just got to this thread and noticed your comment about infiltrating groups.

What's going on? I'm 12 and I'm scared.
I just think it's funny that those who's mission statement is to ruin other people's gaming experience are complaining people are ruining their gaming experience.
 
The problem is that it doesn't work. Otherwise people wouldn't be complaining. Easy fix: Create a private group.
You're applying a band-aid to a broken limb. It does nothing to solve the core issue.

How about Frontier makes the logout timer reset each time damage is taken, and punishes repeat taskkillers harshly? I think that's a better way to look at it.
 
Creating a private group will just bring a limitation to how many ppl I can pirate but it would be logger free but the downside is that if I go to a cg traders in sc but if in a private group only the ppl in the group will be the only ones i can pirate

Yes, that's the point. You can't force people to be your victim.
 
I wonder, is there even any chance that fdev will solve the problem of combat log? I know Mr. Braben to personally call it cheating. I've seen it myself) I recently spoke with one of the new players, and he said to me that actively uses the combat log even in solo that would not have to pay insurance. Is this normal? It really does not matter to anyone?

Problem is, it's n'th on the list of things to address IMHO:-
1) Introduce better Crime and Punishment. Both the game better policing itself and higher/serious penalties for the illegal destruction of Pilots Federation members.
2) Give piracy better mechanics. It's nigh on a mess at the moment, after nearly 2yrs!?
3) If someone if soft logging out to Menu in a combat situation, show this timer to any/all CMDRs in the instance. At least pirates know another CMDR is/isn't soft logging out then!
4) Introduce legal PvP mechanics/tasks in the game. The game in trust does nothing to orchestrate/promote legal PvP. No wonder there's loads of CMDRs simply interdicting any/all other CMDRs in the hope of some PvP given the game offers no alternative!
5) Penalise combat logging. The game can keep track of repeated "exits" during combat situations, especially those involving other CMDRs, and give out warnings then take mroe serious action in required. eg: Increasingly long bans to SOLO?
 
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You're applying a band-aid to a broken limb. It does nothing to solve the core issue.

How about Frontier makes the logout timer reset each time damage is taken, and punishes repeat taskkillers harshly? I think that's a better way to look at it.

It doesn't solve the problem.

1. Player doesn't want to play with you.
2. You force the player to play with you.
3. The player pulls the plug.
4. The players gets a harsh punishment (whatever this means).
5. The player will no longer play in Open because he doesn't like to get punished, forced and killed.
6. Open gets empty because just the 15% interested in PvP remain.
 
It is trivial to set things so that your countdown timer can run its course and you receive no damage, so a timer reset would do absolutely nothing to someone determined to do this.
 
No but I would run out of ppl to pirate lol so there for the ppl who dont want to deal with pirates etc should go private group

Or everyone who loves to get pirated joins your private group, because obviously your solution doesn't work. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist.
 
It doesn't solve the problem.

1. Player doesn't want to play with you.
They should be in solo then.

2. You force the player to play with you.
Welcome to open play. This is how it's advertised on the game's website.

3. The player pulls the plug.
Cheating, as stated by the devs. A support ticket with video evidence would do nicely here.

4. The players gets a harsh punishment (whatever this means).
Good. I hate playing with cheaters, no matter what game it's in.

5. The player will no longer play in Open because he doesn't like to get punished, forced and killed.
If he didn't want to be potentially subjected to other players, then he shouldn't be playing in open in the first place.

6. Open gets empty because just the 15% interested in PvP remain.
Open is thriving with activity. I make new friends every day (and yes, I'm friends with all traders that submit to my piracy demands and comply)
Player interaction the most interesting and unpredictable thing in gaming.
 
Purely out of curiosity, how does FD have a say in when I turn off my PC or disconnect it from the rest of the world?

Never combat logged, but at least it's not as immature as mode invasion.


Well its a good thing I'm not in charge... for the millisecond your under attack ,( been targeted, weapons fire hits your hull) and the 'power/connection' goes off ( what bad luck that was) , your ship blows ups :)

And anyone who attacks a non weaponize ship ( mines mining laser excluded ) are Murderers, can't dock, cant get repairs , and when the murderers ship does blow up their next re-buy triples :)...the bounty goes to the innocence player they murdered.

fly safe have fun ..lol , get a good power generator !

And of course their would be Mat storage as well :)
 
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They should be in solo then.


Welcome to open play. This is how it's advertised on the game's website.


Cheating, as stated by the devs. A support ticket with video evidence would do nicely here.


Good. I hate playing with cheaters, no matter what game it's in.


If he didn't want to be potentially subjected to other players, then he shouldn't be playing in open in the first place.


Open is thriving with activity. I make new friends every day (and yes, I'm friends with all traders that submit to my piracy demands and comply)
Player interaction the most interesting and unpredictable thing in gaming.

You don't get it...
 
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