Say goodbye to Anarchies

Erei

Erei
Chorda said:
These content creators are so thirsty for views that they will continue to recommend exploits, farming, and gold rushes. They're still only a symptom that calls attention to a problem firmly in FDev's purview though.
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Don't blame the messenger, blame the game. Opinion poll are cancer to loot, and you need 40 of them. Plus you can do the cat meme engineer at the same time. They are relatively rare in touristic economy, and rarer elsewhere.
So people are going them in resort, and to prevent having to pay a fortune in fines, they do it in anarchy.

The system is stupid, you do the most efficient route. Don't blame the player for that.
 

Erei

Erei
Chorda said:
That's exactly what I said in the quote.
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You called it "exploit" and said he was thristy for view. Which is rude. He makes guide and explain how it works. That's not being thirsty. And that's not exploit, just logic. It's working as intended.
Which is why I said, blame the game.
 

Chorda

Chorda
Erei said:
You called it "exploit" and said he was thristy for view. Which is rude. He makes guide and explain how it works. That's not being thirsty. And that's not exploit, just logic. It's working as intended.
Which is why I said, blame the game.
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Neither of those detract from my point that it's FDev's prerogative to fix, not a fault of content creators.

And of course they're thirsty for views, DtEA even said recently he's eager to get to 100k subscribers by a certain date.
 

Erei

Erei
Chorda said:
Neither of those detract from my point that it's FDev's prerogative to fix, not a fault of content creators.

And of course they're thirsty for views, DtEA even said recently he's eager to get to 100k subscribers by a certain date.
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Do you know why they are doing that ? Because most people do. That's the gameplay loop Fdev seems to have intended for us to follow. I know I did. And others.

To have an exploit, you need a bug. There are none. It's just gameplay.

Balance that stuff, and then we'll do something else.
 

Chorda

Chorda
Erei said:
Do you know why they are doing that ? Because most people do. That's the gameplay loop Fdev seems to have intended for us to follow. I know I did. And others.

To have an exploit, you need a bug. There are none. It's just gameplay.

Balance that stuff, and then we'll do something else.
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You're straw man'ing left and right here.

In my original post that you quoted, I made it clear that the fault lies with FDev. You lectured me not to blame the players, which I didn't, and that I was 'rude' to DtEA, when in fact I just said content creators were thirsty for views, and then pointed out that DtEA recently made it quite clear he's very eager to grow his channel an get more views. Rude or not, exploit or not, you've misinterpreted me and continue to double down in your mistake in an incredibly bizarre way. Are you as cross-eyed as your avatar or something?
 

Erei

Erei
Chorda said:
You're straw man'ing left and right here.

In my original post that you quoted, I made it clear that the fault lies with FDev. You lectured me not to blame the players, which I didn't, and that I was 'rude' to DtEA, when in fact I just said content creators were thirsty for views, and then pointed out that DtEA recently made it quite clear he's very eager to grow his channel an get more views. Rude or not, exploit or not, you've misinterpreted me and continue to double down in your mistake in an incredibly bizarre way. Are you as cross-eyed as your avatar or something?
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You're not the only one who were aggressive toward him, for a game design issue. I quoted you because you where last, and it's not personal. It's hard to discuss with 3 people at once^^
photomankc said:
This freaking guy. Remember, this is who gets gift baskets from FDev.
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Screemonster said:
Yeah, never underestimate the power of some youtuber making a how-to guide, even if you don't have to do it that way or the devs never intended for it to be done that way - if someone with a large audience says it's easy to do it that way, it'll get done that way.

Cowards. I just took my bounty like a man and did it at a lawful settlement.
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Which is why I said "blame the game, not the player". Fdev made that a gameplay loop, Content creator just did it on camera. That's what most experienced enough player (like them) are doing for the same item.

System need to change, but the content creator are not the issue.
 

Chorda

Chorda
Erei said:
You're not the only one who were aggressive toward him, for a game design issue. I quoted you because you where last, and it's not personal. It's hard to discuss with 3 people at once^^
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I'm not 'aggressive' towards DtEA at all. My original statement was a blanket one about content creators, who have absolutely created videos advertising exploits, gold rushes, and farming guides. And I made it quite clear that these problems are for FDev to fix. Please don't put words in my mouth and lecture me with the very point I made. It's weird (and aggressive).
 

Erei

Erei
Chorda said:
I'm not 'aggressive' towards DtEA at all. My original statement was a blanket one about content creators, who have absolutely created videos advertising exploits, gold rushes, and farming guides. And I made it quite clear that these problems are for FDev to fix. Please don't put words in my mouth and lecture me with the very point I made. It's weird (and aggressive).
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In my mind "thirsty for sub" mean they'll do anything for it. Which is not a good thing.
I'll put that on a misunderstanding. I did not wish to attack you, and even less personally.
 

Chorda

Chorda
Erei said:
In my mind "thirsty for sub" mean they'll do anything for it. Which is not a good thing.
I'll put that on a misunderstanding. I did not wish to attack you, and even less personally.
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That's in your mind then. I have no personal grievance with DtEA; I think he's a stand up fellow who makes consistent, useful, and detailed content, and he has a very stable and pleasant personality. But my use of 'thirsty' is one I'd stand by, because YouTube does tend to encourage people to grow somewhat addicted to channel growth and views. Call it an occupational hazard, I guess.
 

Obi Wan Naboo

Obi Wan Naboo
Arthur Tolmie said:
Hey Obi - thank you for this, I have passed on and we are investigating as a priority. We will come back as soon as we can.

-Arf
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Sorry about being so blunt, but I'm done with the official thread on the topic. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/anarchy-factions-systems-influence-loss-reports.581427/

If my very on topic, although somewhat critical comment, just gets deleted without so much as an explanation than something is rotten in the land of Denmark FDev.

I tried my best to adhere to constructive criticism while pointing out flaws in the game mechanics that led to the near destruction of all anarchy systems. I know it's your prerogative to moderate the forums as you see fit, but simply removing my post like it's 1984 won't help at all in restoring the trust of a community deeply angered by the many bugs introduced with EDO.
 

Fishy

Fishy
Irrespective of the OP farming, Anarchies are bound to be the prime target for all kind of ground settlement missions as part of normal gameplay. Since a large amount of them involve criminal activities and many players are reluctant to even get a fine, they'll likely end up there, murdering the likely anarchist locals.
 
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