Scavenging Dead Titans for Drives and Loot

[Nadreck]

People are seeing a lot of variability in Titan Drive Component drop-rates. I tried for hours at Cocijo and never found any (including going back with an Anaconda equipped with 8A sensors). Eventually gave up, set a buy-order on my Carrier at maximum price, and got 9 of them (my thanks to those who sold them to me).

I have two alts, my "assistants" (one based in the Bubble and one in Colonia), I sold them 2 each. My Bubble assistant needed Propulsion Elements and went to Sol to get them, and still didn't find any TDC's. After my Colonia alt went to the Bubble and did the same, I accidentally found another five TDC's. That alt doesn't have a Sol permit, and went to Pegasi Sector IH-U b3-3 (Raijin) instead, dunno if that made any difference. And that ship (a T8) only had unengineered 3A sensors.

 

[Bigmaec]

I have an active buy order on my Carrier Mountains of Madness in Salitat for 30 million a piece, in case someone wants to help me modernize my fleet

 

[Elpapo]

I have an active buy order on my Carrier Mountains of Madness in Salitat for 30 million a piece, in case someone wants to help me modernize my fleet

Yeah, I think, I can bring some of those, I am about to go deliver it.

Gonna bring 6, to that FC.

Usually I sell 1 per cmdr, but just for You, I shall make litte exception.


Edit:

Been at FC and sold:

6 of those, should cover most basic need for new SCO FSD's, but I recon it might take a while to passively gather all needed 14 left, from 20 buy order of titan drives.

Given drop rates, majority of cmdr are likely to hold for themselfs any TDC's they manage to find, and since there is player-only demand for such, the price of 30m per each is sufficent, neither less or more should be given/sold for TDC's, given there is active buy order for those at this price, about 600 TDC in total, all and each for 30m, acording to inara, while there is no FC that sells it, even if it shows up, I image it gets sold out within minutes....

I do checkin that demand for TDC at 30m mark, almost everyday, since few weeks, and noticed that this 30m demand at this price is somewhat being, ableit slowly, getting bigger. This means few things.... there isnt much of other cmdrs who bother with collecting and selling TDC's for FC's, since again, demand is slowly getting bigger and bigger, and most of FC's Ive been already visited, thier own TDC buy orders are at preety much same levels as when I was selling.



This is what I call, player to player economy, and given how marketing laws works, that 30m price kinda settled it by itself...

 

[metatheurgist]

People are seeing a lot of variability in Titan Drive Component drop-rates. I tried for hours at Cocijo and never found any (including going back with an Anaconda equipped with 8A sensors). Eventually gave up, set a buy-order on my Carrier at maximum price, and got 9 of them (my thanks to those who sold them to me).

All 30 of mine came from Cocijo. Very variable though. Some days I'd find 4 in a session, others none.

 

[Archvillain]

Do you have Report Crimes on?

Ooh, that could be it. I think it was off at the time (because to engage thargoids at the stations being evacuated, AX pilots were helped if the rescue-mission ships would avoid reporting accidental hits as we blasted out the mailchute )

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

I managed to get one at Cocijo yesterday...was about to give up after 1 hour or so, then it popped. Fired a limpets in targeted mode, stay 15 more minutes in case more would show up, but nope.

I had a class D sensor with lightweight mod on my Mandalay. Will return with a class A long range mode (12 km), which may help?

 

[Jmanis]

I managed to get one at Cocijo yesterday...was about to give up after 1 hour or so, then it popped. Fired a limpets in targeted mode, stay 15 more minutes in case more would show up, but nope.

I had a class D sensor with lightweight mod on my Mandalay. Will return with a class A long range mode (12 km), which may help?

Broadly, i think a- rate with long range helps spot them... but it doesn't change the spawn mechanics at all.

It just makes it less likely one spawns out of your sensor range.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

Broadly, i think a- rate with long range helps spot them... but it doesn't change the spawn mechanics at all.

It just makes it less likely one spawns out of your sensor range.

Yup, don't want to miss any...I was more or less flyi g circle during the last session, so maybe there actuywere some above or beneath me that I did not spot?
Also, not sure how long they persist, and if they pop up regularly or need other stuff to be picked/destroyed for new ones to pop up?

 

[Bigmaec]

Yeah, I think, I can bring some of those, I am about to go deliver it.

Gonna bring 6, to that FC.

Usually I sell 1 per cmdr, but just for You, I shall make litte exception.


Edit:

Been at FC and sold:
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6 of those, should cover most basic need for new SCO FSD's, but I recon it might take a while to passively gather all needed 14 left, from 20 buy order of titan drives.

Given drop rates, majority of cmdr are likely to hold for themselfs any TDC's they manage to find, and since there is player-only demand for such, the price of 30m per each is sufficent, neither less or more should be given/sold for TDC's, given there is active buy order for those at this price, about 600 TDC in total, all and each for 30m, acording to inara, while there is no FC that sells it, even if it shows up, I image it gets sold out within minutes....

I do checkin that demand for TDC at 30m mark, almost everyday, since few weeks, and noticed that this 30m demand at this price is somewhat being, ableit slowly, getting bigger. This means few things.... there isnt much of other cmdrs who bother with collecting and selling TDC's for FC's, since again, demand is slowly getting bigger and bigger, and most of FC's Ive been already visited, thier own TDC buy orders are at preety much same levels as when I was selling.



This is what I call, player to player economy, and given how marketing laws works, that 30m price kinda settled it by itself...

Hey, thanks a lot!

By the way, aren't you one of those dastardly PvPers who only want to destroy other players games, and never ever ever help anyone without Notoriety 17? Oh wait...

 

[i_sparrow]

Many commanders have reported difficulty in finding the Titan Drive Component.

Here are some things I’ve noticed that might make this search easier.

Using a modified long-range Sensor might help, but it's not essential. Most appearances of the Titan Drive Component occur within 6 km of the ship and disappear at 8 km away.

Upon arriving at the debris field, to save time, when I am 1000 km away, I reduce acceleration to 0 and exit the supercruiser 20 km from the destination.

I first search inside the debris field and then around it, within a 15 km radius from the center.

Large, static debris pieces might contain embedded materials, but they are only detected by the radar at a distance of 400 meters. Embedded materials can be extracted using the abrasion blaster. However, I’ve never found a Titan Drive Component this way.

Using a fast ship can speed up the search for the Titan Drive Component.

To make it easier to locate the Titan Drive Component, I ignore all other materials found in the debris field. This way, the white squares that appear on the radar are generally ship signals, ejected heat sinks, or Titan Drive Components.

After several long search sessions, I noticed that most Titan Drive Components were found within the first 10 minutes of searching. After 30 minutes, the appearances of the Titan Drive Component seem to be less frequent.

The best debris field to find the Titan Drive Component is "the next". You jump to the nearest debris field, and after 10 minutes of searching (successful or not), jump to the next, and then jump to the next...

 

[Elpapo]

Hey, thanks a lot!

No problems, since I had planned to do my usual weekly 1 TDC per FC visit trip, ready to visit some FC's.
And I saw your post just before I headed out, so figured out that it would be cool and faster to bring all 6 to you, and so I did.

By the way, aren't you one of those dastardly PvPers who only want to destroy other players games,

But... But mindless (there is always reason to kill someone) destruction of other cmdrs, isnt only thing to do for Me... I mean, PVP is about 95% of my limited time, but remain 5% had be done something else. Right..right?

Those days I found relaxing lookin for TDC's at titan wrecks.... as lil' bonus, there are often cmdrs to "play" with.... And of course... the play include:
Like attempts to takin away thier 1t of TDC's if found or rebui them otherwise, its fun... while actively searching any TDC meanwhile.
Finnaly had good reason to include manifest scanner to my bulids I use at titans.
It rarely works, but sometimes it does, during cmdr encounters but still had few cmdrs who nicely saved themselfs from rebui just for 1t.
A lot other died, also some sadly CLogged, and some small bit fought back even.

and never ever ever help anyone without Notoriety 17? Oh wait...

Notoriety at 10 is always welcome factor, but its more random thing to help someone out, out of blue, once for while. In other words, notoriety isnt required.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

Like attempts to takin away thier 1t of TDC's if found or rebui them otherwise, its fun... while actively searching any TDC meanwhile.
Finnaly had good reason to include manifest scanner to my bulids I use at titans.
It rarely works, but sometimes it does, during cmdr encounters but still had few cmdrs who nicely saved themselfs from rebui just for 1t.
A lot other died, also some sadly CLogged, and some small bit fought back even.

Wow....got to admit, this got it be the ultimate PvP piracy in the game! Also the most frustrating for the commanders on the other side...but hey, they did choose the go TDC hunting in Open, their choice.

TDC hunting, along with my usual ~10 stops engineer base journey when I build a new ship, is the only stuff I would not do in Open.

On the other hand, the extra 10% range does only make sense on my exobio/explorer ship. Saving one jump every 10 jumps would not make any difference for my other ships that I use within or near the bubble (BTW, I do not do trading outside of CGs), so I needed only one TDC anyway, and am happy to be done with this non-sense, waiting for the RNG God to pop one (or not)

 

[Elpapo]

Wow....got to admit, this got it be the ultimate PvP piracy in the game! Also the most frustrating for the commanders on the other side...but hey, they did choose the go TDC hunting in Open, their choice.

TDC hunting, along with my usual ~10 stops engineer base journeys when I build a new ship, is the only stuff I would not do in Open.

I agree.

Given PVP price per TDC, I guess.. its kind of utlimate piracy catch as there is, as there isnt any other commodity in game, that yields 30m per piece, right off bat.


Being pain as it is, to find any, causes hundreds of cmdrs out there, happen to set up buy order for 10000% of its stock worth, so they could get it bring to them.
This leaded to where is an over 600+ TDC to sell, each by 30m, in dozens of FC's all over bubble, often near titans themselfs.
Demand is being created, driven purely by Cmdrs wich, caused TDC to rise into top tier commodity to steal as pirate or, salvage work "juicy prize" or whatever else.
This also means, that anyone who try buy it for less than 30m, they wont surely getting any, long as 30m demand exists.... I can see it, its gonna stay a good while.

Relative as new commodity, wich is only around since first titan wrecks, i'd say its being underrated by a lot, and Inara kinda mandatory here as well to get FC's locations.
SCO FSD requiments wich came right after conflict ended, not long ago, it did gave meaning to TDC's. Something like that has to be worth something.
Newer players might more often that not, not notice its true worth until much more later, as in-game, there is no way to find good price for TDC using map(300k stock), because most cmdrs will use it anyway for FSD, and because they dont see 30 millions per each, but only 300k, might not realize yet about inara and fact that there is 30m demand.



I'd say its kind well worth, at very least, to be something that an any Pirate or not, would actually wanna steal, out of any other commodity in game, whenever felt like piracy.
There is demand, and TDC being stolen or not, this does not concern the buyers at all... they happly pay any 30m for any they can get..


Things like that is what can make open play more spicey, more meaningfull, for those who needs "reasons".

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

Nice write-up.
Totally agree with you

And if I happen to need some in the future, I will happily spend a few hundreds millions out of the few billions I make hunting stratums (unlike TDC hunting, exobio involves methodology instead of RNG, which I like much better).

 

[Neilski]

On the other hand, the extra 10% range does only make sense on my exobio/explorer ship. Saving one jump every 10 jumps would not make any difference for my other ships that I use within or near the bubble (BTW, I do not do trading outside of CGs), so I needed only one TDC anyway, and am happy to be done with this non-sense, waiting for the RNG God to pop one (or not)

On the third hand, there's the extra heat to consider - this has caused me to ponder removing the special drive from my multi-role DBX. (Haven't done it yet, because I need to work out if it actually makes enough difference while refuelling; but certainly for some ships it's likely to be the difference between being able to charge the FSD while scooping and not...)

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

On the third hand, there's the extra heat to consider - this has caused me to ponder removing the special drive from my multi-role DBX. (Haven't done it yet, because I need to work out if it actually makes enough difference while refuelling; but certainly for some ships it's likely to be the difference between being able to charge the FSD while scooping and not...)

Dang, you're right. I never considered that :

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[Archvillain]

I will engineer my powerplant to low emissions + monstered before you can pry the 5LY-range-buff-on-a-ship-that-doesn't-need-it from my cold dead hands

 

[Brieus]

So, what is the desired engineering so you can charge your FSD while still scooping w/o popping a cork?

 

[Kira Goto]

So, what is the desired engineering so you can charge your FSD while still scooping w/o popping a cork?

Low emissions, but charging while scooping is either a delicate matter of timing, dropping a heatsink... or you're in a Dolphin (whyever it has such broken heat handling).

 

[V'larr]

Has anyone found a TDC at Cojico recently?

I went there when the caustic cloud was still up to get TDCs for my fleet, out here again and it's been a couple hours without a single spawn. Tried flying out & back into the instance one time.

I really hate RNG mechanics.