omg , you serious ? this is computer game , its nothing but pixels on your screen ! if you kill somebody in game you don t hurt him for real . i would ban you from the game as you are not a gamer !
See, THAT's why I don't play Open.
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omg , you serious ? this is computer game , its nothing but pixels on your screen ! if you kill somebody in game you don t hurt him for real . i would ban you from the game as you are not a gamer !
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How many of the top real life criminals, commit crimes and get away with it every day?.
Answer... Lots... So really this isnt any different.
Tell that to the people whose ability to play the game, which they paid for, is being affected by such behaviour.
i have more than enough of real life in my REAL LIFE . people play this to escape to some other dimension and you want to make it similar to rl ?
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.You're emotional, I can tell. Calm down a bit. If you are in a high-security system and commit serious crimes, you would expect to be punished, no? If the punishment has no affect on your freedom whatsoever then it's not really a punishment. If you do the same thing in a low or no security system, or one where your faction standing is such that you can get away with anything, then you should feel free to kill as many harmless freewinders as you like.
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This here is the crux of the issue imo.
some people bought elite thinking it was a PvP orientated space shooter.
others bought it thinking it was an attempt to create a semi believable game about the life of a space man in 3300 where PvP was a small part of the game.
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This keeps coming up: the issue is not the way it's played, it's where it's played. Which right now is everywhere.
It's like having a Star Trek game in which Orion pirates can hang around unmolested in Earth orbit, popping Federation shuttles as they head for the spacedock[1]. Or a Star Wars game with rebel fighters flying around an Imperial shipyard, blasting TIEs but getting zero response from the Imperial Navy. These activities might be a whole bunch of fun if that sort of thing floats your boat, but they make no sense in the universes in which they're set.
Elite should be no different. Sol, Achenar, Barnard's Star, Alioth and other rich and politically important trade hubs should be constantly policed in ED in the same way that Earth is defended in the Trek universe, or Coruscant in the Star Wars galaxy. Zaonce should be heavily policed. Lave should be reasonably well policed. Not to make life more difficult for certain roles (although it would) but because it's part of the lore. A lore that FD were so keen to maintain during the KS novel funding and the DDF discussions, but which now seems to have been thrown out of the window.
It's like they just don't care any more. Or maybe someone's simply decided that cannons trump canon when it comes to promoting sales.
[1] as a disclaimer, I have not played [I]STO[/I]. For all I know this [B]does[/B] go on. If so, it's as equally nonsensical as what's happening in [I]ED[/I] and I would make the exact same argument against it.
When you can set up a Ponzi scheme in the game, defraud the Bank of Zaonce of trillions of credits, or rob the insurance money from the Elite Federation of Pilots, then I would agree that escaping punishment would be appropriately satirical.
Doing the in-game equivalent of a school shooting should probably mean that you are going to get punished, otherwise the whole "living galaxy" thing becomes a bit of a joke (or more of one depending upon who you listen to).
i don t kill harmless sidewinders , in fact i protect them and help them . your idea is terrible .
This is Elite Dangerous, should be able to blow up people where and when ever you see fit. My care cup is empty.
"In a game touted as play YOUR way." I think you take this way too literally. If in real life someone tell you "anything goes" you know very well that despite that there are limits. Online games are no different because social interaction is an important part of them.
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I've played Quake, Unreal Tournament since 1999 and Battlefield 2 & 3. I love PvP shooters. However, those are games designed for nothing else than PvP. Elite Dangerous is quite different, the ED website doesn't mention the many diferent roles you can play for nothing. Some rules are required to deconflict those roles in the game to offer all player groups a good gaming experience. Not just the PvP players.
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If you really start popping the console newbies I think you will be banned. But maybe I'm wrong. Try and find out.
Banned? I LOL'D !!
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They choose to be victims ( in a way before you start throthing ) .
We all started equal, I died many times at the beginning to both player, npc and boosting in the station.
I changed my style of play to stop that happening, months later I am now a hunter.
Anyone who decides to trade in known danger areas, do so with the knowledge that it could and probably will happen.
If they didnt, they will learn from it and then have the choice to again, go back or avoid it.
So really, ANYONE who is constantly getting killed by PVP is doing so by consent. By choosing to play in that area, they are opening themselves to PVP.
Saying we cannot kill you is very unfair, we paid for the game too.. Sniff.
Everyone sidewinder is fitted with an FDL Drive and can easily get many systems away with in the first 10minutes of game play.
Those that choose to stay around the starter systems, need to learn faster to either get away or fight back.
They also need to know that some fights, they cannot win.
Even if they feel that because of the many years of babying from games that they should be able to.
I remember my first assassination mission in my Freeagle... I died so quick it was hilarious... So i avoided them until i had a stronger ship.
I learned and improved.
The challenge of human players is what makes this game what it is.
What you suggest is not simply 'affecting the way somebody plays the game' it is completely removing their ability for playing the game. That is very different. What you are asking for is that players be banned for playing within the rules. Can you not see how nonsensical and unfair that is? Punishment and consequences for criminality should be harsher but should never remove somebody's right to play the game when they have not cheated and have not broken any rules.
The console noobs will only be playing with other console noobs. Microsoft doesn't like cross platform with xbox.
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