I already have. "Report crimes off" is a consent.I think your suggestion should come with more caveats rather than just a strict rule, please include a provision for excluding consenting PVP.
Personally I couldn't really care less, but sometimes I do get upset with the game's C&P. Not long ago I was based in a large space station, and used Frontline Solutions to wage war on the owning PMF. We did win the war, the station report and the ship's right tab confirmed that the tick had run, that we won the war, and the station had changed hands. Colour me surprised when the station takes me out when taking off from the pad..
The notoriety that most seem to want to avoid by attacking anarchies seems useless to me, just move to another system where you have no bounties and keep killing. Once you're persona non grata, just move on to another system. Some day you'll find that notoriety has gone, and maybe you even pay the bounties just to get rid of the clutter.
Seriously, what's the point in open play?
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That can be taken one step further: We already have a permit system. Access to high security systems could be denied with enough notoriety.
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As I understand @TiberiusDuval's proposal, only unlawful PvP would provoke a huge insurance fine by the Pilots Federation:I think your suggestion should come with more caveats rather than just a strict rule, please include a provision for excluding consenting PVP.
Personally I couldn't really care less, but sometimes I do get upset with the game's C&P. Not long ago I was based in a large space station, and used Frontline Solutions to wage war on the owning PMF. We did win the war, the station report and the ship's right tab confirmed that the tick had run, that we won the war, and the station had changed hands. Colour me surprised when the station takes me out when taking off from the pad..
The notoriety that most seem to want to avoid by attacking anarchies seems useless to me, just move to another system where you have no bounties and keep killing. Once you're persona non grata, just move on to another system. Some day you'll find that notoriety has gone, and maybe you even pay the bounties just to get rid of the clutter.
Player has "report crimes against me" off, PvP is lawful.
Player is in a combat zone and hostile, PvP is lawful.
Player is pledged to a hostile Power, PvP is lawful.
Player is an Anarchy system, PvP is lawful.
Player has a bounty on them, PvP is lawful.
Basically, they're proposing that Frontier implement the second, player on player justice system that they proposed way back in 2013, as a way of funneling PvP into situations that are more likely to be a source of fun, rather than frustration, for everyone one involved.
Yes, I've come to understand that, but it's not what I understood when I read the initial post..
If you look closely you’ll see that I answered every question that was actually presented. If you disagree then please quote the specific question I didn’t answer.
I stand by what I said. It’s a good idea. If it was implemented (which it won’t be) you and everyone else would enjoy the game a lot more. No meaningful objections have been raised against the idea
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despite what some think even Mexico isn't that bad in general
as for the criminal organisation... there is. it is the dark wheel but it isn't fleshed out
the pilots federation is more than just founders world access.
they pay our insurance policy (we just pay a small excess)
and they provide our very hard to acquire remlock suits which allows us to survive ship destruction iirc.
you have your opinions for what YOU would prefer but please don't try to claim you speak for me. I know what I want in elite far more than anyone else.
I wound up going back to my Python, with an SRV I don't need to land on the pad and there's always plenty of flat ground around the settlement.
They can buy euro track simulator
Flying in paper builds simply should be much more dangerous.
I'm talking about SURVVING attack, having enough hp to ESCAPE. Not to fight and kill all enemies.
BASIC rules of elite are simply: if you have cargo it can bait pirates after jumping to system.
ALL types of missions can spawn pirate, which want to kill you.
So basic rule is simple: any action can spawn enemies. If you cannot accept it you simply don't accept basic feature of game. There is no way to avoid any hostile actions from npcs (if we count even attempt to interdiction as hostile action). So if they are doing it, they should be at least effective. They should be threat, not annoying "damn, 5 interdticions in a row, I have to submit, boost and wake 5 times at distance 50ls).
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It is hillarious, when you talk about gankers, when I said about performance rebalance and threat created by BOTS
Enjoy your 10 shields build because max possible range
Tell me, if npcs could be more dangerous...would you start build ships with better survivability, or just remove game? Just curious.
This is what we all were asking for making highsec mean something and keeping anarchy systems as pirate havens.
I would say if both players fire on each other its consenting if one player dorsnt shoot its ganking and gets added to your rebuy.
i dont see how that can work...... For me that is what the report crimes on / off is for.
a player should be able to defend themselves if attacked. also there would be the problem of auto turrets which i dont think would be good if a player was expected to have to manually turn them on to defend yourself.
i would love to see the pilots federation and dark wheel faction fleshed out.
forgetting everything else that player should be banned for having a very silly commander name
They can buy euro track simulator
I suspect there is a decently large contingent of ED players who play ETS2 and/or ATS.
I'm one of them!
Raises hand, yup play that one tooI suspect there is a decently large contingent of ED players who play ETS2 and/or ATS.
I'm one of them!
Yeah there is a lot of issues as has been discussed to death, i would simply make the ATS have police issue experimental weapons that are very damaging and have police issue souped up ships that go right up to a corvette or beyond. Think like GTA's Police then FBI then Military in a ED universe this would make being a criminal much harder if a battleship turned up to destroy you with experimental military grade weapons
It's not really an MMOG though is it. Instancing means it's impossible to gang up on Gankers. In Eve for example, player groups put massive fleets together to go through ganker territory, with huge cargo haulers protected by dedicated warship escort and truly make it a war. In Elite if the gankers have formed a fleet and are instanced together, then there's a limited number of "players" can get into their instance, so you become easy pickings.
raises hand........ i need to get back to it. another game fabulous in vr that i would not touch on a screen... its online radio streaming is genius as well. simple but so effective.I suspect there is a decently large contingent of ED players who play ETS2 and/or ATS.
I'm one of them!
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.... except we all bought this game, even if we have different expectations from it.They can buy euro track simulator
Some certainly want it to be - effectively changing the base challenge posed by the game to suit their particular preference with little or no regard for the preferences of other players.
Noting that the last time there was a significant step change in base challenge posed by the game it was rolled back quick smart after player feedback (and likely analysis of in-game data showing lower player hours per unit time).
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