Shadow Quality

Drelthar

Drelthar
Morbad said:
Yeah, I've noticed this in some areas.

It's one of several issues that caused me to shelve the changes when the Odyssey alpha originally dropped. I was hoping some of the recent patches resolved it, but it's becoming clear it's still present in some scenes with my PlanetApproach profile.

You can revert just that profile back to stock, leaving space, SRV, and on-foot shadows at the new values, by swapping out everything inside <Profile_PlanetApproach></Profile_PlanetApproach> with the originals (I've posted both above).

I'm not sure how to resolve this problem without significantly reducing the cascade distances and reenabling altitude adaptation (which has it's own problems), but I'll do some more experimenting later.

Thanks for the feedback.
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No probs, it's awesome except that
 

Morbad

Morbad
Drelthar said:
No probs, it's awesome except that
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I think I found a significant mitigation, that shouldn't break anything else, in restoring the distance clamps to the cross-fade on the PlanetApproach profile.

I've attached an updated file. Let me know if it's an improvement (be sure to remove everything after the .xml in the file name, of course).
 

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Morbad

Morbad
I've also attached the above file to the OP with a note about the update.

If anyone encounters any significant issues with shadows while using the most recent profile, or if the most recent profile has introduced a new problem, please mention it here, and include the following information, if possible:

  • Settings used
  • Location
  • Sun's location (angle of incidence)
  • A screenshot or video of the problem

If it's something I can fix, without breaking something more important, I will.
 

Drelthar

Drelthar
Morbad said:
I think I found a significant mitigation, that shouldn't break anything else, in restoring the distance clamps to the cross-fade on the PlanetApproach profile.

I've attached an updated file. Let me know if it's an improvement (be sure to remove everything after the .xml in the file name, of course).
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Sweet, I'll try this next time I play.
 

Wendake

Wendake
Morbad said:
UPDATE: I've attached an updated file to address and issue brought to my attention by Drelthar. I'm leaving the old file attached for posterity, but it should be considered depreciated. Use the most recent GraphicsConfiguration.xml.EDOv2.txt attachment (and be sure to rename it correctly).

The other day I noticed than a recent update (something after 4.0.0.200) split the spot shadow configuration from the main shadow tables in the game's GraphicsConfiguration.xml. This change allowed me to identify, and largely did the work of isolating, variables that were preventing my custom Horizons shadow tables from working correctly.

So, I dumped my most recent profiles (from December 2019) into the newest build. A couple of quick examples, first on foot during the suit tutorial, and one while flying over the surface of a planet with the sun at a low angle (best viewed in 4k or 1440p, no matter the size of your display, because that's where YouTube uses VP9):

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tld3GfG_UX0


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhe-3cQqx80


Note the relative smoothness of transitions in the first video and distance to which detail is retained as well as the relative lack of flickering in the second video. Going to need some Odyssey specific tuning I think, but even unchanged, they are a significant improvement from the Ultra quality shadows currently in the game.

If anyone who was otherwise running Ultra shadows wants to try these tables, I've attached an updated GraphicsConfiguration.xml (remove the .txt extension and anything after .xml) that should be used to replace the one in the game's main directory (same folder as Odyssey's EliteDangerous64.exe). Selecting Ultra quality in game should use my shadow modifications after doing so. There is no risk to this as verifying the game files will replace the modified file with an original, though you can, of course, just rename or backup the original.

These changes are one of the few GraphicsConfiguration modifications that cannot be placed in the override file as they add frustums that weren't in the original, rather than simply modifying already present values.

I also recommend setting <LODDistanceScale>1.999999</LODDistanceScale> in the "%LocalAppData%\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Graphics\Custom.4.0.fxcfg" file.

There is mild performance hit to these changes. If you weren't using Ultra shadows because they were too costly, performance wise, these won't help you.
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Glad that you're still here also working on Odyssey Morbad ! I enjoyed your previous shadow file in Horizon and I'll definitely give it a try in Odyssey ! Shadows on approach were horrible when the sun was low and I can't wait to test it !
 

Morbad

Morbad
Another update (v3):
  • Removed redundant spot shadow entries from primary profile lists.
  • Enabled full resolution EVSM cascades.
  • Adjusted Profile_PlanetSurface (the ones you see on foot or in the SRV) cascades to improve close-range shadow quality and reduce pixelation at the cost of maximum cascade distance (it's still 5km, which is still further than stock 'Ultra') and slightly increased shadow softness.
 

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Morbad

Morbad
New update is ready.

At the risk of confusing people, I've decided to go back to what I was doing with my Horizons shadow profiles and replace the Low quality directional shadow setting, rather than Ultra. My rationale for this is that anyone looking to run shadows past Ultra is probably never going to consider Low, but if there are any issues with my profiles, being able to fallback to the default Ultra will hurt quality less than having to go to High.

So, when using the attached file, make sure you rename it correctly (remove everything after the ".xml") and select LOW for directional shadow quality in the game's settings. Spot shadows should be left on Ultra.

Changelog:
  • Reduced slice size of all profiles from 16384 to 8192. This is still quadruple Ultra's resolution, but should save some VRAM and reduce the occurrence of some very small objects not casting shadows at all below 4k screen resolution. Those running at 4k or beyond can try setting 16384 if they like, but the difference will be minimal.
  • Rebalanced some frustum distances, depth biases, and enabled the blurrier "3" filter setting for Profile_PlanetApproach. This addresses some depth artifacts at very oblique illumination angles and prevents shadows from revealing the seams in the polygons of terrain geometry. Thanks to @Good Death for pointing out the latter issue. The downside of using filter quality "3" rather than "2" is that shadows are considerably more rounded and modestly less detailed at middling ranges, with some edge haloing in rare cases. Regardless, it's a good trade off for PlanetApproach.

Actual shadow profile contents, for those who want to review them:
XML: 
        <Profile_General>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
        </Profile_General>
        <Profile_PlanetApproach>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <CrossFadeCascadesDistance>300.0</CrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>1000.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
        </Profile_PlanetApproach>
        <Profile_PlanetSurface>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>900.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000025</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>5.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>10.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>7.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>40.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>80.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>160.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>450.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>1500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
        </Profile_PlanetSurface>
        <Profile_StationInterior>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>1</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>0.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>false</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>1470.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
        </Profile_StationInterior>
        <Profile_AsteroidField>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12500.000000</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <AsteroidShadowsEnabled>1</AsteroidShadowsEnabled>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
        </Profile_AsteroidField>

And the GraphicsConfiguration.xml to drop into the game should be attached to this post.

Note: There is very roughly a 10% frame rate hit in GPU limited scenarios with these changes vs. the stock Ultra shadow quality.
 

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Morbad

Morbad
Was doing some experimenting and discovered what that filter setting of "3" is actually doing; enabling the EVSM shadows which seem to have a gaussian blur filter, which is the softness I was noticing before. Additionally, the filter kernel setting only seems to apply to the standard shadow maps, so can't be used to tune the EVSMs, but the EVSMs render at half resolution by default, and this can be changed to full res, which eliminates any concerns I had about lost details.

I also noticed an issue with my planet surface (foot and SRV) shadows that I could not correct with the standard maps. So...

Another update:
  • Enabled EVSM shadows at full resolution for both Profile_PlanetApproach and Profile_PlanetSurface.
  • Set the number of interior cascades for Profile_PlanetSurface to "3".

I also reintroduced the EVSMCascadeFullRes variable to all profiles, even where I don't have them enabled, for future testing. Likewise, variables that only apply to the non-EVSM cascades were left intact, so EVSM can be easily disabled, if necessary.

XML: 
        <Profile_General>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_General>
        <Profile_PlanetApproach>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <CrossFadeCascadesDistance>300.0</CrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>1000.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_PlanetApproach>
        <Profile_PlanetSurface>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <NumInteriorFrustums>3</NumInteriorFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>900.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000025</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>5.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>10.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>7.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>40.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>80.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>160.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>450.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>1500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_PlanetSurface>
        <Profile_StationInterior>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>1</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>0.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>false</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>1470.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_StationInterior>
        <Profile_AsteroidField>
            <SliceSize>8192</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>1.5</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12500.000000</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>2.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <AsteroidShadowsEnabled>1</AsteroidShadowsEnabled>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_AsteroidField>
 

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quackinthebush

Q
Hey Morbad, thanks for your work on this. I loaded it up and while the shadows look great, I'm getting a lot of flicker and artifacts. Flicker mostly in my cockpit, but lots of odd square patterned lines on planet surfaces. Just FYI. Also, what specifically does increasing the LOD value to 1.999999 do?
 

Morbad

Morbad
quackinthebush said:
I loaded it up and while the shadows look great, I'm getting a lot of flicker and artifacts. Flicker mostly in my cockpit, but lots of odd square patterned lines on planet surfaces. Just FYI.
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Can you show some examples? Reducing flicker, shadow acne, and related artifacting was one of my major motivations for making these modification in the first place. If I've messed up an update, I'd like to get it fixed as quickly as possible.

I have been primarily focusing on planet based content with Odyssey, so it's entirely possible I've overlooked an issue elsewhere.

quackinthebush said:
Also, what specifically does increasing the LOD value to 1.999999 do?
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It is (or was) the maximum value for the "Model Draw Distance" that will take. The in-game slider ends at 1.0, but setting 1.99999 retains details further out, and more geometry detail also helps shadows look more stable. Even if it's still working, the difference should be quite subtle.
 

Morbad

Morbad
@quackinthebush I think I may have found what you were refering to. Uploading a video now so you can confirm.

Edit:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLVl1CnMyVw

Is that some of what you're referring to?

Looks like I may have to enable EVSM for all profiles to resolve the shimmer edge effect I'm seeing...changing the texel stability setting on filter quality "2" breaks other aspects of shadows and I have no more room to insert extra cascades to mitigate the effect with brute force.
 
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Morbad

Morbad
Enabling EVSM didn't pan out, due problems with haloing and depth biases, but increasing slice size back to 16384 and increasing the kernel filter size to 3.0 did mitigate the shimmering to a fair degree. It's not perfect, but the only way I see to improve it further is to use more frustums for the very short range shadows, which costs a lot of detail at longer ranges, or to further increase the filter kernel size, which makes shadows overly soft.

I may also go back and try to disable EVSM again for the planet approach and surface profiles, if I can resolve the issues that caused me to use them in the first place, but this seems unlikely for Profile_PlanetApproach.

Some of the key issues with EVSM:
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Anyway, v6, and the changelog:
  • Increased all slice sizes back to 16384.
  • Set FilterKernelSize to 3.0 for all frustums in all profiles.


XML: 
        <Profile_General>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_General>
        <Profile_PlanetApproach>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <CrossFadeCascadesDistance>300.0</CrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>1000.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00015</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_PlanetApproach>
        <Profile_PlanetSurface>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <NumInteriorFrustums>3</NumInteriorFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>3</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>900.0</LastCrossFadeCascadesDistance>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000025</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>5.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>10.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.00005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>7.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>40.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>80.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>160.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>450.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>1500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_PlanetSurface>
        <Profile_StationInterior>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>1</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>0.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>false</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>1470.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.0003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.0003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>0</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_StationInterior>
        <Profile_AsteroidField>
            <SliceSize>16384</SliceSize>
            <NumFrustums>9</NumFrustums>
            <FilterQuality>2</FilterQuality>
            <Fade>1.0</Fade>
            <CrossFadeCascades>true</CrossFadeCascades>
            <AdaptiveCascades>false</AdaptiveCascades>
            <NearClipBias>1.0</NearClipBias>
            <FrustumCockpit>
                <DepthBias>0.000075</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
            </FrustumCockpit>
            <Frustum0>
                <EndDistance>20.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum0>
            <Frustum1>
                <EndDistance>50.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>6.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum1>
            <Frustum2>
                <EndDistance>125.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.0005</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>5.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum2>
            <Frustum3>
                <EndDistance>312.5</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.001</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>4.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum3>
            <Frustum4>
                <EndDistance>625.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.002</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum4>
            <Frustum5>
                <EndDistance>1250.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum5>
            <Frustum6>
                <EndDistance>2500.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>3.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum6>
            <Frustum7>
                <EndDistance>5000.0</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.5</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum7>
            <Frustum8>
                <EndDistance>12500.000000</EndDistance>
                <ShaderBias>0.003</ShaderBias>
                <ShaderSlopeBias>0.003</ShaderSlopeBias>
                <DepthBias>0.003</DepthBias>
                <DepthSlopeBias>2.0</DepthSlopeBias>
                <FilterKernelSize>3.0</FilterKernelSize>
                <TexelStability>2</TexelStability>
            </Frustum8>
            <AsteroidShadowsEnabled>1</AsteroidShadowsEnabled>
            <FogShadowMapsEnabled>1</FogShadowMapsEnabled>
            <EVSMCascadeFullRes>true</EVSMCascadeFullRes>
        </Profile_AsteroidField>

Again, this replaces the LOW quality setting in the attached file.

More changes to come, but try these and let me know about any specific issues you encounter.
 

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quackinthebush

Q
Hey Morbad, sorry I'm on PST, didn't see your posts till now. The video you showed has the shimmer/flicker, but I was also seeing geometric artifacts on Odyssey planet surfaces, like seams in the texture with a series of black squares. I'm not at my computer so can't take a shot but possibly later.
 

Morbad

Morbad
quackinthebush said:
Hey Morbad, sorry I'm on PST, didn't see your posts till now. The video you showed has the shimmer/flicker, but I was also seeing geometric artifacts on Odyssey planet surfaces, like seams in the texture with a series of black squares. I'm not at my computer so can't take a shot but possibly later.
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Location and angle of sun will be useful in diagnosing such issues.
 

Morbad

Morbad
I've come to realize that some of the apparent issues with the Profile_PlanetApproach shadows that have been a thorn in my side since Odyssey are due to the Terrain Material and Terrain Sampler quality settings.

Next update will probably dump EVSM (which effectively conceals some of these issues, but introduces others) again and feature adjustments to some of the terrain presets.
 
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