Shinrarta Dezhra?

[JeffRyan]

I just took the original quotation to mean that most races name their world in some mundane way that's almost accidental (Earth=Ground). But the name of the planet of the founders was delibrately chosen to mean something special.

 

[Jack Schitt]

most races name their world in some mundane way that's almost accidental (Earth=Ground)

It's always amused me that this is never the problem it should be in SF first contact scenarios, especially when magical tech like the universal translator is in play.

"Our planet is called Earth."
"Amazing! So is ours!"​

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

But the name of the planet of the founders

System .. and thanks for the kind words.

Will update once FD do .. which might be a while as they like to be meticulous about things

 

[Philip Coutts]

Anyone like dogs and can translate this:

http://www.goldobafs.com/index.php/koirat/entiset-omat-ja-vierailevat-tahdet/dezhra-van-heet-libbeke

Maybe it's named after Liqua's dogs, although there's only Dezhra and no Shinrarta?

 

[Majere]

I get very little time at the moment to poke around here and so missed this completely.

When I saw the title I thought it was going to be a discussion on an Iain M. Banks tribute. I don't think I can give much higher praise than that.

Good name Liqua, although I confess to be completely flummoxed about who the Founder's are and what their system is for.

 

[Captain N]

The only problem with it being a secret organisation is the gold decals. It's not a particularly discrete way of showing your membership. Though I suppose it might be something like the Bilderberg group where most the participants are known but what they discuss isn't.

Indeed. In the KS FAQ, they are only described as a secretive group, that's not the same as being secret.

“The Elite” are a secretive group of intrepid pilots. Throughout human space, there are a great many people that have been helped by “The Elite” over the years, and because of this “The Elite” are treated well, wherever they go. Whether it be discounts on buying special items or repairs, and the small number of founding members even greater benefits. Other benefits include a greater likelihood of being offered rare missions or opportunities. Membership is offered to pilots who have proven their ability by reaching “Elite” rating within the Pilot’s Federation, but the founding members are not put through such an indignity. All “The Elite” are entitled to display a special silver “Elite” emblem, and the founders a golden one with the word ‘Founder’ beneath it.

It sounds like people in general in the universe are very well aware who "The Elite" are or why they should be given special treatment.

And although the description refers to the Pilot's Federation, nothing implies it's synonymous with "The Elite", and the "Elite" pilot rating in turn is explicitly stated to be something different, as it only qualifies you to be offered membership in "The Elite".

 

[Keeval]

I just took the original quotation to mean that most races name their world in some mundane way that's almost accidental (Earth=Ground). But the name of the planet of the founders was delibrately chosen to mean something special.

Yes - that is how I took it as well.

 

[Praevarus]

Is it spelled correctly?

 

[Cody]

Is it spelled correctly?

Shinrarta Dezhra? Yes!

 

[Alien]

Is it spelled correctly?

No, Liqua spelled it wrong. The correct way to spell it is "Alien's Planet"

 

[Faerie]

I like the name. It sounds mysterious, exotic, luxurious, exclusive, & like the kind of place who's bars serve an expensive & exquisitely prepared absynthe. I may never leave.

 

[deusx_ophc]

it sounds like a system full of pink rainbowy lasorz to me

i like it !

 

[Raxxla]

I don't believe this is correct, but it's a fun thought theory...

Spoiler

If you change the Z to an S in Shinrarta Dezhra it anagrams out to.. "Shine Radar Trash".. kind of a smack talk phrase to say while your lighting them up with your lasers. I don't believe that's the correct answer, but it's fun to cause rumors. At least that will be my new combat phraze.

 

[JeffRyan]

I don't believe this is correct, but it's a fun thought theory...

Spoiler

If you change the Z to an S in Shinrarta Dezhra it anagrams out to.. "Shine Radar Trash".. kind of a smack talk phrase to say while your lighting them up with your lasers. I don't believe that's the correct answer, but it's fun to cause rumors. At least that will be my new combat phraze.

We have a wi... maybe not.

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

A friend of mine is chief editor of the Oxford Arabic Dictionary, and she doesn't recognise it as meaning anything.

 

[Jaiotu]

The meaning of the name of the Founder's World system still taunts me from time to time so I decided to necro this old thread. As far as I am aware we are still in the dark on what "Shinrarta Dhezhra" means.

I therefore, once again, tossed it into Google Translate. This time I allowed Google to try and detect the language. Google says that it is Japanese.

Here's Google's translation: "It was Shira rakara ←". Yes, the arrow was part of the translation. Not very helpful when the translation is just as obscure as the words being translated. I therefore threw "Shira rakara" at Google Translate.

Google says that this is also Japanese ... only this time Google gave me a purely English translation: "I do not know".

Thanks Google. Exactly where I started. I still don't know

 

[CMDR MERANGO]

It is Esperanto meaning: 'Merango rules supreme.' Aye.

CMIV

 

[Lobstris]

Thanks Google. Exactly where I started. I still don't know

Liqua did explain the meaning of the name a while back, and I've just tried my search-fu on the forums, but alas, it was weak. IIRC the name was a mix of multiple languages including Arabic and Russian. Perhaps the guy will swing by himself and enlighten you?

 

[Jaiotu]

Liqua did explain the meaning of the name a while back, and I've just tried my search-fu on the forums, but alas, it was weak. IIRC the name was a mix of multiple languages including Arabic and Russian. Perhaps the guy will swing by himself and enlighten you?

That would be awesome. I've always been curious about it.

 

[Genar-Hofoen]

The meaning of the name of the Founder's World system still taunts me from time to time so I decided to necro this old thread. As far as I am aware we are still in the dark on what "Shinrarta Dhezhra" means.

I therefore, once again, tossed it into Google Translate. This time I allowed Google to try and detect the language. Google says that it is Japanese.

Here's Google's translation: "It was Shira rakara ←". Yes, the arrow was part of the translation. Not very helpful when the translation is just as obscure as the words being translated. I therefore threw "Shira rakara" at Google Translate.

Google says that this is also Japanese ... only this time Google gave me a purely English translation: "I do not know".

Thanks Google. Exactly where I started. I still don't know

It's not Japanese. My wife is Japanese and I lived in Japan for 6 years. Definitely not from the Japanese language, as even when using Romaji, there is no combination of '..ez..' , '..zh..'. It's just not there - unless of course there has been an error in converting from 'native' Japanese into romaji.

I suspect it's not from any particular language, that it's just some made-up name, and that the meaning was defined by the creator and shared with this limited number of people, or, if it is from some language, it might be from some European one, taking into account the Dezhra. Something which uses h's and z's in it. Hungarian?

Lastly, seems a lot of people like the name. I'm not its biggest fan, not that that matters.

EDIT: ninja'd whilst writing this post - new information and apparently it has already been explained but so far no link to a post with such

EDIT II : post following mine has the explanation. I was close with Hungarian, but only half, it seems