More than once on these forums I have seen someone mentioning that they play Elite with their kids. They drive the ship, the kids join in the experience and maybe do some easy bits.
Ship naming filter at it again
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Why is there no global 'offensive language' filter that covers everything?
dayrth
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British, and you might want to read through again. Free speech and censorship mentioned on page 1.
dayrth
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There is. It's the switch labelled 'Off'.
No, in game that once flipped that covers ship names, messages etc? Most of my ships are censored and its quite annoying.
yeah, I wouldn't mind the filter if I could turn it off the same way as I can turn off the chat one, but I think that was added due to the outcry when people couldn't say the word "cockpit" in a flight sim.
Currently I can't have a name of a punk rock band and my wifes name as a ship name in ED because of the younglings. Its not even offensive, but Lord PEGI of the Seven denies me.
Can I say peg? Thats rude too apparently.
How's about instead of ''cucumber'' you use ''Longgreensaladvegetable''.... it would (a.) get past the stupid filter (b.) be unique... if somewhat perplexing... ahh problem...too many letters.
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How's about instead of ''cucumber'' you use ''Longgreensaladvegetable''.... it would (a.) get past the stupid filter (b.) be unique... if somewhat perplexing... ahh problem...too many letters.
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I still prefer "Massive Gerkin".
Although if we refer back to the OP, this is a Krait Mk II. It looks nothing like a cucumber. It shoudl be called "Lettuce Leaf".
Ship name-plates is where a filter switch would fail. Text in the HUD can be filtered, but name-plates may be pre-rendered pixels.
And then you save up Arx to buy a name-plate for your ship. When you finally get it you find that it doesn't work because your ship name was accepted (because it could be filtered in the HUD) but some part of it is rude in Polish so it must not be rendered.
Or alternatively your kids are watching you taking part in DW3 and you land next to a ship with an offensive name
They've got to either do the whole thing, or nothing. Any halfway measures would just create more complaints.
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I have many a real firing gun but unfortunately there are even rules about just where I can point them.....
But you could give then 'manly' names...I have many a real firing gun but unfortunately there are even rules about just where I can point them.....
At least half of the issue with ship names appear to be testosterone driven
I would first like to see the official Polish translation (which is another broken promise after all these years) than covering our language in profanity filter thankyouverymuch
Not that I personally care, but a lot of people on the polish forum did. Pertaining to the demographic of this forum, not everybody who is playing today was young/lucky enough to be able to learn English normally while we were under shadow Soviet occupation.Also IDK why do you hang to the "pre-rendered" thing because text on the nameplate can be changed freely, so it's not like it's calculated on FDev's servers, it is rather sent to the clients with json of ship's params to render. There is nothing "magical" about nameplates other that them being paywalled. It's just basic rendering of text in 3d space, nothing needing pre-rendering.
I don't know why you came to the conclusion, I am against this filter. While I personally don't need it, I understand the need for it. That said, between your example and OPs example, there are simple and clear distinctions to it. Cucumber is a regular word, Suckmy____baby is clearly not. So why are regular words being scanned for parts that are on the filter list, even though their spelling is correct?
Sigh, because humans are vile creatures that's why. Humans also "be lazy". These two things converge here. How it should be done is: a) more lax filter considering word boundaries b) report + swift ban function for offenders - might as well be shadowban where their ship name doesn't display or is changed to something like "Lil' Fluffy Kitten or something other overflowing with cuteness ;-)
In Overwatch if you try to type "gg ez" which is a toxic way of saying "you suck", your character says something like this: “C’mon, Mom! One more game before you tuck me in! Oops mistell”. And it's always fun to watch
It is impossible for automatic filters to tell reliably, 100% of the time, whether a word is innocent or naughty. Take my example above:
If I called my ship the Birmingham Awe, it wouldn't get a second glance. That's a good and reasonable name for a ship.
There's a region of London called Cockfosters. It's got a London Underground station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockfosters It's perfectly innocent. So Pride of Cockfosters would be a safe name for a ship. It might elicit a few giggles now and again.
But then look at the word "foster".
So if I was to name a ship Cockfosters Awe, it is no longer innocent. There's no automatic process that can detect the difference between that and Birmingham Awe, because computers cannot understand the meaning of "foster".
Frontier cannot allow a single rude name to slip through the filters. Therefore they catch everything. If someone cares enough about their safe choice that has been caught, then they can appeal and the name can be added to the whitelist by a human being -- someone who can look at the whole name and what it means.
If I called my ship the Birmingham Awe, it wouldn't get a second glance. That's a good and reasonable name for a ship.
There's a region of London called Cockfosters. It's got a London Underground station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockfosters It's perfectly innocent. So Pride of Cockfosters would be a safe name for a ship. It might elicit a few giggles now and again.
But then look at the word "foster".
So if I was to name a ship Cockfosters Awe, it is no longer innocent. There's no automatic process that can detect the difference between that and Birmingham Awe, because computers cannot understand the meaning of "foster".
Frontier cannot allow a single rude name to slip through the filters. Therefore they catch everything. If someone cares enough about their safe choice that has been caught, then they can appeal and the name can be added to the whitelist by a human being -- someone who can look at the whole name and what it means.
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Filter looks for specific combinations of letters. If you could get around it by putting other letters around it, people would just put o's or x's around it like they're making an AOL screen name.
The fact that somebody in this thread launched into a rant about free speech is embarrassing. It's a video game ship name. Being prevented because of a text filter. It's not a war crime.
The forums filtered "frig" on me, ironically. Frig.
The fact that somebody in this thread launched into a rant about free speech is embarrassing. It's a video game ship name. Being prevented because of a text filter. It's not a war crime.
The forums filtered "frig" on me, ironically. Frig.
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I would also point out that the first two three-letter parts of cucumber can be considered rude and the last does have a meaning in various languages including English (borrowed from Hindi). A computer could find them all. What it could not do is to determine whether "wronged-husband semen fruit" had a meaning or whether a rational human would draw that meaning from those words.
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Usually people would determine what is an acceptable ratio of false positives and false negatives.
Not a single one must slip through? Imho rating Elite for 7 y.o.s is ridiculous anyway. We have slavery, drugs, murder, toggle-able chat, but ship names that could make you giggle are a no-go?