Small, easy changes for 1.7 (My suggestions list, v4.0)
- Thread starter Bearcat9948
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I know this is a small thing, but now that we've got vista points from Planet Coaster, we could get for those red barriers which would prevent guests from walking/clipping through objects even if they were put on the path. You can sink them into the ground and it still works. This would open so much creativity, and it would take away some of the frustrations with the path. Please Frontier, make it happen.
Thanks Iben, I'll remove that oneRegarding this, you can just select a terrain brush and then in the terraforming tab use "selected". Then it will use your currently selected terrain slot.
Didn't know that skin was completely removed, but I've added it to the list
Added!
I also added an idea I thought of last night to have the ability to add a kerb or railing on only on side of a path, so you can choose if you want it on the left or right side, or both.
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Since the CMs apparently don't view the subreddit that much, I'll have to voice my suggestions here too.
- The Bactrian camels need a model update in general. Right now they're basically a dromedary with 2 humps. the head in particular is a clear giveaway about this
- Real eggs would be highly appreciated too. Kinda breaks the immersion when egg-laying reptiles give live birth. They could just have the mother lay down and then spawn the egg underneath them.
- I'd also like to add the ability for the use of all terrain types in any Sandbox map. It's pretty unfortunate that we can't mix and match different soils or grasses to have the upmost creative freedom.
- In the same spirit, those toxic waste barrels from the Campaign would be fun additions to Sandbox Mode
- The toy usage between animals is pretty inconsistent
- All relevant animals should use both types of termite mounds. Currently anteaters cannot use artifical termite mounds while aardvarks, bonobos, chimpanzees, and pangolins can't use natural termite mounds
- All canids and bears should use the water pool,
- More cats and bears should use the hammock (snow leopards, jaguars, Formosan back bears, and giant pandas in particular)
- All canids should use the water jet and tug rope
- More bears should use the foraging wall
- Polar bears should use the blood scent marker over the herb scent marker, as they are hypercarnivores unlike other bear species
There's 4 different species of babirusa. Before release, it was considered to be the North Sulawesi species, but the more technical stuff like range and bionomial are those of the Buru species.
Almost everything in the Zoopedia, including the binomial name and description, is about Babyrousa celebensis, the North Sulawesi Babirusa, so that's clearly the species its intended to be. The only discrepancy is the distribution map, which is of B. babyrussa, the Buru Babirusa. As I said in my thread on the topic, I think this mistake may have come about given all babirusa species used to be grouped under B. babyrussa.
Definitely agree that the North Sulawesi Babirusa should be given its proper common name, I don't know why they didn't honestly. There's no other species in the game just given the common name of its whole genus.
Thank you for posting here! Per your suggestions:
- I'm sorta trying to stay away from big model changes for base game animals atm, beyond simple resizing. For now that is. At some point I'll be adding a section specifying errors in all of the base game animals, and I'll definitely put your input with the camel on there.
- Real eggs aren't ever going to happen per the CMs
- The terrain thing is actually coming at some point, that's why it's not on the list. LeafProductions has a YT video about it
- I don't think the bears need the swimming pool since most are capable of deep diving now.
The sample billboard for the babirusa uses B. babyrussa instead of B. celebensis. It's clear there was a lot of miscommunication when Frontier was researching this animal.
Huh, that's odd. I've noticed before that the billboard for the Bactrian Camel lists Camelus ferus rather than C. bactrianus like in the Zoopedia, so it's happened before. The Bactrian is even weirder though because while the babirusa model is clearly B. celebensis (unlike the other species, the Buru Babirusa is actually significantly hairy), the model of the camel is pretty clearly based off C. ferus rather than C. bactrianus.The sample billboard for the babirusa uses B. babyrussa instead of B. celebensis. It's clear there was a lot of miscommunication when Frontier was researching this animal.
Thank you, you basically explained what I meant
Really good list, but the one thing I would object to is desert for bison. As the sources suggest, deserts are way too marginal for bison to be added. What bison lack right now is taiga and tundra. Pronghorn and jaguar on the other hand would definitely benefit from the desert biome tag.
I still believe they should get it because of historical range, same reasoning as the jaguar. Even though they're currently recovering at a much faster rate in desert areas thanks to better conservation efforts. I may also be adding taiga biomes are well. Tundra on the other hand is highly debatable so I'm not sure about that yet.
The source you posted (IUCN) categorizes deserts as marginal, but tundra as suitable. Same with ADW: "semi-deserts if grazing is suitable". Bison are found in both alpine and polar tundra of Alaska, so it is nowhere debatable. Their range overlaps entirely with the Dall sheep. Deserts on the other hand are pretty marginal as both sources explain. If bison are to receive the desert tag, then almost every African savanna animal should. It would change the way biomes are handled in the game.
Here is a better IUCN source which clearly details historic range in desert areas. I added this to the original post.
AFAIK, the only plains bison in Eurasia and Alaska tundras are introduced animals, meaning they do not have historic presence there. Now, I said this is highly debatable, because there is new evidence that suggests plains bison are much more closely related to the ancient steppe bison than previously thought, but I don't know enough about that subject, and when I know I'm not properly informed, I try not to comment or take a side one way or another.
Plus there's the fact that in-game bison are modelled after the plains bison. Tundra would only apply to wood bison so I don't mind it being excluded. I was just interpreting the sources you shared.
Btw, the lowland interior meadows of Alaska mentioned in the new source = tundra grasslands of the IUCN Red List page I think.
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I think that making the Bactrian camel as a walkthrough habitat animal might be good too.
It appears to be the domestic kind and not the wild type. Along with this, I know that people can interact with camels in person at zoos or petting zoos (might potentially be wrong about this).
It appears to be the domestic kind and not the wild type. Along with this, I know that people can interact with camels in person at zoos or petting zoos (might potentially be wrong about this).
First of all, welcome to the forums! And second, since this seems like it is in fact intended to be the domesticated camel, I think it makes sense to add it
Thank you! I was quite hesitant to join the forums before, but I feel quite confident about it now.
