Smuggling missions now pointless.

Ok, just got a mission for 9 million Elite and see plenty of Low rank ones above 1 million. Can provide screen shots before anyone cry's troll..

Forget Sothis, filter the gal map for small outposts on the fringes, that's what I've been doing for the last few day's... Be sure to bring back cargo to get allied
 
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If only FD would address the whole "is switching between open and solo an exploit" question... oh wait..

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I have been looking for alternatives yesterday, but found nothing (Tycoon trader). Then again, has there been a word about an actual fix? All I (and we?) know is that all (or most) smuggling missions went away, and nothing was returned, but if 'this' is the actual fix, no idea...

It might well be, they are returned to us in another form, another frequency, other values and what not, so looking for them now would be a waste of energy. The same goes for creating complaining threads about it :p

Or has there been an official word that I missed?
 
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I have been looking for alternatives yesterday, but found nothing (Tycoon trader). Then again, has there been a word about an actual fix? All I (and we?) know is that all (or most) smuggling missions went away, and nothing was returned, but if 'this' is the actual fix, no idea...

It might well be, they are returned to us in another form, another frequency, other values and what not, so looking for them now would be a waste of energy. The same goes for creating complaining threads about it :p

Or has there been an official word that I missed?

I think the real fix will come when we get a patch.. As I 've stated above, am still seeing missions up to 9 million for Elite rank, 1 or 2 million average for lower ranks
 
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I'm about to make you look very stupid... Stand by while I upload something..

Edit - Please check the ingame date and time of the screenshot.. spawns have been reduced, but you can still get good money payouts if you wait

I am seeing 1 or 2 big payouts every 10 minutes, the rest are lower ranks up to 1.8 million, plenty to pick from if you have a big enough hold... It's balanced much better now.

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Now look, THIS is for an already ELITE-Trading pilot (and I'm sure that payout is only for such),
and you will get this every... what?.... 1-2 hours?!
the problem with the former uber payout was exactly that, the elite and tyconn and allied traders got these hugh uber missions,
anybody else got only good, yes very good, missions, but way below such sums!

BOA... third run finished...
that was a time sink!! haven't had so much adrenaline produced since... don't know...

But as a non-elite, non-allied, not-even-tycoon player... only small budget ;-) missions were available:
18 missions, 83 cargo...
total time: travel to sothis: 0,5 hrs, mission aquiring 1,5 hrs, delivering exactly 3 hrs = 5 hrs.
many dozends of interupts, a few fines (running cold does not help always!) - once I got chased 8 times in a range of 20ls around the station - and pirates and police worked together there... I. simply. couldn't. get. to. that. damn. landing. pad...

This run (running costs: fuel, fines, ammo already substracted): 65,376 Mill (so 13 mill/hrs, a good but NOT OP income in my eyes)

I can't sit anymore now...
no idea how some can aquire 430 millions or get this in 2 hrs done... ;-)

!! BUT !! SO. MUCH. FUN. !!

that was my best run.
shall we talk about my actual outcome?

80 ton, 17 target systems, 25 missions, 4,5 hrs, 21 mill cr.
And I'm Tycoon already.

Don't think I'll do that too often because this IS stressful and trading is WAY MORE lucrative if you're not elite rank.
I also got a very bad route planned, got 17 brown dwarfs in a row (had to go to economic route the last 6 hopps)

The ONLY thing that was very good, is that I learned how to evade and to sneak in (all 3 latest runs I weren't scanned or caught)
 
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I think the real fix will come when we get a patch.. As I 've stated above, am still seeing missions up to 9 million for Elite rank, 1 or 2 million average for lower ranks

I saw those too yesterday, but for lower ranks nothing. The other 1 million missions are 'just' long range cargo missions, I haven't seen any smuggling mission. (the once with a skull and dealing with illegal goods).
 
So true, if people actually got out there and hunted for good remote routes instead of crying, we wouldn't have topics claiming smuggling is pointless.

Yet another person who completely misses the point of my OP, getting really sick and tired of saying it yet again. I DIDNT GO TO ING SOTHIS!!!!! I was 400 LY away in a nice little out of the way system doing low end smuggling missions. I was earning 1-2 mil an hour (something I can do farming sites but guess what it gets ing boring).It was a "nice,fun" alternative, I had built up allied standing with the local companies and was running jobs for them. Now because of the knee jerk reaction because of the whiners all those missions are gone and I'm left running cargo runs that are about as interesting and fun as flicking your balls with a cactus.
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I hunted for and found a nice route I wasn't greedy I was having fun but according to some on here you can only have fun in Elite as long as you are
a: enjoying the game for what it is (whatever that means)
b: not earning more that someone else is doing whatever they are doing.
c: not having too much fun or an alternative way of putting it is being as bored as everyone else is but wont admit it.
d: if the 4000th star/kill/cargo/trade you have seen/done doesn't fill you with the same wonder as the first then Elite "isn't the game for you" because your a "instant gratification scrub,pubbie,nub,noob" go play CQC type.
 
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Now look, THIS is for an already ELITE-Trading pilot (and I'm sure that payout is only for such),
and you will get this every... what?.... 1-2 hours?!
the problem with the former uber payout was exactly that, the elite and tyconn and allied traders got these hugh uber missions,
anybody else got only good, yes very good, missions, but way below such sums!
Yes of course 6 to 9 million is Elite, as it should be. I am seeing one appear every refesh not every 1 or 2 hours. Each refresh spawns plenty of lower rank missions. just saw one for Merchant rank for over a million.. What's wrong with stacking 15 low rank missions around the 1 million range? You are still making more money than a bulk trader in a T9

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Yet another person who completely misses the point of my OP, getting really sick and tired of saying it yet again. I DIDNT GO TO ING SOTHIS!!!!! I was 400 LY away in a nice little out of the way system doing low end smuggling missions. I was earning 1-2 mil an hour (something I can do farming sites but guess what it gets ing boring). was a nice alternative, I had built up allied standing with the local companies and was runs jobs for them. Now because of the knee jerk reaction because of the whiners all those missions are gone and I'm left running cargo runs that are about as interesting as site farming.

Well then obviously your little corner of the galaxy was not producing the missions you require.. Adapt... Where I am at the moment you would have earned 2 million for 3 tonnes of cargo if you had an average trade rank
 
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Smuggling still pays more than it ever did in 1.3, you've just become numb to the numbers because they were so outrageous for a week straight.

But of course you will always get the whiners that complain about not having enough time to get a Conda. Well guess what, thats how the game has always been, its always taken long to progress. Maybe you should look into playing other games (that you have time for), or try out CQC.. it was designed for the instant gratification crowd that doesnt have the time and patience to earn what they want.

Well you like to insult don't you? You sure he’s the whiner when there’s a 40 page whine thread about nerfing the rares run.
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Well how about this. For 'time and patience' I read 'no life and obsessive'.
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Every time earning credits becomes fun in this game instead of a long grind the whiners come out and demand it be nerfed. These are usually the people who played since beta and took advantage of no wipe on launch and the great rares and seeking luxuries and now have their billions.
If people want to keep this game restricted to those than can and want to invest 30 + hours a week Elite will remain an obscure niche game where the only time you see other players is in gold rushes like Sothis.
 
Yet another person who completely misses the point of my OP, getting really sick and tired of saying it yet again. I DIDNT GO TO ING SOTHIS!!!!! I was 400 LY away in a nice little out of the way system doing low end smuggling missions. I was earning 1-2 mil an hour (something I can do farming sites but guess what it gets ing boring). was a nice alternative, I had built up allied standing with the local companies and was runs jobs for them. Now because of the knee jerk reaction because of the whiners all those missions are gone and I'm left running cargo runs that are about as interesting as site farming.

And you know for a fact that it was because some, (rightfully), questioned the validity and balance of the Sothis gold rush that Frontier acted do you? It is inconceivable to you that Frontier realised they had messed up and just fixed it?, I'l say it again for the hard of understanding, those saying these missions were out of kilter were not 'whining' - just pointing out the bloody obvious, there is whining going on but it is not from those who questioned the balance. It is a shame if your missions in your area suffered too, but to be honest, from what I've seen, the smuggling missions of old seem about the same, there are still some big payers, but they are rarer, which is how it should be.
 
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Yes of course 6 to 9 million is Elite, as it should be. I am seeing one appear every refesh not every 1 or 2 hours. Each refresh spawns plenty of lower rank missions. just saw one for Merchant rank for over a million.. What's wrong with stacking 15 low rank missions around the 1 million range? You are still making more money than a bulk trader in a T9

so you say my actual 4-5 mill cr per hr smuggling run with 30+ interdictions to evade and high adrenaline high speed landing manoevers do pay more that T-9 Trading? Don't joke yourself please ;-)

It's fun, don't get me wrong, I didn't have such much fun since Beta!
But for sure this will not be my income way of choice because reward vs. risk is WAY BELOW standard stupid A<->B Trading now.
We're talking Non-Elite here.

Well you like to insult don't you? You sure he’s the whiner when there’s a 40 page whine thread about nerfing the rares run.
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Well how about this. For 'time and patience' I read 'no life and obsessive'.
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Every time earning credits becomes fun in this game instead of a long grind the whiners come out and demand it be nerfed. These are usually the people who played since beta and took advantage of no wipe on launch and the great rares and seeking luxuries and now have their billions.
If people want to keep this game restricted to those than can and want to invest 30 + hours a week Elite will remain an obscure niche game where the only time you see other players is in gold rushes like Sothis.

sadly true
 
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so you say my actual 4-5 mill cr per hr smuggling run with 30+ interdictions to evade and high adrenaline high speed landing manoevers do pay more that T-9 Trading? Don't joke yourself please ;-)

Seriously mate, if you are only pulling 4/5 million an hour since the reduction then the issue is down to you. Where I am docked you can make much more than that at a lower rank. What ship are you flying?

I've just seen 1.8 million dealer rank, 5 million for broker..
 
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Thx for ruining that single part in this game i actually totally loved. Why is Frontier listening to this vocal minority so much? They don't represent the majority. Who says that everything must be optimal balanced like everything else that is the same in this galaxy? It makes sense that some places are way more booming than others. Boring people only want boring things.
 
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Someone might argue that ED's just that, intentionally refusing to cater to casual masses (which is a good thing, IMO).

I can understand that, nothing wrong with wanting something different, but I don't think the investors would. They're trying to be both which is the problem.
 
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Seriously mate, if you are only pulling 4/5 million an hour since the reduction then the issue is down to you. Where I am docked you can make much more than that at a lower rank. What ship are you flying?

I've just seen 1.8 million dealer rank, 5 million for broker..

How do you keep getting all these missions cropping up? I've been in and out of Sothis all morning and not a jot - saying that a 100k Ceos smuggling one is in. I've logged out/in to reinstance myself and nothing - no smuggling/trading missions at all.
Guess you're one of the lucky ones :)

Back to shipping the Sothis Gold for me
 
Thx for ruining that single part in this game i actually totally loved. Why is Frontier listening to this vocal minority so much? They don't represent the majority. Who says that everything must be optimal balanced like everything else that is the same in this galaxy? It makes sense that some places are way more booming than others. Boring people only want boring things.
Because the payouts and frequency of these missions were a load of crap.

If the missions still occur, but less frequent, I wouldn't say it's ruined. It's just more balanced.
 
Seriously mate, if you are only pulling 4/5 million an hour since the reduction then the issue is down to you. Where I am docked you can make much more than that at a lower rank. What ship are you flying?

I can fly up to trading-conda IF I would like to (I don't like conda so its only a stripped leftover from some CG rewards in may I think),
normally I fly FAS (combat), Python (trading) and now ASP (smuggling), thats the 80 t comes from.
And no, I'm only getting 0,8-1,2 mill for 2-8 t. seldom some >2 and even more rare up to 4 mill for 10++ t.
 
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