So far a waste of money

because of the gamepad, the game is a pain in the a.. without hotas

I agree, I've shut off the ds4 and removed it entirely, set all preferences to hotas 4, reconfigured only a couple one of which puts a square dot in the center of you windscreen. Really make it easier to go where you think your aiming. With a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT more experience, recon I'll turn it off later. The other was the yaw turning issue, I turned it off, landing and general flying is considerably easier. I feel as if I have more control, there fore I apparently do.
 
I HIGHLY recommend to go through this file:

http://hosting.zaonce.net/elite/website/assets/English-PlayersGuide_v2.00-Horizons.pdf

I am a newbie by mself, but reading this just opened my eyes regarding a lot of unexplained things and features in ED!

That manual is a little out of date (2.00 was released Dec 2015). Latest PC and Xbox versions (for 2.3) can be found on home page here: https://community.elitedangerous.com/en ...but FD where is the PS4-dedicated manual?
 
First off it's a proper game, no hand holding, you get shown the basics if you want to play through them and that's it, after that the galaxy is yours to do whatever you want in (once you've worked your way up obviously) if you're stuck with something there's plenty of help on here and loads of videos on youtube etc without kicking off over it.

You said "wont enter the spacestation" so I take it you were trying to land in a station that you have to fly into? if that's the case try lining up with the slot about 1km out, keep your speed down so you can match the rotation as you get close then fly in, the only thing I can think of that stops you flying in is the rails sticking out from the slot which you can see on this pic, maybe you've approached the station from the wrong side and have flown around very close to it then when you've found the slot you've not been far enough out to avoid the rails? one thing to remember is when you're approaching a station in super cruise the hologram on your dashboard is the way the station is facing relative to you, the slot should always be facing the planet so sometimes you need to fly past and change the angle you approach from, if you can see the slot on the hologram you'll be lined up with it when you drop out of SC.

If it was an outpost you were trying to land on (big floating platform that you don't fly into) then you need to make sure you're facing the right way, there should be a crane type thing at the side of the pad, this should always be on the right hand side, also you can check the hologram of your ship if you're low enough for it to appear to see which way you're facing.
 
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This came frustrates the hell out of me. That you have to figure out everything yourself is barely acceptable, but going on a long, but high paying mission only to find out the ship wont dock, AT ALL? Asked docking permission, check. Landing gear out, check. Hmmm...wont enter the spacestation, why? Flew away and retried, still no docking. After trying this 4 times i crashed the damn thing into the spacestation just to find out i couldnt finish the mission anymore. Had this twice already. If gaming becomes an activity where seemingly simple activities becomes a hastle without reason, fine. But if the mechancs do not properly work, then i becomes unacceptable

There are 10yr old kids that have no issue playing the game, there is even such a young lad that make elite youtube vids. Now take a breath and use your loaf (brain).
 
It all depends on the individual, my memory isn't as good as when I was young, trying to learn all of the botton placements in addition to there various functions is one thing, trying to memorize them is another. I wish there was a print out of just what the various button due by them selves or in combination that one could download and have next to their notes which I would highly recomed to having. I spent an hour falling out of supercruise to far and or two close to be of any use. After an hour of trying, I realize it was the wrong destination. DUH! Typical noob issue, next time I wrote it down.
 
because of the gamepad, the game is a pain in the a.. without hotas

I just cannot agree... I played it on PC a couple years ago, and tried a HOTAS and absoultely hated it. Switched to a gamepad, and whalaa, I could play perfectly fine. And now that it's on the PS4, the game controller is heaven for playing this game. I'v never seen a company wrangle so much goodness out of a controller like FDev has...
 
because of the gamepad, the game is a pain in the a.. without hotas

I was expecting it to be like that after years of using HOTAS on PC but I've been surprised how well it plays with a pad, I can do just about anything with the pad that I can do with a stick, the only thing I wouldn't feel comfortable doing right now is a high speed smuggling entry into a space station to avoid the scan, then there's the fact the SRV is horrible to drive with a stick, on PC I switch to a Xbox pad for driving but that would be a pain in the with the way PS4 needs the pad disconnecting to recognise the HOTAS so I'll probably stick to the pad.
 
Frustrating when it doesn't work yes , learning the concept of controlling your self with in this situation you will have to .
But..... when you dock and you succeed :D yes maaaan
PS: Dock slow you will be faster
 
This came frustrates the hell out of me. That you have to figure out everything yourself is barely acceptable, but going on a long, but high paying mission only to find out the ship wont dock, AT ALL? Asked docking permission, check. Landing gear out, check. Hmmm...wont enter the spacestation, why? Flew away and retried, still no docking. After trying this 4 times i crashed the damn thing into the spacestation just to find out i couldnt finish the mission anymore. Had this twice already. If gaming becomes an activity where seemingly simple activities becomes a hastle without reason, fine. But if the mechancs do not properly work, then i becomes unacceptable


Are you saying that you can't even enter the slot?
That seems weird.

You can even enter the slot without permission, although that might not end well :). The authorities don't like intruders.
 
Well, i am not so much complaining about the steep learning curve. I've played the original Elite long time ago. I do not want autodock f.e. My concern is of technical nature. That in 2 cases it just refuses to dock. Another situation occuring more often now is the refusal of docking procedure. I could fly to another system and try again later, but it shouldnt be like this. Also highly anoying is the performance on the ps4. Loading times, or whatever it is doing when exiting supercruise are terrible
 
Well, i am not so much complaining about the steep learning curve. I've played the original Elite long time ago. I do not want autodock f.e. My concern is of technical nature. That in 2 cases it just refuses to dock. Another situation occuring more often now is the refusal of docking procedure. I could fly to another system and try again later, but it shouldnt be like this. Also highly anoying is the performance on the ps4. Loading times, or whatever it is doing when exiting supercruise are terrible

Not had any problems like that myself and exiting SC/jumping is in line with what I've experienced on PC, if you're getting long loading times then there might be a network issue and could be causing some rubber banding or something that's not letting you enter the station, next time it happens press the share button and save the clip, think it saves the last 15 mins so just cut the bit you need and upload it for us to take a look at.
 
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Well, i am not so much complaining about the steep learning curve. I've played the original Elite long time ago. I do not want autodock f.e. My concern is of technical nature. That in 2 cases it just refuses to dock. Another situation occuring more often now is the refusal of docking procedure. I could fly to another system and try again later, but it shouldnt be like this. Also highly anoying is the performance on the ps4. Loading times, or whatever it is doing when exiting supercruise are terrible

You have to request docking permission.
If you are refused one of two things has occurred.
All pads are occupied(generally only outposts as there are less). Wait or log into solo.
You've upset the station by entering without permission. Wait 30 sec and retry.
When you dock,lower landing gear,pad number needs to be in front of you,your pad number is at the bottom of your hud.
 
Well, i am not so much complaining about the steep learning curve. I've played the original Elite long time ago. I do not want autodock f.e. My concern is of technical nature. That in 2 cases it just refuses to dock. Another situation occuring more often now is the refusal of docking procedure. I could fly to another system and try again later, but it shouldnt be like this. Also highly anoying is the performance on the ps4. Loading times, or whatever it is doing when exiting supercruise are terrible

You have to be within 7.5km to request permission, watch some ObsidianAnt vids, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77IvVXTyr18&t=756s
 
'nuff said.

I have a better alternative for you:
https://www.nomanssky.com/

Hand held planetary tourism that you can't fail.

Enjoy, and make sure that door doesn't hit you too hard on the way out.

I disagree, NMS is not going to hold his hand either. Tis ironic how one grows up not knowing how to play in a sandbox. Such a person grows up to be dependent on everyone else for everything. In my day the playground was the main arena for children to figure out where they fit in the world known to themselves pecking order. And the sandbox is where on learned to apply most of whatever skills they had developed. Today's children aren't allowed in sandboxes, they might get dirty. Thus causing more work for the parent who had to take time out of their busy schedule to bring the rug rat there in the first place.
 
Just a friendly request not to take shots at each other here, please. We have Open Play and CQC for that!

Let's try to help, rather than throwing around snide comments. Thanks!
 
Well, i am not so much complaining about the steep learning curve. I've played the original Elite long time ago. I do not want autodock f.e. My concern is of technical nature. That in 2 cases it just refuses to dock. Another situation occuring more often now is the refusal of docking procedure. I could fly to another system and try again later, but it shouldnt be like this. Also highly anoying is the performance on the ps4. Loading times, or whatever it is doing when exiting supercruise are terrible

"refuses to dock"
- docking permission obtained
- on your pad
- landing gear deployed
- right way round on all three axes (bottom towards the pad, tower in front of you, horizontally parallel to the pad)
- slow enough
- close enough to the pad
- centered on the pad

From other discussions I take it that wiith the PS4 controller, getting the ship parallel to the pad may be a problem since the lateral thrusters are hard to access in the default config, i.e. when you try to slide sideways, you tilt the ship, which is bad...

"refusal of docking procedure" - I guess you mean docking permission
Two reasons for that:
- the place is full
- you're too far out
The first one can happen even with the large stations if there are enough CMDRs and NPCs around, on the smaller stations, it takes only three people to block up all the pads (or one hogging the medium pad). Either wait or switch instances (e.g. to solo). And yes, it _should_ be like this. The capacity of a station is limited.
The second one you _should_ get a notice in your comms that you need to be closer than 7.5 km (easy to miss, though).

As for the performance on the PS4, though - :cool:

But: loading times may be more related to your network connection than hardware performance. Nothing you can do about it - just be glad if you don't get any of the servers disconnected after hanging in the transition for five bl**dy minutes...
 
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