So far a waste of money

Just a friendly request not to take shots at each other here, please. We have Open Play and CQC for that!!

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Just a friendly request not to take shots at each other here, please. We have Open Play and CQC for that!

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You should jump in the CQC discord if you're having trouble. Loads of friendly people and it's easy to arrange a match if there happens to be not enough people generally matchmaking at the time you're trying, regardless of the platform you're on.
 
I spent or I as would like to state wasted 16 hours in the training mode, some like me have had glitches such as I couldn't get the landing gear to operate. No matter what I tried and tried I did.
This morning I deceided to give solo a try, I mean it couldn't be any worse, right. For the past two hours, I've been doing launches, short flight around the area, don't want to get lost, and then docking. I've succesfully done it more than a dozen times. With the exception of almost running out of time once in which I deliberately chose to inform them, I reversed my landing permission, did a go around, requested again and nailed it.

My next endevor is to go further out of sight of the station which is actually on the ground. And try to find my way back and dock succesfull a dozen times. The next endevor will be to leave the planet far enough as to loose my bearings, locate the station and dock a dozen times succesfull. It a progression I can handle, right now. After which I've got to learn how to actually leave the planet and go somewhere else in which case I already know how to locate, requests, dock.

At my age 68, I've learning how to crawl, then hobble, then walk all before trying to run. Little steps are considerable easier to deal with than big steps if ya don't know where the stairs are.

In the previous 16 hours of practice, I got frustrated numerious time, where as I generally smoke a pack a day, yesterday I smoked two packs. I'd try and try, take a break, try and try and take a break. This morning I tried one more time and in the process though I still wasn't able to utilize the landing gear. I figured out why I consitently exited super cruise incorrectly. I was at the wrong destination, DUH! This morning I went to the right one and correctly fell out of supercruise and my landing gear issue is gone. Now I am in solo, never to return to training, it's a waste of time in my book. And following my iternerary, the game is fun and I am able to see progress and it's in the correct direction.

I played NMS for excess of 4,400 hours, with the exception of warping to the next galaxie which would be my 70th. And the fact that my imagination has come to an apprent end. I've maxed out and completed everything there is to do. But, it was a great learning tool, for I've never played in this type of sandbox before.

Helpful hints
Buy a hotas t flight 4, do not utilize the ds4, unplug and shut it off via ps4 settings. Make sure the hotas has been plugged in prior to starting the game. In the game, make sure to go to control and set your hotas as the controler. Way down in the misc section there is an option to turn on a litte square that is present in the middle of your ships wind screen. Sure make it east to go somewhere you think your aiming at.
 
I'm pretty sure there are going to be plenty more posts like this one. This game simply isn't going to be for everyone. It's complex, it's in-depth, and it's a simulator. It's refreshing to me, especially on console. There's just not enough games like this anymore.
 
My guess would be that the OP is facing the wrong direction but now re-reading the original post, maybe not making it through the slot? Are you making it to the right pad? You stating you "crashed the damn thing into the spacestation" seems to suggest on the outside. Is that right?

There is an option to join someone in multi-crew (is that available for non-Horizons folk?). Could be useful for instruction, etc. Not sure if anyone uses that, but it is an option.

Fly safe o7!
 
Unlike so many typical console games, this is a direct port of the PC version and does not do a lot of "hand holding".

There are plenty of third party sites and YouTube videos that cover all these aspects of learning the ropes. The situation described here is a clear case of not bothering to learn the basics of docking at a station or outpost. You need to ASK for "Docking Permission" before you will be given a pad number. Then it is up to the player to fly the ship to that pad and land there. Large Starports should always have a pad available for you, but the smaller "outpost" stations can have instances were their limited pads are occupied and you will need to wait for one of those pads to become available.

You can get close to the outpost and observe the available pad situation, and you will see a pad light up when a ship is about to depart. Once it leaves, then resubmit your docking request and it should be granted.

As others have already pointed out, if you don't feel confident in your flying skills "yet", then buy yourself a Docking Computer module as soon as you possibly can. This will provide you with a reliable way to complete your missions while also showing you in a direct way how dockings are performed in the game.

Landing is something that all players need to learn and get proficient with because once you start landing on planets, there is no docking computer option, and you also need to deal with cases of high gravity, uneven terrain and other variables that add a whole new dynamic to the process.
 
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Always found it hilarious when you got your pad number, flew into the slot and the pad was the first one in the station and on the ceiling. There went 10 minutes of my life flying around the station trying to find my number. :D
 
I understand the OP's frustrations. I LOVE the game but yeah - lots of ridiculously tricky 'hidden' things you need to just find out they do NOT appear in the tutorials anywhere. Even just something as simple as scanning a NAV beacon to learn whats in the system? There is no tutorial for that.

I have finished ALL the training missions (working on advanced scenarios) so I am not just dropping chat without having done something.

I spent an hour and a half trying to find a target for an assassination mission and had to quit in the end.

I think it should be possible, as missions are given by rank, that the missions for the lower beginner ranks should have more 'helpful hints' to get players used to completing them and as you pick up higher ranked missions these hints drop off and then dissapear. Surely it ain't that hard is it?

Flying 'FREE' off mission - yeah no hand holding required - if you want to do that you go free. BUT if you are taking on a mission i expect a little assistance to help get it done. I'm currently 'stuck' doing trade and data drops because I can;t figure out / find any suitable combat based missions. I don't mind getting killed, i don;t mind combat being challenging, and i don't mind travelling, but please please TELL ME WHERE THE TARGET IS!!!

Still LOVE IT - not complaints (well little ones) but 'room for improvements' FDev guys and girls. (Where are the FDev Girls by the way - not common on the livestreams?)
 
Still LOVE IT - not complaints (well little ones) but 'room for improvements' FDev guys and girls. (Where are the FDev Girls by the way - not common on the livestreams?)

Believe you me - you don't want to encounter the Mistress with her minions when she's in a playful mood....
 
This came frustrates the hell out of me. That you have to figure out everything yourself is barely acceptable, but going on a long, but high paying mission only to find out the ship wont dock, AT ALL? Asked docking permission, check. Landing gear out, check. Hmmm...wont enter the spacestation, why? Flew away and retried, still no docking. After trying this 4 times i crashed the damn thing into the spacestation just to find out i couldnt finish the mission anymore. Had this twice already. If gaming becomes an activity where seemingly simple activities becomes a hastle without reason, fine. But if the mechancs do not properly work, then i becomes unacceptable

I had some friends who felt the same way so I made these videos which will help I promise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyII7yw2sN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcdI0yaCTC4
 
As a longtime consoler,i find these types of games refreshing where handholding is kept to an absolute minimum because 90+% of the games we get today are dumbed down to the point where portions of the game play themselves and things that were considered hacks on pc games many years ago are now bona fide features of console games(think wall hacks,glowy name tags above every enemies head etc etc) so i tend to get on soap boxes when games get mentioned as being too hard...that aside though,i didn't find this difficult to understand at all(and no,i'm not gods gift here or a master space simmer) a few training missions and an hour or two ingame was enough to work out and get good at the fundamentals like docking,navigation and what have you.So yeah,like everyone else has pointed out,the training missions would have told you everything about docking.
 
Unlike so many typical console games, this is a direct port of the PC version and does not do a lot of "hand holding".

There are plenty of third party sites and YouTube videos that cover all these aspects of learning the ropes. The situation described here is a clear case of not bothering to learn the basics of docking at a station or outpost. You need to ASK for "Docking Permission" before you will be given a pad number. Then it is up to the player to fly the ship to that pad and land there. Large Starports should always have a pad available for you, but the smaller "outpost" stations can have instances were their limited pads are occupied and you will need to wait for one of those pads to become available.

You can get close to the outpost and observe the available pad situation, and you will see a pad light up when a ship is about to depart. Once it leaves, then resubmit your docking request and it should be granted.

As others have already pointed out, if you don't feel confident in your flying skills "yet", then buy yourself a Docking Computer module as soon as you possibly can. This will provide you with a reliable way to complete your missions while also showing you in a direct way how dockings are performed in the game.

Landing is something that all players need to learn and get proficient with because once you start landing on planets, there is no docking computer option, and you also need to deal with cases of high gravity, uneven terrain and other variables that add a whole new dynamic to the process.

The story described here is a clear case of not reading my post correctly.
As I mentioned, i had docking permission. I flew to the correct dockingbay number , mentioned in the feedback. Extended landing gear and landed right in the middle as the indicator was completely blue. But no docking. So far, this has happened on the PS4 version 1/3rd of the time, making me go back to hyperspace and start over. Now hopefully you are better at understanding than reading and you would understand by now that in 2/3rd of the cases it works, therefore you can assume that i understand the docking procedure perfectly. Else please enlighten me :)

To me, so far, this seems to be a technical issue on the ps4
 
Did you do any of the training? At all? Docking is the very first one.

Sorry docking is the second one. And while the first one gave enough tips to figure things out (which was great), the docking training did not give any advice of how to dock to the station. You get there and you are on your own. It seems you have to figure out where the entrance is. I do not thing it is a pad on the surface. So while the training can be great. If it does not give enough tips is again becomes frustration.
 
I'm guessing the TC just jumped in-game and didn't do any tutorials.

Sick with it man, go back and do the tutorials, at least the first 2 - several times!
 
If the OP has run into the same thing I've run into, then it may not be the case that he just jumped in without doing the tutorials. I went out on my first mission and the game refused to let me jump to hyperspace. It kept telling me that my landing gear or cargo scoop was deployed. Only neither was. I even toggled them back to deployed and back to not deployed. The indicator lights were showing both as not deployed. But the game insisted that one or the other was. THAT is frustrating.
 
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