So lets get this straight.. Our commander names are no longer unique?
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I don't know, why don't you ask ObsidianAnt?
Ok, I'll try.
ObsidianAnt, would you be miffed if someone publicly accused you of trolling, cheating, or being vulgar/cretinous and backed it up with video that appeared to be you but which you, and really only you, knew not to be you?
Btw, you guys are saying it's a non-issue because ObsidianAnt would already be taken as a gamertag. I get that, and the odds of someone having that Id, not being our favorite youtuber, and wishing to troll in Elite are small enough to be non-existent. Maybe Fd let this slide because addressing that is overengineering the solution. Yet it only has to happen once for it to give someone, and FD by extension, a black eye.
p.p.s. I keep using ObsidianAnt because I'm not PvPer so I don't follow a lot of other players, but he's a local celebrity to some of us explorers.
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I suppose it *could* happen.
Also what if someone created an account on PC "Obsidian Ant", then went around being cretinous? What then?
20 pages of complaints vs writing one line. How about it? What's your problem with logic?
Well he wrote one line, it said "It has been explained - read the thread.".
So you should probably do that.
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If logic was any fun, there wouldnt be be any hilarious threads like this to pass the time with...sorry fer laughing btw, but I honestly think that if ye have a fairly commonly used name that its likely been taken fer years anyway, and up until now have been completely unaware yer unknown twin is some 12 year old gta5 troll. Funny stuff ^
Because the answer is on the first page. Like three posts down.
So there is nothing wrong with my logic. As is expected.
...because my serial number says so?
It sounds like it was a design decision to make Xbox usernames == cmdr name. I seriously doubt Microsoft can strongarm a game publisher to build their game so that their in-game character has to be the same as the Xbox gamer tag.
One could easily imagine FD creating an alias during character creation in much the same way that PC creates a cmdr name, only instead of needing a password, it's simply locked to the gamertag that created it. This alias (cmdr name) would then be totally controlled by FD and cross checked to PC so that all names are unique.
So Xbox maintains the gamertag association for awards and what not that it manages for visibility among xbox users and in-game comms and exploration is associated with the linked alias (cmdr name) which is controlled by FD. Allowing Xbox users to do other things pc users do like kill their save and start over with a new cmdr with a new identity and name, which doesn't sound totally possible currently since it will just be named the same gamertag again.
edit: i mean saying that's not possible means there are no multi-character xbox games with any kind of associated name. I mean, how does elder scrolls manage doing it? Or Sims 4.
One could easily imagine FD creating an alias during character creation in much the same way that PC creates a cmdr name, only instead of needing a password, it's simply locked to the gamertag that created it. This alias (cmdr name) would then be totally controlled by FD and cross checked to PC so that all names are unique.
So Xbox maintains the gamertag association for awards and what not that it manages for visibility among xbox users and in-game comms and exploration is associated with the linked alias (cmdr name) which is controlled by FD. Allowing Xbox users to do other things pc users do like kill their save and start over with a new cmdr with a new identity and name, which doesn't sound totally possible currently since it will just be named the same gamertag again.
edit: i mean saying that's not possible means there are no multi-character xbox games with any kind of associated name. I mean, how does elder scrolls manage doing it? Or Sims 4.
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Well, we can just use their Gamertag.
Now I'm not saying that's how it went down, but... I can see the appeal.
Anyway, now that I have a matching XBox Gamertag, is there any way I can transfer over my Commander to XBox as well so I could play them on either platform??? [noob] I'm guessing no... at least not without some server database gymnastics.
At least now I can be assured that there is only one of me out there... until the PS4 version comes out?
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I guess the question is: How many XBox users have the same Commander name as PC users, and if any, would it be possible and responsible for FD to require that the latecomer changer their name, even if it is just through a cosmetic overlay patch, of sorts, so that players would see systems tagged by the correct player and not potentially play as imposters, accidentally or otherwise?
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Dude. Seriously. Let it go.
Nobody on Xbox or PS cares about you. Like I started having some sympathey. I even himores you abit but you are borderline paronoid and it's getting really sad to see you obsses so much over a non issue.
Seriously, impersonating you of all people would be a waste of time. Even if I despised you it would be a waste of time. There is no way anyone on console or PC would impersonate you. You are a nobody to over 100 million people on those systems.
If I could express in words how dumb I think your worries are...
Nobody on Xbox or PS cares about you. Like I started having some sympathey. I even himores you abit but you are borderline paronoid and it's getting really sad to see you obsses so much over a non issue.
Seriously, impersonating you of all people would be a waste of time. Even if I despised you it would be a waste of time. There is no way anyone on console or PC would impersonate you. You are a nobody to over 100 million people on those systems.
If I could express in words how dumb I think your worries are...
I'm aware of your point of view regarding this. You don't need to keep repeating yourself and choosing to interpret what I'm saying in a rather distasteful way. I think it says more about you than anything else, really. Best of luck.
So I finally got back from the pub.. Seriously though, I'm agast at the response this thread recieved, how a euphamistic comment was taken out of total context having been trolled with someone maknig an account with the express purpose of using the same forum name, and how much of what I've said has been misrepresented, warped and twisted into something else than what I meant..
I'm going to make a final post here just to clarify what I actually meant.
Point 1) Folks paid to reserve a commander name (understanding I had at the time is this would be unique, we share the same game space after all). Was news to me this had changed. As it stands the chances of an xbox player with my cmdr name playing ED is slim, still its possible. Other platforms may be included too in the future.
Fact is there are quite a few things that Frontier haven't delivered which folks did pay for when they backed the project. I don't think Frontier has a glowing report card on this sort of thing.
If FD suddenly dropped multicrew or commander creator, I think there'd be a number of folks upset about it. Its hard to understand why there isn't a little more solidairty on this concept, it might not affect you now but it could in the future.
point 2) Gets a bit confusing if two players have the same name (as per comments about exploration, and wanted players etc). One server usually means names are unique to that server.
point 3) Our name is how we are identified in game, like any other game, if its not important lets call everyone Jameson. I wonder why folks want to name their ships as well. Frontier sold even more expensive names during the KS, does it matter? I dunno, perhaps we need to ask those who spent 1000's on a name.
You know if I pay a company for something I find it hard to accept claims I'm 'entitled' by expecting to recieve goods or services as described. Yet on this board apparently this is what I stand accused of, amongst other things. For all those who've happily dragged me through the mud on this I'd say this to you, if you bought something from a company and didn't recieve it as promised I'd more often than not support you and agree that it wasn't fair. Is it the end of the world, no.
I suppose it comes down to where you draw the line on whats acceptable and what we should reasonable expect when we pay for something. Really hard to see or understand whats so controversial about this.
As for this forum, well needless to say I don't think I'll be posting here much anymore.. And on that tip I'll ask Frontier to close this thread. GLHF
I'm going to make a final post here just to clarify what I actually meant.
Point 1) Folks paid to reserve a commander name (understanding I had at the time is this would be unique, we share the same game space after all). Was news to me this had changed. As it stands the chances of an xbox player with my cmdr name playing ED is slim, still its possible. Other platforms may be included too in the future.
Fact is there are quite a few things that Frontier haven't delivered which folks did pay for when they backed the project. I don't think Frontier has a glowing report card on this sort of thing.
If FD suddenly dropped multicrew or commander creator, I think there'd be a number of folks upset about it. Its hard to understand why there isn't a little more solidairty on this concept, it might not affect you now but it could in the future.
point 2) Gets a bit confusing if two players have the same name (as per comments about exploration, and wanted players etc). One server usually means names are unique to that server.
point 3) Our name is how we are identified in game, like any other game, if its not important lets call everyone Jameson. I wonder why folks want to name their ships as well. Frontier sold even more expensive names during the KS, does it matter? I dunno, perhaps we need to ask those who spent 1000's on a name.
You know if I pay a company for something I find it hard to accept claims I'm 'entitled' by expecting to recieve goods or services as described. Yet on this board apparently this is what I stand accused of, amongst other things. For all those who've happily dragged me through the mud on this I'd say this to you, if you bought something from a company and didn't recieve it as promised I'd more often than not support you and agree that it wasn't fair. Is it the end of the world, no.
I suppose it comes down to where you draw the line on whats acceptable and what we should reasonable expect when we pay for something. Really hard to see or understand whats so controversial about this.
As for this forum, well needless to say I don't think I'll be posting here much anymore.. And on that tip I'll ask Frontier to close this thread. GLHF
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People are responding to you in the same tone with which you write your own messages. The phrase "It's not what you say, but how you say it" is just as relevant on discussion forums as in real life - perhaps more so.
If you don't like how people are responding to you, maybe you should take a look at how you're delivering your message. Start with this:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hyperbole
What did Frontier sell you that you didn't you receive exactly? I don't recall them stating that a globally unique commander name across all platforms was a feature.
Is it *really*that hard to understand, given the tone of most of your messages on this forum?
As for this forum, well needless to say I don't think I'll be posting here much anymore.. GLHF
And nothing of value was lost...
Could we stop discussing our opinions of each other for a little bit?
I'm genuinely curious if FD can resolve this somehow, perhaps in a way as mentioned by me a few posts back. Yes, I understand some of you don't care about it, but if there's an easy enough way to resolve the issue... might as well.
Hoping to hear more from FD about this, even if it's just a "sorry, we're not going to change how this works at this time," though more ideally, I'd at least prefer something along the lines of, "we'll look into our options more and see if there's something we can do; we'll let you know."
I'm genuinely curious if FD can resolve this somehow, perhaps in a way as mentioned by me a few posts back. Yes, I understand some of you don't care about it, but if there's an easy enough way to resolve the issue... might as well.
Hoping to hear more from FD about this, even if it's just a "sorry, we're not going to change how this works at this time," though more ideally, I'd at least prefer something along the lines of, "we'll look into our options more and see if there's something we can do; we'll let you know."
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