Fair enough. But to be frank, it seems all the interesting bit is unrelated to the automation. I mean, you are 'free to personally explore other interesting things', but that is only a plus because the automated mining itself isn't any fun gameplay. If there is actual gameplay beyond 'wait for automation to finish' you could do that, and then do the other things you mention. Because in the end you're just describing ways to make 'wait for automation to finish' more interesting and engaging. Nothing against those things, but still dont see why you need the automation for it? It seems a fix for a problem that doesnt need to exist in the first place.
So, the upcoming Mining reveal? What are you hoping for?
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Fair enough. But to be frank, it seems all the interesting bit is unrelated to the automation. I mean, you are 'free to personally explore other interesting things', but that is only a plus because the automated mining itself isn't any fun gameplay. If there is actual gameplay beyond 'wait for automation to finish' you could do that, and then do the other things you mention. Because in the end you're just describing ways to make 'wait for automation to finish' more interesting and engaging. Nothing against those things, but still dont see why you need the automation for it? It seems a fix for a problem that doesnt need to exist in the first place.
Nice list
I do hope FD are taking the chance sexing up mining to this sort of degree!I would say, "valuable Deep Space '7 Cities of Gold' locations" surely have to be stateful? ie: The problem with the current rings is why go and look for them when you know the nearest most valuable one. Now, if you could explore and find a valuable finite hot spot, which as you mined dropped from 100% to 0% at which time it was gone forever? Then we have an interesting mechanics surely? And if you find one and it's at 50%? Is it being mined right now? Do you go straight there and mine it yourself? Or bookmark it for later and hope its still there?
This idea would be a more realistic way to exploration as we would ultimately use drones as we have always done so in the past. This would be a step forward and in the right direction and make exploration more exciting and worthwhile.
That would be pretty damn awesome, maybe not an srv, but something like a mining tick that anchors itself to the surface of the asteroid and allows the player to scout for pockets of resourses. Or allows drones to scout the inside of the asteroid like we've seen in the Expanse.
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Oh that's so accurate, are you sure you're not an employee with a second forum account?
I undertand, but if working out where to put it somewhere, how to put it there, setting it up, and then later collecting it is interesting... all with an undertone of doing it efficiently to make the most of your time/profit? Then "automated mining" might be more interesting than it sounds
ie: Working out which asteroid is be best bet for your automated mining units. Working out to best break that asteroid apart. Then deploying those units in the best place(s). And if this is all done under some interesting gameplay for example utilising a physyics engine etc etc, it might be a nice little mechanic?
- procedurally generated asteroids containing veins, pockets and enclosures of minerals.
- A second level of PG governing the distribution of types of asteroid within a ring, so the odd anomalous rock, giant geode, or massive crystalline 'unicorn' can be found, as well as fields of more dangerous volatile rocks
- A custom flight assist mode that allows power orbiting a rock maintaining a set altitude, using vertical/lateral thrusters. While flying a
- SLaMS (Ship Launched Mining Skiff) aiming at
- Some kind of voxel/destructible geometry tech so we can mine out resources efficiently.
- Mining Activity Signature PoIs dynamically created in SC by player activity, visibility dependent on emission strength, motivates running shield less, exposing us to
- Gas pockets, micrometeor showers and other volatiles that can effectively fire a flak cannon or plasma accelerator at your ship when struck or flown through
- A range of deployable countermeasure such as SC approach warning buoys, feeler drones to extend sensor range, homing mines that move with your ship.
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Nice list
I would say, "valuable Deep Space '7 Cities of Gold' locations" surely have to be stateful? ie: The problem with the current rings is why go and look for them when you know the nearest most valuable one. Now, if you could explore and find a valuable finite hot spot, which as you mined dropped from 100% to 0% at which time it was gone forever? Then we have an interesting mechanics surely? And if you find one and it's at 50%? Is it being mined right now? Do you go straight there and mine it yourself? Or bookmark it for later and hope its still there?
True, if let's say a Ring has such a unique location (assuming 1 per Ring for ease of purpose), its depletion might have to be possible and follow similar regeneration cycle as Barnacles or harvested Volcanism with a basic long-term stat leading to a permanent depletion; limited to i.e. Thursday Server Maintenance cycle for processing 1x / week.
(the primary issue is likely to absolutely minimize any additional Server storage/data requirements to track such a location type simply due to the sheer number; plus recycling an existing mechanic we already have would be the most efficient way)
But since i.e. RES yields remain the same just as well, one could argue :
"those Positions are actually changed by some 20-50km all the time, which goes unnoticed in the scale of Ls-based Deep Space Navigation but ensures depleted areas are continually left as the Resource Extraction slowly moves into adjacent areas"
That'll of course ensure hotspots, but as it goes hotspots in the past aren't exactly unheard of - and make for Piracy or Criminal/Bounty Hunter/Cat&Mouse Gameplay, which perfectly fits such a high-profit area (= higher risk).
But if it's technically feasible, being able to properly and realistically deplete such hotspots would be highly welcome and encourage ongoing Exploration for new ones
(then the sheer size and Reserves of such spots could be used to generate either a 1-hit-wonder or ensure it stays viable & alive i.e. for a few days or weeks if many CMDRs hit it)
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Yes, I remember... It is bound to happen then ! Let’s hope the detection process is interesting though, and we get more mining equipment! (Detection and extraction). As someone else pointed out somewhere here on the forums.. “we have 50 different weapons now for some reason, but still only one mining laser”
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So yes, weapons to break/detonate/cut asteroids apart, and then weapons to extract. Or indeed devices you can attach to mine on the asteroids surface etc...
TBH... A list like that, with exploration gameplay of the same nature, and an equally empty DLC would make my life easier. It would mean I could finally just give up...LOL
Spot on!
BUT, the hope is FD have openly declared Q4 is about significant improvements to core gameplay, which when combined with a payable DLC, surely must mean significant stuff. Surely, they can create some involved bar raising mechanics? With basically a clean slate in these areas, four years in, and with 100+ people working away on this title? Surely?
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Possibly, the most accurate guess XD
Well... If it is, and people assume this is an indication of what Q4 as a whole is going to be like... and ultimately then where ED (approaching half way through its supposed 8-10yr plan) is headed... [KaiserChiefs] I predict a riot! [/KaiserChiefs]
Rock hermits.... we need rock hermits who live on some of the asteroids and shout "Tarnation" at you when you come mining
Like this guy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mLu5jOUmws
Like this guy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mLu5jOUmws
You mean sodium chloride (NaCl).
I like the idea of a deployable mini miner that can be piloted by the player.
We have player controlled ship launched fighters... so why not a mini mining craft that can fly into cracks and crags on asteroids and dig out hard to reach materials.
Your NPC crewman controls your ship.
We have player controlled ship launched fighters... so why not a mini mining craft that can fly into cracks and crags on asteroids and dig out hard to reach materials.
Your NPC crewman controls your ship.
