Very much this.
So . . . . Type 8 eh?
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Unrelated to the T8 (probably) rendering the T7 even more obsolete than it currently is, I've looked at the ship internals again and I'm just thinking... the C5 powerplant will likely impose some stricter build limitations on the ship.
Not that I know anyone who would necessarily slap a C7 prismatic shield on a medium ship like this (instead of a cargo rack), but... well, even with overcharged/monstered blueprint, that might not be the best idea.
Not that I know anyone who would necessarily slap a C7 prismatic shield on a medium ship like this (instead of a cargo rack), but... well, even with overcharged/monstered blueprint, that might not be the best idea.
I’m envisioning a 4a Power Distributor trying to deal with the SYS draw of a 7c Biweave Shield when recovering. sound of straw drinking an empty milkshake
… that’s another way of looking at it, too. Most people will probably use the C7 alot for cargo but I’m not sure a 4A distributor would handle even a low power/lo-draw C6 bi-weave.
(Not that I’ve ever been in a situation where I’d have to put that to the test …)
I've never liked going around in an unarmed transport anyway so the Python still wins for me. I might build a miner out of it though.
How dare you soil the reputation of this fine ship?
T7 is a passenger bus. Big enough for 80 business class seats, which let's you do 90% of bulk passenger runs. Ones requiring 80 first class seats are rare.
There is incorrect part in above statement ... https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/elite-dangerous-beyond-chapter-one-3-0.409060/ (and this only as example)
So Fdev before already did updates to ships (more times). Seems also obvious that they do these changes if They see it fit from theirs viewpoint. This is also usual Frountier routine, so no surprises here. Changes to Type-7 could look logical from our (players) view (I would like it as medium ship too), but only Frontier can have full picture for make decision if change should be applied or not. Personally I think that Type-7 is quite underestimated ship by majority of players ... I have and use it on my alt character and it do its services well. I didn’t used it on main character exactly because I thought its useless looking on stats only … it was my mistake.
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T7 got a cargo boost as well a while ago. It used to be closer to the Imperial Clipper in capacity.
That's where I see T8 too. As a rescue ship from burning outposts - only if this type of AX missions ever returns (in a viable, a-week-long form).
Not even a size 6PD can deal with a size 7 Bi-weave unless you use SYS focused on PD and LowPower/LowDraw on shields. Using a size 7 Biweave can be dangerous since you will have your sys cap empty for a long time, not being able to use other sys dependent stuff for quite a while.
But why would you put a Bi-weave on a ship that's not supposed to engage often in combat?
A-rated or Primatics will be the norm for dangerous routes/open and most probably NOT size 7, even tho the size 5 PP G5 Armored can easily deal with a size 7 Prismatics
Nope.
August
That’s not true. The rule of thumb for shield experimentals vs PD class and Shield class for Thermal Resist Biweaves is:
- If PD > Shield, go Fast Charge. It can handle biweave SYS draw in its sleep. I.e. a Corvette.
- If PD = Shield, it’s a judgement call. If your weapons are numerous and/or require a lot of WEP, or you don’t want to constantly have 3+ pips in SYS, or you need the 20% power savings to make you build fit its power plant, then go Lo Draw. Otherwise, if 3 or 4 SYS pips are always available, your weapons are few and/or notably low WEP draw, or you have tons of power headway, you can use Fast Charge.
- If PD < Shield by one class, then Lo Draw will keep SYS afloat well enough to be practical. Fast Charge will bottom you out.
- If PD < Shield by more than one class, then your SYS capacitor will be having a stroke either way, so you’re probably better off with a Prismatic shield so SYS draw is no longer an issue.
For Reinforced biweaves the same rules apply, but it’s shifted 12% towards Lo Draw thanks to the increased distributor draw from that primary engineering.
Honestly, Lo Draw is one of those criminally underrated experimentals for all types of shields. 20% less power usage, so you can fit better stuff on your ship. 20% less SYS draw, so you don’t have to babysit SYS unless you need the damage resistance, so you can concentrate more on boosting and shooting. The loss of optimal multiplier seems to hurt, but that also means your recovery time is lower because it now has a lower MJ target before the shields snap on. The regen bonus from Fast Charge only really becomes notable at class 6 and above, and even then it’s not make or break.
In isolation, maybe. Once you start adding shield boosters, maybe some hardpoints(like for mining), on top of core internals, not so much.
But I guess most people won't throw a S7 shield on the ship anyway, so, yeah... I suppose it's probably mostly academic to consider.
So guessing this and the other two will be on a consecutive rolling release. So what's that, one year for all four ships in total?
If all new ship go into early access in the month the previous gets fully released ? Yes.
hopefully FDev dropped the "early access for arx" concept and we get both Python Mk2 and the Type-8 in August for credits.
Else, there is a chance we get the T8 for Arx in August and 2+ months later we get it for credits too (wild speculation - Arf didnt mentioned anything about Arx or early access)