So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

Weird...there is a star next to Mirphak that I cannot select on the GalMap...why is that? Is it because it's part of the same system? But then why is it displayed? Is it a glitch?

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One of the things that Galnet has been doing lately is to set up the background lore of the game, especially in relation to resolving potential ambiguities from/with the previous games. Thus we have had information about the Antares incident, the Thargoids and this alien artefact. The timing of some of these articles, however, may be significant.
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The nature of this artefact found in the distant past (for 3302) on Mars is odd: for it to be clear that it is genuinely alien would have represented an incredibly significant moment in history, at the time of its discovery. At the very least, it would have had to have been investigated by multiple parties, independently, to be sure of the findings (e.g. isotopic and metallurgical analysis). To then not share any information other than its size, the planet it was found on and the fact of its non-human origin would have been considered bizarre and, very likely, unpopular in the past. Two reasons I can think of for keeping further details secret are that information might have been recovered from it suggesting a threat, or that it was itself transmitting information on its surroundings and needed to be kept in a shielded location to hide the fact of its recovery from its manufacturers. Either way, it means that the civilisation that made it exists in ED (whether implemented in part in the Rift or elsewhere, or awaiting implementation at a later date, e.g. in a permit-locked region) and may one day be encountered. Perhaps then more information may be forthcoming...

Or it's a pull-tab from a thargoid beer can. The only mystery is how double scanning missed cleaning up the campsite on the Millers vacation through the wild ape game preserve called the bubble since you're not allowed to leave more than an atom behind. The Millers ruined it for everyone and now the entire quadrant is off limits to campers.

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Not sure if this has been approached before, but with the whole vain queen riddle, is it possible to line up cassiopeiae ontop of camelopardis (vain queen rides a camel) with perseus constellation closer than them both (remembers [looks back at] daughters hero)

As though youre looking from within a system towards casseopeiae, which would appear above camelopardis with perseus in between your system and the two other constellations. Ive tried working it out but i aint smart enough for it!

The vain queen rides a giraffe that remembers her daughter's hero.

There's something face-palming obvious about that sentence that no one's mentioned. I'm going to leave that hang and see how it pans out and hopefully come back for a mass face-palming. Seems to be an unknown know of a known unknown.
 
I'm wondering if she will have her moment in court as 2.2 drops, and will use the opportunity to spill some beans.

That is exactly what we are hoping for, why we are roleplaying so much to ensure the stability of the Prism System. To enable her to use the publicity of the trial to make public what she knows.
 
"Admiral Patreus will soon depart for the Prism system to oversee the trial of Kahina Loren."

Well if he's overseeing rather then participating in the trail then there's nothing fair about it.
Although I suppose we knew that after her rank was stripped before trial rather then as part of it.
One could argue that the ability to realise that oneself lacks the ability to rule fairly and to put the power in the hands of someone who can is the next best thing in a ruler then someone who can rule fairly.

...and far better then those who think they can rule when they can't.

My only question is: when they do execute her (or attempt to) can we shatter the backs to those two?

I really want to see if we can actually remove a power from play.
 
The vain queen rides a giraffe that remembers her daughter's hero.

There's something face-palming obvious about that sentence that no one's mentioned. I'm going to leave that hang and see how it pans out and hopefully come back for a mass face-palming. Seems to be an unknown know of a known unknown.

AFAIK you can only see that configuration of the constellations from Sol at a particular time of the year. Cass on top of Camel with Perseus slightly behind and below Camel.

Otherwise I'm not sure what you're going on about. But I'd like to know :D
 
The thing that puzzles me is that, every player has a different jump range, depending on the ship, how heavy it is, whether it was engineered, etc...so how is it supposed happen that one jumps out at a specific system along the RR line and recognizes something? Every player can potentially stop at different systems on the RR line on the way to the rift and beyond. So the way to recognize "it" must be something else, not a system you jump into, for example, and recognize something. But then again they said that it's not a POI anyway. Does that mean that it cannot be, for example, a cluster of stars, a pattern, or a black hole, or a nebula? Basically "it" is not something that is visible by the human eye?
Also, I am sure someone has already mentioned that the NGC 884 and NGC 869, double cluster, is what you can see from Sol in between the three constellations cass, camel and perseus. But even if "it" was somewhere in this area, what do we make of the fact that it's more than 1000LY away from the RR line?
 
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The thing that puzzles me is that, every player has a different jump range, depending on the ship, how heavy it is, whether it was engineered, etc...so how is it supposed happen that one jumps out at a specific system along the RR line and recognizes something? Every player can potentially stop at different systems on the RR line on the way to the rift and beyond. So the way to recognize "it" must be something else, not a system you jump into, for example, and recognize something. But then again they said that it's not a POI anyway. Does that mean that it cannot be, for example, a cluster of stars, a pattern, or a black hole, or a nebula? Basically "it" is not something that is visible by the human eye?
Also, I am sure someone has already mentioned that the NGC 884 and NGC 869, double cluster, is what you can see from Sol in between the three constellations cass, camel and perseus. But even if "it" was somewhere in this area, what do we make of the fact that it's more than 1000LY away from the RR line?

It's not a specific system or point of interest, so, really, it'll be something in the skybox. To be honest, we've probably all seen it one way or another, just had no idea what we were looking at. Kind of like being told to find a weed in a field of grass, without knowing what weeds or grass are...

I was for a while fairly convinced there would be an strong audio cue, seeing as the audio devs in the game do a sensational job, but I'm not so sure anymore. I spent a lot of time staring at the skybox after 100000+ LS SC's form the furthest body in a system, listened with my ship pointing in various directions, in and out of the cockpit/bridge...

I'll be honest, I'm going out there this time to tag stuff and take pretty pictures. I'm sure the dev's go over this thread every so often and have a giggle, and then, in pure frustration scream at the screen "you almost had it, and you changed your blah blah blah!!!"...

Once this is figured out, I'd actually love to hear some of Drew's and the dev's insights into how they saw it all as we were bumbling in the blackness of space.

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It's not a specific system or point of interest, so, really, it'll be something in the skybox. To be honest, we've probably all seen it one way or another, just had no idea what we were looking at. Kind of like being told to find a weed in a field of grass, without knowing what weeds or grass are...

Z...

So "something in the skybox" does not qualify as a POI then? (Legit question, not trying to be a SmartApp). I mean if it visible in the skybox, isn't it some kind of POI?
 
So "something in the skybox" does not qualify as a POI then? (Legit question, not trying to be a SmartApp). I mean if it visible in the skybox, isn't it some kind of POI?

POI in this context refers to USS's.

Personally, I think that while there might be something in the skybox to give us a clue, what we're actually looking for something in-system - though probably spread around multiple systems. Not a Death Star (TM), but some sign of civilization/intelligence.
 
I'll be honest, I'm going out there this time to tag stuff and take pretty pictures. I'm sure the dev's go over this thread every so often and have a giggle, and then, in pure frustration scream at the screen "you almost had it, and you changed your blah blah blah!!!"...

Once this is figured out, I'd actually love to hear some of Drew's and the dev's insights into how they saw it all as we were bumbling in the blackness of space.

I can't imagine all the popcorn Drew gets through ;)
 
I can't imagine all the popcorn Drew gets through ;)

Ahhh, but I shall have my revenge...

On his website is the timeline for the new ED novel.

When (if) I discover the answer to the Rift mystery, I'll keep it a secret until the week before the final draft is due. That way, when I announce it, he has to go back and re-write the novel to include it. In the meantime, I'll post cryptic clues on the forum to keep him guessing as to whether I have the answer.
 
The thing that puzzles me is that, every player has a different jump range, depending on the ship, how heavy it is, whether it was engineered, etc...so how is it supposed happen that one jumps out at a specific system along the RR line and recognizes something? Every player can potentially stop at different systems on the RR line on the way to the rift and beyond. So the way to recognize "it" must be something else, not a system you jump into, for example, and recognize something. But then again they said that it's not a POI anyway. Does that mean that it cannot be, for example, a cluster of stars, a pattern, or a black hole, or a nebula? Basically "it" is not something that is visible by the human eye?
Also, I am sure someone has already mentioned that the NGC 884 and NGC 869, double cluster, is what you can see from Sol in between the three constellations cass, camel and perseus. But even if "it" was somewhere in this area, what do we make of the fact that it's more than 1000LY away from the RR line?

I'm just mindful of the fact that

a) Reorte and Riedquat are right next to each other.
b) Reorte and Riedquat positions are only available to five decimal places.

This is a terrible setup for a direction finding exercise extending 10,000+ LY.
 
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The vain queen rides a giraffe that remembers her daughter's hero.

There's something face-palming obvious about that sentence that no one's mentioned. I'm going to leave that hang and see how it pans out and hopefully come back for a mass face-palming. Seems to be an unknown know of a known unknown.

Been pondering what this riddle means.

We've all assumed that the "vain queen" is Cassiopeia. Fair enough.

Warning ... I'm going to do some 'thinking out loud' here.

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We've identified the Giraffe as Camelopardalis. The word itself is a conjunction of two separate Greek words: kamēlos (Camel) and pardalis (leopard). The constellation was created in 1613 to represent the animal the Rebekah rode in the Old Testament when she went to marry Isaac. Bank that for now.

If Cassiopeia is to be seen as riding the Giraffe then she's riding it backwards as Cassiopeia and the Giraffe are facing different directions. Cassiopeia's knee is the star Ruchbah. It is a bit of stretch to point out that Ruchbah and Rebekah sound a little similar but, hey, I'm thinking out loud here.

Ruchbah is an Algol type star: an Eclipsing Binary Pair. Algol, of course, is the head of the Gorgon Medusa in the Perseus constellation. What if the reason that the Giraffe remembers Perseus has nothing to do with the constellation of Perseus itself but is a reference to the Algol type star that is riding on it's back? The problem, of course, is that Ruchbah is very very close to Sol and not near the Rift.

Like I said. Thinking out loud.
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AFAIK you can only see that configuration of the constellations from Sol at a particular time of the year. Cass on top of Camel with Perseus slightly behind and below Camel.

Otherwise I'm not sure what you're going on about. But I'd like to know :D

You will, just don't want to jinx it. Probably will as playing with a jinx line is irresistible like how fast can I move without setting off the motion sensors and still get away before the cops arrive. Some times that's fun, some times not so much. Waiting for Guardians to drop to check things out,,,will Tuesday ever come and with some covert cyber war going on right now will we even be able to.

The vain queen going over the top is interesting, she accelerates over it and is only on top for a few or a couple of minutes and looks like she's kicking away the heart and soul like it's gas and dung the camel just farted right into the hero's face. Re checked she goes over the top in less than 2 minutes.
June 15th 00:22 2016/3302,,,anything happen around then.

A lot of extra prep for this one,,new eddiscovery with a database conversion that can take hours,,I think it took 3-4 hours for me on the beta I hope it will keep that, the importstars.txt needs to be ready that took 30 minutes, the config as usual and then new versions of every tool we use.

o well fingers crossed hop on one foot
 
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