You do have a point there.
So you want to play in Open, eh?
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You do have a point there.
Posted by a code member so it seems likely. Also Code's PR arm says they don't use "announced exploits" so any exploit not yet announced as an exploit by FD is fair game for them. For me an exploit is an exploit whether it's announced or not.
Well, although GluttonyFang seemed to dislike my previous comment way back in this thread (or just didn't read it all), I actually believe that pirates and even plain murderers have their place in this game and can add content and life (or death) into Elite universe, making it more interesting in the end.
I loved the Hutton CG. On my first run, I thought I wouldn't even come back to collect the reward. Ended up losing count on the runs I did. I went to Hutton in 4 different ships, ASP first, then after an unsuccessful interdiction attempt bu a pirate brought my Clipper, then a T6 and finally Python.
Went to Hutton alone, with friends, with strangers. Made new friends, and new "enemies".
Seen kinds of user-generatied content and activities never seen before. traffic controllers, physical landing queues, respect for queue order, players dumping cargo for others, players policing the system.
Then came the pirates...
They brought me in-game suspense, in-game anger, but also brought even more player cooperation, convoys rallying at Readdy Terminal, wings of players who were complete strangers just the day before. Travelled in wings, picked up other players along the way, joined up with other wings. Destroyed pirates and was destroyed by pirates.
The pirates brought rage and indignation, fury, revenge wishes, etc. And that was fun. Also added more layers of cooperation between scrap haulers and hauler escorts.
Added a very exciting final push. And in the end they "cost me" a Python, which went up in a ball of flame after I deliberatly disregarded the warning to leave, and then the warning to stop, trying to fight a wing of pirates alone. Because my in-game character will never surrender to pirates, no matter the consequences.
And that, my friends, in my own personal opinion, just made a completely legendary CG even better.
The Hutton CG legend will live forever. Congrats to All, including the pirates.
For the MUG! o7
ps: still dislike the OP overall tone, although it makes some fair points.
I loved the Hutton CG. On my first run, I thought I wouldn't even come back to collect the reward. Ended up losing count on the runs I did. I went to Hutton in 4 different ships, ASP first, then after an unsuccessful interdiction attempt bu a pirate brought my Clipper, then a T6 and finally Python.
Went to Hutton alone, with friends, with strangers. Made new friends, and new "enemies".
Seen kinds of user-generatied content and activities never seen before. traffic controllers, physical landing queues, respect for queue order, players dumping cargo for others, players policing the system.
Then came the pirates...
They brought me in-game suspense, in-game anger, but also brought even more player cooperation, convoys rallying at Readdy Terminal, wings of players who were complete strangers just the day before. Travelled in wings, picked up other players along the way, joined up with other wings. Destroyed pirates and was destroyed by pirates.
The pirates brought rage and indignation, fury, revenge wishes, etc. And that was fun. Also added more layers of cooperation between scrap haulers and hauler escorts.
Added a very exciting final push. And in the end they "cost me" a Python, which went up in a ball of flame after I deliberatly disregarded the warning to leave, and then the warning to stop, trying to fight a wing of pirates alone. Because my in-game character will never surrender to pirates, no matter the consequences.
And that, my friends, in my own personal opinion, just made a completely legendary CG even better.
The Hutton CG legend will live forever. Congrats to All, including the pirates.
For the MUG! o7
ps: still dislike the OP overall tone, although it makes some fair points.
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Before...
After...
Fixed
...if only
In short, come the next similar CG, will the same antics simply go on all over again?
You belong in Solo. Period.
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"Chain Wing" might describe it better.
A wing of four drop into normal space and disband. They are then each separately invited by 4 wings of 3. The original 4 drop their beacons for the new players. 1 wing becomes 4 wings, each in the same instance.
Nevertheless, you've been dragged in this thread and felt you had to respond. Whether you accept it or not, whatever one of your member say will reflect on your entire organization.
Any particular reason for that suggestion? I'm confused how you come to such a conclusion given the comment in question, + my history of posts regarding OPEN?
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How delightful for you to decide how others play.
Excellent post!
From my perspective, the only downside was to bring out of game justifications to an in game action, but the presence of CODE in the CG seems to have had a positive effect of the game experience, as you rightly pointed out. The key phrase being : "The pirates brought rage and indignation, fury, revenge wishes, etc. And that was fun." Spot on.
As an analogy, I am rolling my eyes at the stated reasons for their interference in the CG. Shaking my head at the defence of the justifications. And arguing against those justifications. In other words: I'm having fun on the forum.
CODE will get better at this being CODE shenanigans, and the game will be better for it. I have no doubt they're learning from their screw ups as we type
Agreed. I wouldn't mind playing open but my internet connection doesn't like me doing this. Sounds like you are having fun. I wish I could participate.
All you Code have done is making Open more and more unfriendly, Nothing else.
Did you do anything good for other players in game in the name of Code?
No. You only interdict, scan, shot, rob, and kill them.
ISIS forces people leaving their home and running to Europe.
Code forces players leaving Open and choosing Group or Solo.
Finally Open would become a dead world due to your excellent works.
Did you do anything good for other players in game in the name of Code?
No. You only interdict, scan, shot, rob, and kill them.
ISIS forces people leaving their home and running to Europe.
Code forces players leaving Open and choosing Group or Solo.
Finally Open would become a dead world due to your excellent works.
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Because I've seen you frequently post complaints about things that only occur in Open. Sounds to me like you don't enjoy PvP, and that you think it's unfair if you lose.
You should only be playing in Open if you are ready to handle conflict, and can deal with being destroyed occasionally. Expect to be destroyed by other players.
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Maybe the community should start a list of Code members, and form a defense group against them? Instead of complaining about a group of Pirates. Deal with the issue in the game. Don't whine about it on the forums and expect it to change.
Hello Ziggy,
Well Guilds are already here - as CODE as shown (you should see reddit when groups make temporary peace treaties on behalf of a power - the uproar by the non group members!). Might as well improve their tools as this also helps smaller groups of friends in PvE/Open such as improved comms (text channels) and even tagging.
I think we can expect more of the CODE type of behavior if guild ownership is added, I think that would be when things get messy. Really hope this is not done, but guilds exist and life goes on.
Simon
Well Guilds are already here - as CODE as shown (you should see reddit when groups make temporary peace treaties on behalf of a power - the uproar by the non group members!). Might as well improve their tools as this also helps smaller groups of friends in PvE/Open such as improved comms (text channels) and even tagging.
I think we can expect more of the CODE type of behavior if guild ownership is added, I think that would be when things get messy. Really hope this is not done, but guilds exist and life goes on.
Simon
Playing in open is not just about PvP you know? Also there is a big difference between playing the game as a pirate group and just killing people and using exploits to do so because you are bored.
The other players did try to respond and the crap instancing system didn't allow them to meet the CODE in most cases.
Stop trying to tell other people they need to wing up if they want to play in open.
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Before...
After...
Fixed
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In short, come the next similar CG, will the same antics simply go on all over again?
Cheers Neil.
Drive-by posting, duck!
No reference to Code's presence or intention to disrupt the CG. Can we finally accept this *removes sunglasses and stares into the distance, squints in pain as the sun appears* as 'proof-positive'* that Code were not 'out-of-order' for blockading, that like-it-or-not FD are happy with the idea of what Code did?
*Been watching too many procedurals on the tv.
Sorry, but I'll have to pull you up on that as so unfair, it's verging on a strawman TBH
If we just consider just my posts in just this thread... can you see why I may consider your accusation as rather unfounded? Here's three pulled at random... See anything unfair or irrational regarding OPEN here? Or are you suggesting OPEN is currently problem free and I shouldn't even be daring to suggest where I think problem lie and where it could be improved?
I'd ask you either be more specific in your accusations/facts, or accept you've mis-read or mis-understood something? At the moment you're coming across like someone whose quicker to pull out a pitchfork (for a fight), than a pen (for a discussion). I'd prefer the "pen" please...
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=181909&p=2803106&viewfull=1#post2803106
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=181909&p=2803322&viewfull=1#post2803322
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=181909&page=20&p=2802882#post2802882
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Absolutely not. Ganking, exploiting and lying, then bragging about it.
Is precisely what I want from this game, that I ain't getting right now.
Would love to team up in a proper trade wing with a fighter or two for protection. Unfortunately my mates are mainly newbies that don't play very much. (Note to self; friend more players.)
But I do have a problem with certain pirates getting impatient and not giving me enough time to drop cargo, just destroying my T6, which was not much a loss only 120k buy back, peanuts really, mainly a time time loss as I have stocked up on rares and was on my way into George Lucas for the final pickup. It wasn't as if we weren't talking, and I gave no indication that I wouldn't drop my cargo. They just decided to waste my ship, which is not how it's supposed to work.
Reason why if I'm playing in open it's normally with the Cobra, feel safe when I can run away.
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