Sothis and Ceos Advice

[DRAKUS21]

Hi commanders, I was just reading an interesting thread on ship types regarding this Sothis run but when I searched for guides and advice on this a lot of the stuff was quite old, I couldn't find anything from the current game patch and any changes it might have made.

So would anyone be able to point me in the direction of a guide on this Sothis run or is there anyone out there doing it now that can offer some tips and experience on how they're finding it now and what they're doing please.

I am in an A rated python at the moment, what sort of cash/her could I generate with 200T and also my cash flow would allow me to buy a get my anaconda back but it would be pure trading, is this viable with the landing pad sizes and aggressive NPC's?

Let me know your thoughts on this!

Cheers all

DRAKUS21 o7

 

[Jon flint]

Doing it in a trade conda right now (with modded fsd) can haul 388t and will jump 29ly fully loaded. Can't think of any ship better for sothis/ceos. Pretty easy to make 60mil per hour. Started out doing in in my corvette but the poor jump range meant I was having to do 35 jumps once fully laden (400t).

I'd say you can make around 20-30mil per hour in a python, maybe less depending on your jump range.

 

[JamyThegreat]

I'd stick with your Python until you can afford an anaconda, an asp may be quicker but only slightly tbh, compare it with the haulage capacity of the python. May take another 15 minutes jumping back to the bubble, but 15 minutes is worth it when you have x2 reward money than you would in an asp.

 

[Ogre]

Done the trip a few times in the past couple of weeks, started off in my Asp and current trip last night was in the Anaconda.
When I first arrived there I bought a cheap cobra just to fly between Sothis & Ceos delivering data missions (and the odd smuggle in some slaves mission), this brings your ranlking up with local factions and thus gives you better pay outs on the long range missions (I found).
Its quicker in the Asp but you'll make more money in the Anaconda (made 55mill in last trip).
Was interdicted 3 times and just jumped away.

 

[Y nt Zoidberg7]

Done the trip a few times in the past couple of weeks, started off in my Asp and current trip last night was in the Anaconda.
When I first arrived there I bought a cheap cobra just to fly between Sothis & Ceos delivering data missions (and the odd smuggle in some slaves mission), this brings your ranlking up with local factions and thus gives you better pay outs on the long range missions (I found).
Its quicker in the Asp but you'll make more money in the Anaconda (made 55mill in last trip).
Was interdicted 3 times and just jumped away.

This is exactly what I did, right down to the cobra I used a d-rated anaconda, just run after being interdicted. I put some mine launchers on mine to mess with them until my FSD cool down was done.

OP, I tried it in my python, but I found the number of jumps to be boring, I sold it in exchange for a discounted conda, and outfitted for Long range jumps, only cost about 170 mil. I made enough to buy a python back in no time (although I bought an FAS instead).

 

[Xaevryn]

So how exactly do ya do a sothis/ceos run? just run missions there or commodity trading?

I don't have tons of cash, would a type-6 be ok to start off until I get something bigger? maybe a type-7?

 

[Dell Tarrant]

Im actually doing this in a Type - 6 at the moment. Originally in a Cobra Mk3 but wanted the extra cargo. I don't carry weapons....just mines. I should be upgrading to a Python in the next day or so and carrying on. I also bought a Cobra for the data runs. To be honest im not finding the npcs to be much of a problem really.

 

[woodbane]

This is exactly what I did, right down to the cobra I used a d-rated anaconda, just run after being interdicted. I put some mine launchers on mine to mess with them until my FSD cool down was done.

OP, I tried it in my python, but I found the number of jumps to be boring, I sold it in exchange for a discounted conda, and outfitted for Long range jumps, only cost about 170 mil. I made enough to buy a python back in no time (although I bought an FAS instead).

I'm doing it in a Python and the large number of jumps is a bit of a turn off. Would you mind sharing a Coriolis build of your D rated Conda for Sothis running? I may be able to strip out all my Python bits and sell it off and have enough credits to do this.

Especially as 'home base' is Diagunadri, so a lovely 15% off everything!

 

[Y nt Zoidberg7]

I don't have a coriolis build, but I can tell you what I had its easy-

D-rate all core internals, except a-rated FSD
A0 shield boosters- 4
Chaff launcher
2 point defence on the back wings to intercept missles
6E shield (shield boosters add 80%) since I always ran after interdictions with 4 pips its all I needed.
6A fuel scoop
Cargo, cargo and more cargo. I think I could hold almost 400t.

I only put 2 mine launchers in the small HP's, and a 4A multi-cannon for fun. Basically after I submitted to an interdiction, I would boost, deploy mines, and boost again while dropping mines, if I noticed the NPC eating the mines, I'd wait till they were about 30% hull, turn around and kill them with the multi cannon.

If you have "report crimes against me" turned on, do not try and turn and attack. Security will run into any mines still active and you will get a bounty.

Also I ran 4pips sys and 2 eng, mines take almost zero power.

I also picked up my Annie at ray gateway, 124 mil is great. I think my total cost was about 166 mil, 24 mil going into the fuel scoop and the a rated FSD was 15 mil if I remember correctly. Hope this helps.

Edit: Also makes a good miner with a little adjustment, and gcrv 1568 (my home) is just around the corner from diaguandri.

 

[weakspleen]

So how exactly do ya do a sothis/ceos run? just run missions there or commodity trading?

I don't have tons of cash, would a type-6 be ok to start off until I get something bigger? maybe a type-7?

I did this in a Type-6 for a while until I could afford an AspX and go exploring. Just go. Look at the mission boards, choose a couple and start flying. When you get enough reputation for the big missions to make deliveries 400+ly away, just add a fuel scoop to the Type-6 and be off to make big credits.

 

[woodbane]

I don't have a coriolis build, but I can tell you what I had its easy-

D-rate all core internals, except a-rated FSD
A0 shield boosters- 4
Chaff launcher
2 point defence on the back wings to intercept missles
6E shield (shield boosters add 80%) since I always ran after interdictions with 4 pips its all I needed.
6A fuel scoop
Cargo, cargo and more cargo. I think I could hold almost 400t.

I only put 2 mine launchers in the small HP's, and a 4A multi-cannon for fun. Basically after I submitted to an interdiction, I would boost, deploy mines, and boost again while dropping mines, if I noticed the NPC eating the mines, I'd wait till they were about 30% hull, turn around and kill them with the multi cannon.

If you have "report crimes against me" turned on, do not try and turn and attack. Security will run into any mines still active and you will get a bounty.

Also I ran 4pips sys and 2 eng, mines take almost zero power.

I also picked up my Annie at ray gateway, 124 mil is great. I think my total cost was about 166 mil, 24 mil going into the fuel scoop and the a rated FSD was 15 mil if I remember correctly. Hope this helps.

Edit: Also makes a good miner with a little adjustment, and gcrv 1568 (my home) is just around the corner from diaguandri.

REP for you sir, very helpful, many thanks.

And you are indeed just around the corner. I think I sometimes pop over there in my Vulture for a spot of RES hunting. We should wing up sometime!

 

[RhymeRhyme]

Interesting thread.

My question: I own a A rated Python and am on the edge to get enough credits to even buy a basic Anaconda. But is it really such a big difference from a jump range perspective / overall jumps? 12.8 vs. 16.7 LY as what coriolis says.

Question is should I just do some more bounty hunting and missions of even a Community Goal for a week and then get to Sotis in a Conda or should I just use my Python?

UPDATE: I see, if I fit D-rated stuff in, the Conda gets much better. But I can't afford D-rated equipment at the moment.

 

[Arithon]

Sothis runs:-

Get a ship with a good jump range. A rated FSD with D-rated everything else. Don't bother with weapons. Frankly if you get that weight, you might as well get an A rated thruster instead for quick getaways. If you get interdicted in a trader, you are going to run anyway.

A good fuel scoop is essential. A 20-30 jump trip there and back is tedious and perilous if you have to spend ages refuelling.

As much cargo space as possible.

Having your ship set, depart for CEOS. When you arrive there, go to either station or outpost and grab all the missions to take legal cargo or data to SOTHIS. You don't want to damage your reputation or get Wanted.

Fly to SOTHIS and deliver the missions, then collect any similar missions for CEOS while checking all factions for 300-500Lyr delivery missions. These will offer rewards starting around 1M cr (depending on your rank). Grab those! As your reputation with the local SOTHIS factions rises, so will the rewards. Many missions are worth 5M cr and are for delivering 4T of Biowaste!

Repeat the trips between SOTHIS and CEOS, raising your reputation until you fill your cargo hold with long-range delivery mission cargo. Then fly back to the bubble and deliver. Get rich. Go back to CEOS/SOTHIS when you feel like doing it again.

On the (longer) trip back, if you hit a briar-patch of brown stars and fuel is below 25%, go into the galaxy map, switch to "econonmic" and keep going. You will hit a scoop-able star eventually, but use the STAR TYPE filter on the galaxy map to find one if fuel gets too low.

Good luck CMDRs!

 

[DRAKUS21]

Thank you so much for the above posts they're really helpful, for the time being I have decided to stay doing this in my python, for the one and only reason I have spent too much time upgrading mods on the engineers and to just sell the ship and loose those upgrades would be a shame, however I am going to start putting the money towards getting an anaconda to the above specifications just for this!

My question back to you chaps is, how do you define between a good and bad mission for the long trip, is there a minimum maxium profit per tonne that you would accept?

For example a mission to deliver 24 tonnes for 2.5 million = 104,166/tonne profit

4 tonnes to deliver for 4 million = 1,000,000 / tonne profit (obviously take this one lol)

what is the lowest limit / tonne I guess would be the best question to ask!

Thanks again, DRAKUS21

 

[woodbane]

Try and aim for 500,000CR per tonne or more if you can. To be honest though, you'll end up waiting a long time to get the right missions this way through the mission board refreshing so you need to be somewhat flexible.

In a Python with say 200t cargo id be looking at 30mil-60 mill for a full load?

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Also no need to lose upgraded components. If the ship you wish to purchase has the same slots for any of the components then just transfer them to the new ship in outfitting by selling them, switch to new ship and buy them back. Must be exactly the same component size slot though.

 

[RhymeRhyme]

Try and aim for 500,000CR per tonne or more if you can. To be honest though, you'll end up waiting a long time to get the right missions this way through the mission board refreshing so you need to be somewhat flexible.

In a Python with say 200t cargo id be looking at 30mil-60 mill for a full load?

Good news! Then I take my Python there. But it's like 42 jumps from where I am at the moment. That kept me away so far from doing Robigo ... ehhmmm... Ceos

 

[3Wood]

Good news! Then I take my Python there. But it's like 42 jumps from where I am at the moment. That kept me away so far from doing Robigo ... ehhmmm... Ceos

This is why I am based at the closest high tech station to Ceos

 

[DRAKUS21]

Try and aim for 500,000CR per tonne or more if you can. To be honest though, you'll end up waiting a long time to get the right missions this way through the mission board refreshing so you need to be somewhat flexible.

In a Python with say 200t cargo id be looking at 30mil-60 mill for a full load?

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Also no need to lose upgraded components. If the ship you wish to purchase has the same slots for any of the components then just transfer them to the new ship in outfitting by selling them, switch to new ship and buy them back. Must be exactly the same component size slot though.

Yeah I think you are right, the 500,000cr / tonne are not really there for me at the moment but not to say they don't exist it's probably more to do with local faction reputation more than anything, as I was typing this there was 3 x smuggle runs Sothis > Ceos 5.5Million each all for about 8t of cargo, but I didn't have the ranking..... case and point right there lol that would have been a right cheeky little job.

So I guess for the minute perhaps the smart thing is to load up on the best I can and run with it? I have got a mix of missions so far total payout is about 16million for about 90 tonnes of cargo, if I stick to this level of work load I should scrap past the 30 million marker which I guess is not bad for my first attempt? and it's in line with your 30-60 million you mentioned above.

Hopefully then once my rank goes up a bit I can start to be a bit more picky with the work and work my way up towards your 60mill marker.

I appreciate your help mate thank you

 

[JynxTheMerc]

Fairly soon I'll be taking my conda down to ceos/sothis for some more bulk runs.
If you need a travel buddy, or whatever, keep an eye out haha

 

[JamyThegreat]

Do some data transfers between each stations. Spend about an hour in both systems transferring data or smuggling, collect the best you can then head off. Stay longer if you're happy to but I find it gets to a point where it just wastes time. Sooner you leave the sooner you'll be back imo