I will be extremely disappointed if they choose to end the game with a South America pack.
Spring 2024 DLC Speculation
- Thread starter The Carcharodontogenius
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My hopeful optimism: a South America/ Amazon themed pack. We would get a lot of new rigs to use and it would be bigger than a normal pack.
- Spectacled bear
- Patagonian Mara
- Spider monkey
- Golden Lion tamarin
- West Indian manatee
- Arapima
- Scarlet ibis
- Macaws and toucans in the WTE
I think we have more reason to believe support will end than it being continued, but that's purely based on what happened with PC. But who knows, PZ is its own game.
I'm hoping we at least get two more DLCs. The summer one would launch in FY25, its development would happen during FY24. I don't know if that means anything though.
I’m really hoping for a finale pack with something like
. Wild Turkey
. ABB
. Black Howler
. Ocelot
. SA Coati
. Tanuki
. Pallas’ Cat
. Pere David’s Deer
. Hamadryas Baboon
. Short-beaked Echidna
. Tree Kangaroo
. Gray Crowned Crane
. WTE Macaws (Scarlet, Blue & Gold, Military, Hyacinth) Budgies, And maybe Hummingbirds
Would sell for like $20
. Wild Turkey
. ABB
. Black Howler
. Ocelot
. SA Coati
. Tanuki
. Pallas’ Cat
. Pere David’s Deer
. Hamadryas Baboon
. Short-beaked Echidna
. Tree Kangaroo
. Gray Crowned Crane
. WTE Macaws (Scarlet, Blue & Gold, Military, Hyacinth) Budgies, And maybe Hummingbirds
Would sell for like $20
It seems like the undeniable truth, but I'm still holding out for the howler and the golden-lion tamarin.
ABB<Spectacled... Love everything else though!
Respectfully I have the exact opposite opinion, of any region I think South America deserved being the last.
I’m at peace with a possible end at this stage honestly. There’s so many species left to add and it’s unfortunate that many people’s favourite animals are still missing from the game, but that will always be the case, and its had a pretty fantastic run. Like most people, if the next DLC is indeed the last (which isn’t confirmed, though I wouldn’t be surprised at all), my main hopes would be for a Latin America Animal Pack or some form of Around the World Expansion. I’m also one of the few people on this forum who’d actually like an Extinct Animal Expansion as a finale (recently extinct - I don’t want mammoths and smilodons and dinosaurs, we have Prehistoric Kingdom for that), but getting that without some kind of South America revisit would just be bizarre and sad.
Whatever the case, whether there’s only one more DLC left, two more DLC left, or support continues for years, I’m still looking forward to the future of PZ. Modding continues to make breakthroughs (FINALLY new exhibit species) and will keep the community alive for years, and I’m also looking forward to a possible PZ2 further down the line.
Whatever the case, whether there’s only one more DLC left, two more DLC left, or support continues for years, I’m still looking forward to the future of PZ. Modding continues to make breakthroughs (FINALLY new exhibit species) and will keep the community alive for years, and I’m also looking forward to a possible PZ2 further down the line.
It's sad to me that my dream, flying birds, might not be happening (not confirmed yet, obviously), but hey, we had a pretty nice year! Oceania and Eurasia were both excellent packs, with Tropical being nice and Arid being debatible, but hey, it could have been a worse year 
. We had RRH, Tassie, Kiwi, Fossa, Porcupine and Wolverine in a single year, that's amazing enough!
. We had RRH, Tassie, Kiwi, Fossa, Porcupine and Wolverine in a single year, that's amazing enough!
B-b-but i'm working on an all south-american zoo now .... with the thought that they are gonna add more animals in a dedicated DLC for South-America 
Wonder if the recent birds have anything to do with it...
Wings of the World Expedition Pack
South America Top Meta Animal Global Rep Frontier work load
They already got the big new rigs out of the way (kiwi, swan) in the last 2 packs, making it easier to make a pack like this, with only 2 new rigs (and WTE species). This imo would be the smartest decision they could make.
I dont think they are going to do a "just pick 2 wanted animals from each continent" because some regions have more needed species than others, for example, people want SA animals way more like 5+ rather than Oceania animals where they only want like 1 or 2. Birds on the other hand are so behind that there are so many species everywhere that people want.
Wings of the World Expedition Pack
- Secretary Bird
- Pelican Species
- Duck Species (2)
- Greater Rhea
- Pheasant species
- Roseate Spoonbill
- Grey Crowned Crane
- American Flamingo
- Another Penguin
- Stork Species
- WTE bird (hummingbirds or budgies)
South America Top Meta Animal Global Rep Frontier work load They already got the big new rigs out of the way (kiwi, swan) in the last 2 packs, making it easier to make a pack like this, with only 2 new rigs (and WTE species). This imo would be the smartest decision they could make.
I dont think they are going to do a "just pick 2 wanted animals from each continent" because some regions have more needed species than others, for example, people want SA animals way more like 5+ rather than Oceania animals where they only want like 1 or 2. Birds on the other hand are so behind that there are so many species everywhere that people want.
Give me macaws here and we have a deal.Wonder if the recent birds have anything to do with it...
Wings of the World Expedition Pack
Birds
- Secretary Bird
- Pelican Species
- Duck Species (2)
- Greater Rhea
- Pheasant species
- Roseate Spoonbill
- Grey Crowned Crane
- American Flamingo
- Another Penguin
- WTE bird (hummingbirds or budgies)
They already got the big new rigs out of the way (kiwi, swan) in the last 2 packs, making it easier to make a pack like this, with only 2 new rigs (and WTE species). This imo would be the smartest decision they could make.
I dont think they are going to do a "just pick 2 wanted animals from each continent" because some regions have more needed species than others, for example, people want SA animals way more like 5+ rather than Oceania animals where they only want like 1 or 2. Birds on the other hand are so behind that there are so many species everywhere that people want.
Even while everyone here is wanting LA I think we all know the general public wants birds, and now that frontier has made it easier to make with some being clones and the swan now in, I don't see why this can't be possible. Its a unique concept, it has highly wanted animals from every continent (except Oceania but we just got 2 from there anyway) and it also makes sense for a spring themed pack. This would be the right decision in terms of a "how much of the community will not like the last pack" kind of standpoint.
I'm not ok with the game ending now, not before getting a new pack Focus on LATAM. I've waited four years to get the most important animals for my region of the world to just not get them at all. Sure we got the capybara and the maned wolf, but rhea, mara, coati, ocelot and at least another monkey are still missing and are essential for me. After them i would be at peace. Sure i want the blackbuck, secretary bird, crowned crane, pelican, Palla's cat, musk ox, markhor and thousands more birds but i can cope with them not making it officially in the game ( and honestly i personally don't really care about the tree roo, spectacled bear and baboons), BUT i do need at least more animals from my country/continent otherwise i would be very dissapointed and the game will never feel complete for me.
Australia got a lot (Australia, Oceania, Wetlands, Grasslands). Europe got a lot (Europe, Eurasia). NA got basically two packs (NA and Twilight). Even the Middle East got quite a lot last year. Is time for Latinamerica to take the Spotlight, even if it is the last pack.
Australia got a lot (Australia, Oceania, Wetlands, Grasslands). Europe got a lot (Europe, Eurasia). NA got basically two packs (NA and Twilight). Even the Middle East got quite a lot last year. Is time for Latinamerica to take the Spotlight, even if it is the last pack.
Mmm no but there is speculation that PZ might get a console release and that the dev team will be reasigned to new upcoming projects and there is not confirmation of more DLCs past April so a lot of people are assuming next pack might be the last.
I mean, people do want birds but I feel like this pack would be largely viewed as Frontier not understanding the assignment. People don't just want "birds." They want flighted birds, aviaries, etc. I can see the unfortunate cries of ducks and pelicans just being "swan clones" and "another penguin and no parrot."Wonder if the recent birds have anything to do with it...
Wings of the World Expedition Pack
Birds
- Secretary Bird
- Pelican Species
- Duck Species (2)
- Greater Rhea
- Pheasant species
- Roseate Spoonbill
- Grey Crowned Crane
- American Flamingo
- Another Penguin
- Stork Species
- WTE bird (hummingbirds or budgies)
They already got the big new rigs out of the way (kiwi, swan) in the last 2 packs, making it easier to make a pack like this, with only 2 new rigs (and WTE species). This imo would be the smartest decision they could make.
I think they'd need a few more WTE species for a certain segment of the fanbase to really get behind it. The draw isn't birds so much as the general aviary mechanic and having a versatile number of species from each continent. Especially with all the highly-requested mammals they'd be leaving on the table with this one...That said, this would honestly be a really solid pack from my perspective. Expands upon what they started with the swan, adds some highly-requested terrestrial species, etc. My one change would be swapping the penguin species for a puffin and having the WTE be a macaw or toucan. But either way this would get my money instantly. Haha.
I don't know that a "pick 2 from each continent" would really be a problem, though. Secretary bird for Africa, tree kangaroo for Oceania, 3 species from Latin America (coati, ocelot, howler monkey), 1 NA species, and 1 additional species from Africa or Asia (baboon or monkey). With a bird as a WTE. I honestly feel like that might go over better than an all-birds pack. And it would help with LA representation while still being able to work in other highly-wanted species.
But either way, I'm buying, so whatever. LOL
Thats a lot of work though for frontier though, Coati, Howler, Baboon, WTE bird and Tree Roo would all probably need a decent chunk of work, whereas with the bird pack a lot of the rigs are already supplied and hold great potential.
I don't think anyone would say this, from what I've seen people want Pelicans and ducks even more now that we actually have the rig. Like I said a lot of the bird rigs we have now have potential to be popular species and also not cause frontier a lot of time to make. Grey Crowned Crane is #9 on the meta, the rig is already there. Pelican and duck are probably the most wanted land birds at the moment which would also be clones.
I agree I think we could get these, but these feel like a thing where people will see it and be like "Wait so you can make birds, then give us _____ and __________ and so on. Hummingbirds and budgies while still birds aren't anything ground breaking compared to something like an eagle, macaw or toucan.
The overall point of my idea was to end with the majority of the community feeling good about the end of support and that this was a good ending, so in other words, "find any possible way to not give a cliffhanger or to not give people hope because this is the end but we're not gonna tell them" - frontier
I would cry if this was the final dlc (in a good way this time)Wonder if the recent birds have anything to do with it...
Wings of the World Expedition Pack
Birds
- Secretary Bird
- Pelican Species
- Duck Species (2)
- Greater Rhea
- Pheasant species
- Roseate Spoonbill
- Grey Crowned Crane
- American Flamingo
- Another Penguin
- Stork Species
- WTE bird (hummingbirds or budgies)
They already got the big new rigs out of the way (kiwi, swan) in the last 2 packs, making it easier to make a pack like this, with only 2 new rigs (and WTE species). This imo would be the smartest decision they could make.
I dont think they are going to do a "just pick 2 wanted animals from each continent" because some regions have more needed species than others, for example, people want SA animals way more like 5+ rather than Oceania animals where they only want like 1 or 2. Birds on the other hand are so behind that there are so many species everywhere that people want.
Probably not gonna happen though Haha
Is it, though? They have rigs for each of those species they could use as very solid starting points. As well as animations (which we know they can generate fairly quickly anyway based on what we know about their processes). For me, the birds would probably require a lot more detail, unique animations, etc. to really get right compared to most of the mammals in play. Any efficiency you gain from the flamingo would go out the window with the pelican, the added number of species, etc.
And, I mean, do any of us really know how much time/work any of these species take to make? I don't know that we do.
I think a lot of people would say it. Not the core group on the forums. But elsewhere it would almost definitely come up. The pelican and duck might be the saving grace but I can see all of the "missed opportunity" posts in my head from it still.
Obviously, it would do okay. But I don't think it would be a "game changer" or an "everybody loves it, yay this is an amazing last hurrah" DLC people would be hoping for with an avian-focused pack. Again, this is more my perspective on how the broader community would likely react versus my own opinion (which is that it would be a fun pack haha).
This is kinda the point I was making above about birds in general. With any flighted birds you're going to get that. Whether it's hummingbirds, budgies, parrots, eagles, whatever. It's going to come up. Because, at least as far as I can tell, for a lot of people the driver isn't "we want birds because they have beaks and feathers" it's "we want birds because they fly and can be kept in multi-species aviaries."
There's definitely people that want aquatic species like ducks, pelicans, and so on but the parrot platoon is significantly larger I think. Haha.