SRV Micro Stuttering

[OutofSpace]

Long winded post, so sorry and thank you for your time to read.

A number a weeks ago i was playing a pc game and i wanted to run through direct mode from my sound card, so i WIN key-R to desktop and put my sound card into direct mode but the sound went off on my game so i closed the sound card software and restarted it whilst the game was still running (mid match online golf game) sound back on but then my game began to freeze and at one point i couldn't even ALT-CTRL-DEL to close the game and restart my pc, so i hard shutdown my pc.

After rebooting my pc took much longer to load/start and when it did it was like wading through treacle. I tried to fix it by repairing windows but no luck so i reinstalled windows and still the same very slow pc.
Not knowing 100% what was causing the issue i bought and installed a new ssd drive and everything was back to normal, infact my pc seems faster than before my issues.
I installed the latest drivers including nvidia drivers and even updated bios and eagerly reinstalled the greatest game ever, Elite Odyssey.
All ok except now when i am in my SRV on a surface i get micro stuttering, especially when i turn or am going at speed or when i return to my ship to go to the hanger bay. Not on foot or in space, that is smooth as silk. This only happens when i am in the SRV. I definitely did not have this issue before. I have searched the web to see if there is a solution but it appears no one else is having this issue. I have read however that some people appear to be having general stuttering issues in other games with the latest nvidia drivers.
I'm kind of pulling my hair out as for me personally it is very immersion breaking as i love this game very much.

My hardware is:
ASUS Z490-f gaming
i7 10700 none k
RTX 3070
Soundblaster AE5

Primary SSD with windows 11 pro installed
Secondary HDD with Elite Odyssey installed
(i can't remember which drive i had Elite installed to before)

I play using a 144hz monitor at 60fps

Thank you for your time to read my post and thanks in advance for any help.

 

[xElijah]

rolling drivers back? reinstall on SSD? Both steps? When stutterings happening? While you are moving or idle?

 

[ImmerseMe]

Not when flying in a ship close to the surface? That'd be the same situation basically.

 

[Markov Chaney]

Not when flying in a ship close to the surface? That'd be the same situation basically.

The workload placed on the PC is not the same in these two situations, even though you'd think it would be. After I upgraded my rig at Christmas I spent ages re-tuning to get back to some soft of balance and it definitely has a different CPU/GPU balance in SRV compared to when you are flying. I suspect the simulation (not rendering) works quite differently when you're on surface in the SRV.

In the latest nVidia drivers I have noticed the power budget is more aggressive so in games that don't support nVidia Boost, it's clocking down way too often. It didn't cause me a stutter in ED but it did in some other games. That's easily fixed by using Afterburner and just overclocking by 1% so maybe that's worth a go for OP...

 

[Morbad]

Not knowing 100% what was causing the issue i bought and installed a new ssd drive and everything was back to normal, infact my pc seems faster than before my issues.

The cause of the original issue may or may not be relevant to your current one, but you should definitely identify the source of a problem before starting to replace parts at random.

I installed the latest drivers including nvidia drivers and even updated bios and eagerly reinstalled the greatest game ever, Elite Odyssey.

All ok except now when i am in my SRV on a surface i get micro stuttering, especially when i turn or am going at speed or when i return to my ship to go to the hanger bay. Not on foot or in space, that is smooth as silk. This only happens when i am in the SRV. I definitely did not have this issue before.

Can you consistently reproduce the issue in the SRV training scenario?

The workload placed on the PC is not the same in these two situations, even though you'd think it would be.

They even use different shadow profiles (flying over the surface in a ship is PlanetApproach while the SRV uses PlanetSurface), which hints at other rendering differences.

In the latest nVidia drivers I have noticed the power budget is more aggressive so in games that don't support nVidia Boost, it's clocking down way too often. It didn't cause me a stutter in ED but it did in some other games. That's easily fixed by using Afterburner and just overclocking by 1% so maybe that's worth a go for OP...

Setting the power management mode to "prefer maximum performance" in the NVIDIA control panel should prevent this from happening.

 

[varonica]

The workload placed on the PC is not the same in these two situations, even though you'd think it would be..

Well no you wouldn't think it would be, you aren't calculating surface contact and physics between the ship and the ground while you are with the SRV, an entirely different workload.

 

[OutofSpace]

Not when flying in a ship close to the surface? That'd be the same situation basically.

Thank you for your time to read and reply.
No. Everything runs smoothly until on the surface in the SRV.

 

[OutofSpace]

rolling drivers back? reinstall on SSD? Both steps? When stutterings happening? While you are moving or idle?

Thank you for your time to read and reply.
No i haven't yet rolled drivers back but thinking about doing it but i don't want other games effected. I am thinking of installing on the SSD but am waiting for another graphics driver to be released and try that first.
Stuttering happens when i am moving in the SRV, especially when turning or at high speed.

 

[OutofSpace]

The workload placed on the PC is not the same in these two situations, even though you'd think it would be. After I upgraded my rig at Christmas I spent ages re-tuning to get back to some soft of balance and it definitely has a different CPU/GPU balance in SRV compared to when you are flying. I suspect the simulation (not rendering) works quite differently when you're on surface in the SRV.

In the latest nVidia drivers I have noticed the power budget is more aggressive so in games that don't support nVidia Boost, it's clocking down way too often. It didn't cause me a stutter in ED but it did in some other games. That's easily fixed by using Afterburner and just overclocking by 1% so maybe that's worth a go for OP...

Thank you for your time to read and reply.
i'm no expert on PC's. I'm just about competent to build and set one up but in fear of causing damage i don't do the overclocking thing.
I forgot to list my RAM. It is 32 gig DDR4 3200hz but because my processor is 2933hz i have under clocked it in bios but i had it under clocked before my PC broke and there was no stuttering.

 

[OutofSpace]

The cause of the original issue may or may not be relevant to your current one, but you should definitely identify the source of a problem before starting to replace parts at random.



Can you consistently reproduce the issue in the SRV training scenario?



They even use different shadow profiles (flying over the surface in a ship is PlanetApproach while the SRV uses PlanetSurface), which hints at other rendering differences.



Setting the power management mode to "prefer maximum performance" in the NVIDIA control panel should prevent this from happening.

Thank you for your time to read and reply

I did some research and the symptoms of my slow PC matched the symptoms of a dying SSD and i do not know how to diagnose which hardware is at fault so i took a calculated risk.
I have not tried the training scenario but i will later.
Before the PC issue i had power management at balanced in windows and normal in control panel and it was smooth. I am wondering what ever damaged my SSD (or it just died of old age) may have done something to another hardware, i don't know but other games appear to be fine.

 

[OutofSpace]

Well no you wouldn't think it would be, you aren't calculating surface contact and physics between the ship and the ground while you are with the SRV, an entirely different workload.

Thank you for your time to read and reply.

When my PC failed i was messing with my sound card windows app and as i said, i froze my PC and had to hard shut it down. I do wonder if it is a sound issue and i may change to onboard sound but to be fair i doubt that is the issue.

 

[OutofSpace]

Thanks for your help guys and if i find what is causing the issue i will let you know, so as to help someone else who may search the forums in the future with the same issue.

o7

 

[Markov Chaney]

Setting the power management mode to "prefer maximum performance" in the NVIDIA control panel should prevent this from happening.

True, I always forget that! Worth OP giving that a try.

 

[xElijah]

Thank you for your time to read and reply.
No i haven't yet rolled drivers back but thinking about doing it but i don't want other games effected. I am thinking of installing on the SSD but am waiting for another graphics driver to be released and try that first.
Stuttering happens when i am moving in the SRV, especially when turning or at high speed.

with your rig you should not worry much about drivers affecting other games except for Crysis3 remastered maybe and CP2077. Besides, you can always create restore point and return back. About SSD, HDD and other hardware - there are many progz for analyzing health, hunger, tiredness and other stats, just type in your browser "top 169 progz for hardware analysing 2024".

 

[OutofSpace]

with your rig you should not worry much about drivers affecting other games except for Crysis3 remastered maybe and CP2077. Besides, you can always create restore point and return back. About SSD, HDD and other hardware - there are many progz for analyzing health, hunger, tiredness and other stats, just type in your browser "top 169 progz for hardware analysing 2024".

Thanks. I'll look into a hardware analyzer but even so when it gives me a report i don't know if i would be able to make head nor tail out of the report figures but one must learn.
I certainly don't want to take my PC to a computer repairer. Last time i did that i went into a pc repair shop for a new power lead for a laptop that was turning it's self off as that was what i believed was the problem and he offered to do a hardware check for me and when i eventually got the laptop back after many phone calls it was was rattling and wouldn't even turn on, completely dead.
So i sent it to pc world and they said the memory wasn't installed properly and "oh by the way you need a new power lead". The guy at the PC repair shop (not PC world) knew less than i did about computers, so that's basically nothing!
Anyway, just been playing EO a bit but the micro stuttering in the SRV is so annoying i had to turn it off, it's that bad. I was on a low G body but the stuttering made it feel like it was a high G body. I can't play it like that.
Something is very wrong with my pc somewhere.

 

[xElijah]

Thanks. I'll look into a hardware analyzer but even so when it gives me a report i don't know if i would be able to make head nor tail out of the report figures but one must learn.
I certainly don't want to take my PC to a computer repairer. Last time i did that i went into a pc repair shop for a new power lead for a laptop that was turning it's self off as that was what i believed was the problem and he offered to do a hardware check for me and when i eventually got the laptop back after many phone calls it was was rattling and wouldn't even turn on, completely dead.
So i sent it to pc world and they said the memory wasn't installed properly and "oh by the way you need a new power lead". The guy at the PC repair shop (not PC world) knew less than i did about computers, so that's basically nothing!
Anyway, just been playing ED a bit but the micro stuttering is so annoying i had to turn it off, it's that bad. I was on a low G body but the stuttering made it feel like it was a high G body. I can't play it like that.
Something is very wrong with my pc somewhere.

oh, don't worry, there are many video and text tutorials and also user interface is pretty self-explainable in 95% of those progz. About fixxxers...well, they happens only way out is finding good one with zupa reputation in your city or even an IT friend who can at least give a good advice. About these stutters I can't say anything because I'm playing on old 2009th year produced PCya and have them all over (stutters ). Especially on planetsides by the way - what about dust inside your? How long ago you cleaned her?

 

[OutofSpace]

About these stutters I can't say anything because I'm playing on old 2009th year produced PCya and have them all over (stutters ). Especially on planetsides

I'm sorry to hear that. Now i sound like a spoiled brat.
I had to save for my PC working double my contracted hours for a number of weeks. I wanted it for Odyssey at a time when graphics cards were at silly prices, they still are, imo.

 

[xElijah]

I'm sorry to hear that. Now i sound like a spoiled brat.
I had to save for my PC working double my contracted hours for a number of weeks. I wanted it for Odyssey at a time when graphics cards were at silly prices, they still are, imo.

nah don't sorry please I'm waiting for complete new rig that is stuck somewhere on china border because of holidays have you tried also typing in your browser : "elite dangerous odyssey stutters on planets in srv" ? I see many pages and specifically this advice I deem interesting:
"If you have an nvidia card, other games needs "latency" in the driverHQ set to "ultra".
(otherwise it will stutter & freeze like you describe: new Doom is one such game)
cheers"
maybe will help? I take it that yours is new and there should be no dust at all inside. To tell the truth there may be so many causes, so it could be hard a bit to find roots, from software to hardware full reinstallings...
well, hope you'll find a way out, I'll cross fingers for you fly safe and happy and not hungry please

 

[OutofSpace]

nah don't sorry please I'm waiting for complete new rig that is stuck somewhere on china border because of holidays have you tried also typing in your browser : "elite dangerous odyssey stutters on planets in srv" ? I see many pages and specifically this advice I deem interesting:
"If you have an nvidia card, other games needs "latency" in the driverHQ set to "ultra".
(otherwise it will stutter & freeze like you describe: new Doom is one such game)
cheers"
maybe will help? I take it that yours is new and there should be no dust at all inside. To tell the truth there may be so many causes, so it could be hard a bit to find roots, from software to hardware full reinstallings...
well, hope you'll find a way out, I'll cross fingers for you fly safe and happy and not hungry please

Thank you xKristina! o7

 

[Morbad]

Quickest way to see if anything is obviously wrong is probably to turn off vsync and/or your frame rate limiter, fire up the game, drive the SRV around for a bit, and look at task manager while the game window is in focus (either in windowed mode or with task manger on a separate screen). Significant load on any of your drives, or low load on both all CPU cores and the GPU (especially when away from settlements), are signs of underlying problems.