SRVs and Guardian Sites

use the free camera
Yes. I’m in free camera all of the time in the SRV. Left hand on the throttle lever (with drive assist OFF, of course - like any sane person with the most rudimentary understanding of the SRV), right hand on the mouse to look around all the time, and feet on the pedals for left and right turns (same as yaw in the ship).
 
Now I remember why I stopped playing Elite Dangerous all those years ago...

SRV controls: abysmal
Navigating Guardian Sites: abysmal

There's a reason other games include such things as legible ground maps and waypoints to mark discoveries: it's to compensate for the fact that the game monitor can only give 60 degrees of view (or whatever it is), and that there is no sense of motion/orientation while you are sitting in your chair.

Good job on the "realism" you were aiming for, FDev.

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~Folly
The key to the SRV for me is using the pitch axis on my stick as throttle (forward and backward) and the yaw axis for steering.

When I let go of the stick, the SRV stops.

And as others have said, turn off drive assist...
 
Possibly because you, me, and others here have taken time to learn how to drive the SRV on any surface / gravity whilst playing?
tbf though, Frontier have removed most of the incentive for driving the car. Raw mats? Shoot brain trees, complain about limpets not working. Who needs to collect raws from nodes/meteors? Data? We loaded up missions like you wouldn't believe!!! Do settlement datanode scans? Are you outta ya mind! Manufactured? HGEs & trade baby! You don't even need to drive 'round old Davs anymore, not that that was ever a good way to get 'em but don't mention that to the youtubers! Not to mention all those interesting POI that used to be worth doing before the economy bloated like a dying sun.

No one sabotages their game like Frontier does.
 
Turn off drive assist.
Out of curiosity, could someone explain how the SRV behaves with drive assist on?

I don't know if it's because I'm using a game controller, but I don't remember it ever being on, and I have always driven the SRV with it off, and the handling has always felt perfectly polished and balanced, at least for a game controller. (I could try it, but I'm current in Colonia without an SRV. I suppose I could buy one and try it, but a more accurate description of the problem might be better.)

Of course even with drive assist off, driving on a low-gravity slippery surface is like trying to walk on wet ice. However, it requires only a bit of practice and it becomes pretty natural. Analog triggers help tremendously because they allow fine-tuned driving speed. In fact, a couple of years ago I made a video for a similar thread demonstrating how it is to drive with a game controller (and drive assist off) on a low-gravity ice surface: You just have to be careful with your speed:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmjohM3DCYE


(Ah, the good old times when shadows worked perfectly and didn't clip annoyingly. Most notable at the end of the video...)
 
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TBH, with the benefit of hindsight, I'm pretty sure FDev created the Guardian sites as a way to train players in advanced use of the SRV.

Back in the days when ED was all about Urns and Caskets, I arrived at my first Guardian site thinking I was pretty good at driving the SRV.
6 months later, I was driving the SRV from the turret, heading in one direction while shooting in a different direction, bunny-hopping up steps and generally whizzing around the sites like I was flying a tiny spaceship.

Pretty sure those sites are intended to be difficult.
The SRV can cope with them.
It's up to you to develop the skill required.

Navigation is rudimentary.
It'd be nice if there was some kind of site-map, which you could look at and add waypoints to.
I used to use the camera suite as if it was a "drone".
Switch to the external camera, zoom out, look down on the SRV and then move the camera around the site to find what I'm looking for, paying attention to the direction and any landmarks between the SRV and my goal.

If FDev really wanted to go the extra mile (perhaps for exobio' nowadays) it'd be nice if they could add a proper "drone" to the SRV.
You press a button to launch it and you get a small, low-res image from the drone in the cockpit view.
Controlling it would simply be up, down, left, right to move it forward, backward, left, right and there's be a "modifier" button which, when pressed, would allow L/R to rotate the drone and U/D would tilt the camera up or down. Altitude would be fixed and you'd have no control of it.
Double-pressing the button would reset the orientation of the drone and long-pressing the button would return it to your SRV.
These controls would mean you'd have total control of the drone using a single hat-switch and one joystick button as the modifier for the controls.
 
The SRV is simply unfit for purpose. It's crap by design. I can drive the flaming turd but that doesn't mean it isn't a flaming turd. Just because we can learn to deal with it's quirks doesn't mean we should accept it. When they made it so most of the things we land on are low G they can also build a proper SRV than handles them.

It handles them just fine as long as you have the skill or you don't try and drive like Schumacher.

If you keep the speed low (and at guardian sites, you definitely don't need to go fast) then it handles fine under any conditions.

A reminder to everyone who doesn't consider it, 30 m/s is equal to 108 kph. That's highway speed driving. Even at 10 m/s you're still doing almost 40, the same speed you drive around town streets most likely, which is still a decent turn of speed given the terrain.

You know of any real world vehicles that could handle bumpy low grip surfaces in a variety of G from low to high, at highway speeds?

The Scarab is an amazing machine and does a sterling job.
 
How is it I really enjoy all the things the OP is complaining about? My only advice I can give is use the free camera when you've lost your bearings.
Gotta member also that most of the places your driving on have hardly any gravity, so there's no friction for those wheels to dig into. Idk it takes finesse on the controls and throttle and not button mashing.

I switch to turret view to get my bearings.

One hand on the steering wheel, one on the mouse for controlling the turret, and pedals for drive. Its how i do combat as well.
 
ok mistypes happen lol
Indeed they do :ROFLMAO:
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