Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

CIG obviously have something going on, they aren't moving in to a huge new building and hiring 700 new staff for nothing, but I don't get why he would need to move, he can do what he does from anywhere, he currently hosts his show from home.
Nothing is what it seems with CI-G though is it? All those shell companies. Who knows what the hell they are doing with all that backers money. Not giving it to charity, that's for sure.
 
Not sure I understand this. Are you suggesting that CIG business model is not based in one of the heaviest and wildest monetizations out there all the while having been in the red not too long ago and even needing external investors (which Chris Roberts personally stated long ago to not need)?
No
Or are you just saying that you don’t feel personally and anecdotally subject to that monetization or concerned by those obvious finance management issues?
Yes. I can play the game all day long and not be begged to pledge for something.
 
Well, heck. I have here a fine, fine slightly in-stock capital ship that crews no more than eighty of the finest commandos and crewteams this side of Stanton. Now see, look, c'mere...closer, closer. Now, son, it don't look like much now but imagine -- use that powerful tool all our brains come standard with -- imagine you're out there, deep in the black, and all your friends are aboard, and yer fighting with dozens of other capital ships, dozens of em, lasers 'n missiles firing and twinklin' like a million far off stars. You can't tell me that wouldn't just be swell, right? And you can see it, right?

So yeah, just plop down some creds friend (none of that aUEwhatever, Warbond only here I'm afraid -- man's gotta eat, ya see) and why in just a few scant years, maybe just even two, all that imaginary fightin' and hollerin' and fun-havin' will be real. Real as the dirt under your t-pose model, yessir.

Now, course, now that you've purchased said capital fun-having ship, I think it might be time to tell you (not now, course, but just after the refund window -- ah, there we go) that, well -- dang, I just ain't got no better way to put it -- we ain't really know how any of that is really gonna work. Sure, sure we had a plan, sorta, but every engineer in the gosh danged system kept saying its absolutely impossible, that it'd probably take a dozen years of solid R&D, new global technological advancements and blah blah...well we fired all those guys, brought in a new team of Full Sail grads, and they done got down to the task at hand.

Okay, now, yes, they failed. But they tried! You shoulda seen 'em, all their hopes and dreams crushed, working fifteen hours a day trying to understand code written by a drunk Turkish fella nearly a decade ago. Sure, sure, yes, they couldn't even understand a quarter of it, but they kept on anyway, adding new and vast improvements -- yes, sure, right, look: they do break often. But they tried, dangit. That's gotta count for something out here in this godsforsaken sector.

So after them kids left we brought these new guys in and they are saying some good stuff -- well, son, I mean good for us. Not for you. Because they straight up said that those fun-havin' dreams of yours are just that: dreams. But hey, you gotta love those realists! Boy, I sure do. But yeah, sorry son, no big battles out in the black. Heck, if you're in a big ol capital ship like the fine, semi-useless one you just purchased from me, you might not even ever fight another capital ship the entire time you're playing. Not cuz they scared o ya, but just because our servers can't handle the load without causing some type of singularity. I think some of them Full Sail grads got sucked into the first one, and boy howdy, we really don't wanna see that happen to any other nice kids round these parts.

Anyway, enjoy the loads of lore bout your brand spankin' new ship that, uh, lemme see here, might actually be in the game and playable...sometime in...2026? Is that right? 2026...at the earliest?! Earl, is that crap right?! But we started selling these darn things in 2013! Uh, I mean, yessir, delivery will be any day now!

Any day...
My god now that's an absolute wall of text to say nothing other than "CIG Spaceship salesmen, news at 11"
 
CIG obviously have something going on, they aren't moving in to a huge new building and hiring 700 new staff for nothing, but I don't get why he would need to move, he can do what he does from anywhere, he currently hosts his show from home.

Well, i think i can answer at least part of it, or speculate at least.

Chris likes the trappings of success, therefore big offices full of people is what he wants. He's not thinking about COVID, for him its probably horrible, not being able to walk around the office, looking over people's shoulders, telling them which pixels to change the colour of.

So that's why he'd like Hobo in an office. Why the UK office? Maybe because Chris is going and wants his main yes man by his side? Someone who will nod and agree with everything CR says?
 

Minus the money spent on marketing (and yes, they do external marketing, i get promoted google ads for SC, those don't come for free). Minus the money they give to themselves as dividends. And who knows what else they are spending money on that isn't related to development of the game(s)?
 
Yes. I can play the game all day long and not be begged to pledge for something.

Of course you can. You don't have to give CIG any more money at all.

They do need more money though. Game is still years away from being in a releasable state despite having taken in around half a billion dollars. CIG do need more money. If not your money, then someone else's.

Are you going to rely on others providing the required money? Or will you do your part?

Answer the Call.
 

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Yes. I can play the game all day long and not be begged to pledge for something.
Fair, you can play “something” indeed. The game has not been completed, never mind released yet though. Far from it. So, as I enquired earlier:
Do you really think that if sales were to stop today Chris Roberts would be able to finish the game as sold and promised?
If your answer is no, then that‘d mean Chris Roberts is still, quite literally, begging for our money to be able to do it. 10 years on and 400 millions later he is still begging for our money just to be able to finish what he sold (while getting a nice fat pay check plus dividends for him and his family in the process of course). Wether you or me decide to give it to him or not is pretty much irrelevant to that fact.
 
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Or, as i said, CR (or someone else from CIG) told him it would create 700 new jobs.

CIGs own statement says as much.
Who tells the prime minister all the bogus crap? No, I think the mayor has it's own interest in blowing up a success story.
We had our mayor following though with some big project even though the bank found out the foreign contractor wasn't anything of that global Korean industry conglomerate but only using the name to fake his company up. But it was the World Conference Center, right? So the contracts were signed.
Once the citizens of Manchester find out it's a husk of a building they financed with city money - they mayor will be elsewhere and Robbers, too.
 
It's a game now? Like a playable and released game? Then certainly it can be reviewed as one!
I dont get this line of reasoning.

1) We, as in gamers in general, do review games long before they are officially 'released'. Go to any regular gaming site with an article about SC and you'll find plenty of people giving you their review of the game. Usually in very few words, some or most of them censored.

2) 'Professional' media outlets rarely review games in 'early access', and the definition of EA is simply 'it is EA if the studio calls it such'. The upside for CIG is that there are no official reviews tearing it apart. The downside is that the game is known as "oh, that weird crappy project still in EA after a million years." Its up to the studio to determine if the upside is worth the downside.

As the years go by the "its still early days, its in EA!" becomes less convincing to more and more people and the upside of no professional reviews also diminishes as its reputation in general gaming circles is about as low as it can be anyway. If IGN wrote a piece saying "we officially consider SC to be buggy and shallow with terrible performance" that would change absolutely nobody's mind at all. Some would say:"Its early days!", most will say:"Duh, we know."

But yeah, it is a game that is playable to some extend, and enjoyable to some people. For reasons you can fully disagree with, but there clearly is a game of sorts that people play.
 
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