ED Planets are good doing what they do best, orbital mechanics and being realistic barren rocks.That must be some kind of hidden praise for Elite there, but a praise nonetheless no?
In terms of Planets SC certainly does it better now.
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Viajero
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Oh? 1:1 planet scales in SC already? Planets orbiting? Astrophysics based atmosphere chemical composition and related lighting?
Wrong. They don't even have orbits. Fake.
Well, purely terrain and foliage and locations to visit. Didn't mean Orbital Mechanics or scale.
Once again, they have been working on this one, incomplete system for years.
Viajero
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Well why not? Those also count in order to establish who does planets better. What about astrophysics based ground material composition or atmosphere chemical elements and related lighting? What about related geological activity and bio elements based on those too? That level of coherence is much more important to many players than just random snow in SC. Do I need to add a few more aspects where ED does planets much better than SC?
All this goes to show, as usual, that most of your posts are simply a reflection of your personal and anecdotal views on the matter. Different players appreciate different things in planet simulation and SC is far from being better than Elite´s in many respects, not the least of them being that it is not even 1 system complete. Heck, it is even worst than NMS or Space Engineers planets in many other aspects including terrain modification or actual surface gameplay feature interaction by players.
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Of course they did. Have you seen how much they charge for DLC? Again though, with half the development staff, where is that money going? Is it really going to be something bigger in scale than RDR2, because being too big ended up being a criticism for that game.
And what's the problem with this? It's not holding up anything else as thats what the planet tech team does, expanding and evolving planet features and tech.
SC was never supposed to be scientifically accurate, while ED was. SC's planetary surfaces have much more features than EDs.
Viajero
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So SC planets are not better than Elite in many regards. Nor better than NMS or Space Engineers in many others. SC therefore has not better planets, nor has CIG "done it better". Far from it at not even a single system complete. That is just your personal and anecdotal view on the matter.
That image shows you where the money is going.
Given the nature of landable planets in ED, your second sentence rather supports the reason for the first.
With only $5m left net. Which they gave to their investors as ROI. Yes.
That explains where the money has gone. Not why so much has gone to date, with the product so far from a deliverable state though.
(Let alone: Why are they paying out ROI when the product is so far from a deliverable state?
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Sorry, couldn't resist, seems exactly like something a faithful backer would say unironically.
To hear some talk they already exist on some secret dev build! My guess is, it will go the same way as Stanton.
Concept art is just that, easy to do, hard to implement.
That doesn't sound very fidelitious! But counterpoint, there are a lot more systems that are a whole lot more complex than Stanton. Sol, Terra, the alien core systems. Sol alone will make Stanton look like a weekend project in comparison.
Shame since backers paid for them. Oh well, just another thing CIG sold but then failed to deliver on.
So, 5-10 systems? Which ones. Stanton is in. You say Pyro and Nyx are going in. That's 3 out of 5 minimum. Which others will make the cut? How about out of 10? Will players ever get to visit the alien systems? Will players ever get to visit Sol? Will CIG ever update the starmap to show what they will realistically deliver on?
My point stands. What they are delivering isn't what was sold. We can already see the shape of the future product to some extent and can see that. Alpha now, alpha in the future, maybe beta at some point, possibly release, and none of it will be what CR sold.
Just because it's scientifically accurate doesn't mean you can add a lot. They could add lava streams, volcanos, water, bulges at the equator, clouds, weather effects. Even with being scientifically accurate, Elite lacks a lot of planet features that astronomers have discovered in exoplanets.
Laughs in Chris Roberts
Well that is just my opinion. Ambitious kickstarters can fail, they can be too amitious. But no amount of salt spewing on online forums can change this, so I think its cool they're doing what they're doing especially because I've not played anything like it.
No it won't. They'll get implemented as fully complete systems.
Still something to orientate your city after.
Sol and Terra will be worked on after release, they've confirmed this iirc. But let's take the vanduul system Orion. 3 Planets and a Gas Giant, no landing zones. Of course they will need to concept Vanduul architecture and settlements but their ships are already actively being worked on (and are pretty much done) for Squadron 42.
Cano is probably gonna come after Pyro & Nyx. Has a waterplanet so thats gonna be the last planet type they'll have to develop. Cano jumppoint is connecting pyro aswell.
Pyro also has Jumppoints to Castra, Nyx & Hadrian. CIG will most likely update the Ark Starmap when the ingame starmap rework is complete which is actively being worked on, but really no clue on this.
Yes, CR sold a space trading simulator with a faked transition down to planets, Star Citizen will not be what was originally sold.
Man he'll have to divide himself if he wants to personally oversee 1000 people.
All this on airless or thin atmosphere planets? Really?
It would be nice to have this for thicker atmosphere planets, but as you say, ED is intended to me more realistic than SC, so it'll require more work than SC to be judged equivalent.