Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Viajero

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I don't know this subreddit, it was the first result given by Google on my search (because I don't have hundred of bookmarks of what every one say about SC).
Sure. And yet, you consciously did that very specific search on a very specific hating topic related to hating on a very specific person. And you even considered it was relevant to necro post that hate here, in addition to spamming hate memes about the same person constantly, even if others have let it die more than 5 years ago.

You knew full well what you were searching for and where. If that is not actual hate on a very specific person I do not know what is.

I don't hate Derek, he was fun at the time.

Sure, then you should not have had any problems referring to this as "people having fun" as well instead of "haters". But you did not. Either way your constant "hater" ad hominem in the thread is laughable at best, given you also partake in your own particular and personal kind of hate.
 
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You asked what is a hater, I give you my explanation with a link to a hater... You can also go to the refund, if you want to see more recent haters.
I did, and I appreciate your open minded answer.

No. And for now I don't see any game in competition with SC.
That is your stated opinion and that's fair, now do you think your opinion is 100% representative of every other backer/purchaser/whatever of SC?
 
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Nah, I'm way past refunds. Honestly, I chalk it up to being far too eager and not paying attention to the red flags because I wanted the game to really happen so badly. For me, it's a valuable lesson earned the hard way, with 5+ years of hope, and $600 of hard earned money. I'll take my lumps.
 
You asked what is a hater, I give you my explanation with a link to a hater... You can also go to the refund, if you want to see more recent haters.


No. And for now I don't see any game in competition with SC.
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I am a CI haterlover because I want CI to succeed according to my definition of success:
  • toss the Roberts clan away from anywhere near the project
  • cobble together whatever SQ42 can be cobbled together*
  • sod off into this good night
* although by now I am probably better off playing modded, polished SF in a year or so, replaying Infinite Warfare or finally trying out that WC fan campaign using FreeSpace Open
 
But CI-G aren’t doing that. They are begging people to buy them enough sandbags to ramp them up to the top.
What gets me is the people who simultaneously say "you don't have to buy anything but the base package" and also "quit telling people how to spend their money!" when people agree to the "No Cash Til Pyro" campaign some folks are supporting.

They know if someone buys the base package, CIG's tactics will eventually get them to buy something else. That is the nature of this type of fundraising. Many people can resist that for a long time, but 11 years is a VERY long time, and not everyone can resist that kind of marketing pitch.

Yes, I take full responsibility for my choices in buying what I did, but I can also see where manipulation is used on people, and so while it is your responsibility not to buy more, I do understand why people actually buy more and more and more until they're Concierge, or Legatus whatever, because they think by doing this they're helping build the game, they're funding the dream.

Like I said, I really do like the devs, I like the community support teams, I'd wager most of the people at CIG are very good people and just want to make a great game. I want to say the marketing team is just doing their jobs, but their jobs are literally to get people to fund the game more and more even after 11 years where $600 million is still somehow not enough for the fundamentals of the game to be working. So I have little for them, to be honest.

That said, I put full responsibility for all of this directly at the feet of Chris. He's the one who signs off on all of it, and he's become very wealthy in the process of building his dream game. He's already won his own game. Even if development stopped tomorrow, he's already comfortable for a lifetime. The only people who will end up feeling the sting are the devs, the backers, and whatever fallout occurs in the gaming community and fundraising.

What's worse, to me, is I guarantee you that the day those servers go dark, there will still be people who have pledged $15,000+ yelling at backers for not having enough faith. I want to reach them, but I do realize that, like gambling, the sunk cost fallacy takes over and desperation kicks in, and there's not much you can do for them except ride it out, and hope they eventually understand.

This isn't some big, grand, dramatic epic story in gaming, it's just kind of sad, really, and we talk about it because there's 1,000 developers, millions of backers, and a lot of hopes and dreams involved in this debacle, and humans like to commiserate about their losses.
 
Sure. And yet, you consciously did that very specific search on a very specific hating topic related to hating on a very specific person.
I don't understand you. "90 days tops" is a fun expression, nothing more for me. I even have some difficulty to understand exactly what's "tops" mean in english here but as I seen it used a lot on the SC subreddit I use it also a lot. The google search was done in 1 min and I even don't see the URL or on which subreddit I was before copy paste.
But it seem you've decided I'm a hater of Mr Derek. I see I can't change that with any argument so believe what you want, I don't care. Just understand that when I say "90 days tops" I refer to any guy thinking that the end of CIG is around the corner, not Derek Smart.
 
I am a CI haterlover because I want CI to succeed according to my definition of success:
  • toss the Roberts clan away from anywhere near the project
  • cobble together whatever SQ42 can be cobbled together*
  • sod off into this good night
* although by now I am probably better off playing modded, polished SF in a year or so, replaying Infinite Warfare or finally trying out that WC fan campaign using FreeSpace Open
Starfield will get modded, but it will NEVER be polished.
 
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