As if scope creep in one game isn't enough?Holy crap, they also copyrighted an MMO name in June:
'SOULSINGER'
Is Tony Z going to emerge from the woods?
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Nooooo....Stu has been digging...
Ortwin's retirement / golden yacht membership pretty much confirmed...
Makes me think they Calders aren't eyeing the Q1 2025 lever then. (Unless they can cream that extra 6% off? And think CIG are good for it?)
Could make sense for any 2028 level pull though? IE more for the 3yr multiplier etc.
On the face of it though, they're still nesting with the golden goose. And ignoring the weirdly-shaped eggs
In my upcoming crowdfunded show Clown Imperium, the character "Ortmuth" was going to lead the legal team in battle against Uppity Backers.
I pictured him as an Uberwaldian Lawyer. A bit pale and lurking in the shadows.
I've got to rework the whole script now. Again!
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Have him reinvent himself as: The long-haired wise-lawyer who inspires THE SOULSINGER!
(I believe he would mullet with German assiduousness...)
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I would be extremely surprised if Ortwin got 20 $ million+, and the Calders let that go without any kind of challenge and, according to CIG public info, without any kind of returns to their 60 mill investment for over 6 years. Extremely surprised.Stu has been digging...
Ortwin's retirement / golden yacht membership pretty much confirmed...
Makes me think they Calders aren't eyeing the Q1 2025 lever then. (Unless they can cream that extra 6% off? And think CIG are good for it?)
Could make sense for any 2028 level pull though? IE more for the 3yr multiplier etc.
On the face of it though, they're still nesting with the golden goose. And ignoring the weirdly-shaped eggs
In last year´s UK filing CIG stated they had no spare cash to compensate the Calders as all cash from sales was allegedly used in operations. If I was Clive or Keith and somehow CIG had now found a way to give Ortwin 20 $ million, I would be a tad upset.
Of course if CIG has been siphoning money to the Calders all this time somehow, and without telling the players, all bets are off.
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Soulsinger is gonna make for a big keynote at Citcon - excellent!
We get to see how long Soulsinger is allowed on Spectrum - tick tock tick tock
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So we have something new coming? - Star Citizen Spectrum
Searching the internet and noticed a new trademark was requested by CIG. Do we have something new coming?????
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In that scenario the $$$ would have come from the Calders themselves though right? IE they would have bought the shares of Ortwin primarily (as they've ended up the majority of his shares etc).
Like Stu I'd be amazed if he got the past rate for the shares though.
(I'm surprised enough that the Calders wanted to amass any more
)They'll need a few years to build a studio for the new game first. Then they're going to need to learn how to use Unreal Engine, because you know CIG had been eyeing the new candy in the competing engine they can't switch Star Citizen to.
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Good use of SC players sales money!We get to see how long Soulsinger is allowed on Spectrum - tick tock tick tock
So we have something new coming? - Star Citizen Spectrum
Searching the internet and noticed a new trademark was requested by CIG. Do we have something new coming?????
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Viajero
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In that scenario the $$$ would have come from the Calders themselves though right? IE they would have bought the shares of Ortwin primarily (as they've ended up the majority of his shares etc).
Like Stu I'd be amazed if he got the past rate for the shares though.
(I'm surprised enough that the Calders wanted to amass any more
Sure. I, like the Calders, am also the kind of savvy investor that would pour another $20+ millions on top of a $60 million investment that has yielded pretty much... no returns in over 6 years and where my counterparty is telling me in a UK official filing that they wont have any spare cash over operational costs to buy back my put option for the foreseeable future.
Of course if CIG has been siphoning reasonable amounts of money to the Calders all this time somehow instead of using it for SC, and without telling the players, all bets are off.
At most, I suspect the Calders have been given the shares in lieu of returns or as compensation for delayed returns. But the money to pay Ortwin off I would be surprised if it has come out from the Calders pocket unless it was a fire sale.
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Top comment on the sub...
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1fdouad/new_cig_game_at_citizencon_soulsinger_trademark/
EDIT: The primary 'nowt to see' response is that: Because Star Engine is tagged the same way, it must just be some new undisclosed tech...
Elsewhere pitchforks are bobbing though
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1fdouad/new_cig_game_at_citizencon_soulsinger_trademark/
EDIT: The primary 'nowt to see' response is that: Because Star Engine is tagged the same way, it must just be some new undisclosed tech...
Elsewhere pitchforks are bobbing though
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That's the portal to the fantasy MMO...
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According to most hardcore fans, CIG never promised a realistic universe, hence the green nebula - and it's great! (no joke, that's what I've been told when I asked about it and someone dared to say they didn't quite like it)
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Soulsinger is a smart move. With not two, but three games in development, they'll have plenty more excuses why they can't finish a single game. Buy an Idrissoul!