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Maybe not payroll tight. Maybe worried about making a very large payment to some investors who have told them they will be exercising an option to pull their investment.

I kinda doubt the whole Calders war chest angle. The numbers involved suggest CIG would never be able to pay it without liquidating. (And that's certainly the argument they presented in the accounts).

I reckon if they were preparing for that lever being pulled they'd do so by squirrelling money away for themselves, while maintaining appearances to entice alternate investors. (Which would look pretty similar perhaps ;)).

I just don't see any 'rescue package' really meeting the Calders' demands.

(I also don't think the Cs are gonna pull the lever given their Ortwin share buy-up. If payback already looks shaky, why invest in more shares? That kinda signalled they were still in for the long-haul to me. But I'd still expect more power being wielded behind the scenes as a result.)

Think this might just be standard hubris coming home to roost. CIG expanded on the understanding that the golden goose would keep pooping eggs...

This is CIG-land. Anything is possible ;)
 
This is the hardcore muppetry ;)

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  • Two early $$$ behemoths confirmed to be post 1.0
  • A rushed CCU-chain novelty getting a fix to make it actually usable
  • Another SQ42 military exclusive being considered for sale
  • 'We're working on latest $$$ behemoth right now!'
 

Viajero

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I also don't think the Cs are gonna pull the lever given their Ortwin share buy-up. If payback already looks shaky, why invest in more shares?
Correct me if I am wrong but afaik there is no confirmation the Calders bought those shares, or if they did, at which price and with what conditions (fire sale, increased returns etc). No?
 
Correct me if I am wrong but afaik there is no confirmation the Calders bought those shares, or if they did, at which price and with what conditions (fire sale, increased returns etc). No?

Unknown yeah. Although a freebie seems unlikely, and a cut-price sale more-so.

Assuming they weren't free, it does beg the question: Why would the Calders increase their stake in the company if they were queueing up to bail? (Given the claims that their prior holding couldn't be recompensed as it is).

I dunno, it could still be a 'maximise the payout' move, but seems at odds to me. On the surface at any rate.
 

Viajero

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Unknown yeah. Although a freebie seems unlikely, and a cut-price sale more-so.

Assuming they weren't free, it does beg the question: Why would the Calders increase their stake in the company if they were queueing up to bail? (Given the claims that their prior holding couldn't be recompensed as it is).

I dunno, it could still be a 'maximise the payout' move, but seems at odds to me. On the surface at any rate.
Pretty sure the ones who paid off those shares (or most of those shares), if there was a pay off, where the players, not the Calders. Either that or a fire sale.
 
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Noticed a couple of bigger leavers who'd updated recently. A long-term Snr Level Designer in Germany. And more intriguingly. Robbie Elms:

The son of long-term CR associate Nick Elms, the Creative Director of SQ42, Robbie was Lead Designer on SQ42, focused on flight sections:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nk_RXw17oc&t=2750s

mentioned in this here forum more the 10 years go :ROFLMAO:

 

you dont think that has anything do to with last year there was a brand new rsi big mining jpeg ship that sold for 550 bucks vs this year when there isnt anything?

 
you dont think that has anything do to with last year there was a brand new rsi big mining jpeg ship that sold for 550 bucks vs this year when there isnt anything?


For sure yep, but you'd think a 'flight ready' Polaris would be a bit more punchy.

I guess dreams trump reality ;)
 
Bwahaha.

According to an Inforunners chat with John Crewe...

They're just faking the Retaliator modularity. They have to make a full variant of the ship for each different loadout combination 😁

(Which was easy enough for the Tali 'proof of concept' as it only has 2 slots - and only 2 modules implemented. Of the 4 proposed.)

But that sure as hell can't scale...


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXQtd8f5E_M&t=683s

Now you take a nightmare ship like the caterpillar and it's got four modules, then the nose. I think he said they were up over 250 variants. And they've got to build, and all the things that could go wrong with one ship, and then you got to do 250. That's more ships than they've got currently in the entire game right. So they they have to build a system that really makes modularity actually work, so they actually put the proper modules in, because at the moment they're kind of faking It with variants of ships, right. So you now take that, put it onto the Endeavor, where it has three slots essentially and then multiple different combinations of all these different modules. I can't even begin to do the math, it's literally nightmare fuel.

It does fit with how CIG's rolled out later modular ships. Often with just one slot rather than a slew of them etc.

And, like, the fact that they still haven't even got the other Tali modules out, let alone the other ships done ;)
 
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