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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
rootsrat said:
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That hit very hard. Beautifully puts things into perspective.
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Think about the people who pledged in their retirement, hoping to be a space grandad/grandma.
 

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VR Golgot said:
PES Watch
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Great game.
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
VR Golgot said:
In my favourite bit of community trivia, the fan who confabulates Server Meshing progress is still called UNOBTAINIUM ;)
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Although, I recently heard that - for quite a few patches - we can bedlog with our ship somewhere in interplanetary space, and log back in the next day and wake up in our ship in that exact spot.
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On my! Truly never been done before!

Guy is on a full on copium trip.

Still, made me think more about server meshing in relation to SC. As you cross a server boundary, your ship and you and any other players are handed over to the other server, right? Now, what happens if you drop 1000 bottles of something on your ship and then cross a server boundary?

Someone should test this.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Workaround Watch:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ljuymz/lost_most_of_a_mole_worth_of_qant_running_out_of
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ljuymz/lost_most_of_a_mole_worth_of_qant_running_out_of/


Here’s a trick with QT: Turn off your weapons.

There is a bug currently where nav mode isn’t correctly disabling weapons fully. It leaves power in the weapons, so even though they are disabled they end up in a weird error state.

If you hit P until the weapons turn off (usually takes twice as the game both thinks your weapons have, and have not, got power at the same time), you’ll find you can QT again.

For anyone else who stumbles upon this: This bug is also why you’re suddenly dropping out of QT at server boundaries or struggling to spool out of the blue despite having done so before. Remember to turn those weapons back on when you get back to SCM!
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Yeah I’m sorry you had a rough session. Sometimes we just have bad luck. Though in my case I got lucky so far and disabling Vulkan was enough to get properly running again.
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Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh

CIG's take on 3 body problem theory :]

My two aUACcents: the physics engine might not be a total disaster, the resulting messes are maybe more due to the fact that:
  • Nothing is properly configured
  • Many counterproductively convoluted systems overcharging physics and/or aren't compatible with rigidbody focused assets hence unpredictable effects (take any game engine, go to physics manual and you'll see that you shouldn't move a rigidbody with anything else other than by applying forces and you must apply them in the physics process/thread of the engine exclusively)
  • CIG maybe rely on a non-deterministic* physics engine so what's been calculated by the client, another one and the server could and would not match. Though SC is listed in games using PhysX**

\* For example Havok (HL2, Zelda BOTW...) is non-deterministic, Jolt (Horizon: Fordidden West) and PhysX are deterministic
\** though the "Not because our physics code is terrible, in fact it's great" Beausejour's stance could hint they're on a custom engine now...
 
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Viajero

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Viajero
Skizomeuh said:
CIG's take on 3 body problem theory :]

My two aUACcents: the physics engine might not be a total disaster, the resulting messes are maybe more due to the fact that:
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Insert [Why not both?] meme.

I suspect that not only the physics engine is broken as frack, but also the original double precision floating point coordinates conversion was probably also very poorly implemented and which likely has tons of knock on effects in everything physics related.

Skizomeuh said:
\** though the "Not because our physics code is terrible, in fact it's great" Beausejour's stance could hint they're on a custom engine now...
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We can trust Benoît’s words on this as much as when he said « PES is behind us ».
 
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Oh this is cute. I thought it was just transported ships that were disappearing at server boundaries.

Turns out docked snubs like to undock there too ;)

Sometimes for some reason all Connie’s will lose the ship during quantum as if it performed a undock request because I hear the verbal audio each time it does.
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The problem is good luck going anywhere and keeping the thing. It likes to undock itself in quantum
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Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh
VR Golgot said:
In my favourite bit of community trivia, the fan who confabulates Server Meshing progress is still called UNOBTAINIUM ;)
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Hi 👋 I am unobtanium and have been following the development of Star Citizen since 2013.
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However, back in 2020, I had trouble finding any single source of information which would provide a good overview of what Dynamic Server Meshing is about, how CIG is realizing it, why the technologies were developed in the order in which they were, as well as the current development status.
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Half a decade old now. That is kind of unreal to me. Just like Static Server Meshing having released to the live servers half year ago.
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Overall information on Server Meshing et al have slowed down significantly. I am certain this year had the fewest updates of them all (which is good since the roadmap is therefore in a great state information-wise).
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Sweet summer child just hair's breadth away from realization. Ahhh.... The magic power of rose tinted eyeshields...
 
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