Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Aug 2016, official LY statement Dec 2016 declaring "We’ve been working with Amazon for more than a year" so there's obvious correlation between "tech" ambitions and LY "choice". No mentions of "CryEngine, Crytek, license or legal issues" BTW.
It's true that when I had read about the switch to LY, it was after I had learned about the lawsuit by CT. Perhaps it had influenced the way I read all the news about the switch.So when he goes on to cite networking & 'the cloud' as the primary reason for the switch, while dumping on the 'single server architecture' of the engine he initially chose for his 'MMO', it's pretty clearly a claim of 'this takes us closer to server meshing'.
The magical claims come from Chris and co. The current reality, of absolutely no server meshing, just makes those magical claims look daft
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Genuine question here Ant, how many times are you willing to be bitten in the backside, (lied to, misled, let down, take your pick), before you say 'enough'? Just seems to me we are already well beyond the point where any reasonable or rational person would have any faith left to give CIG/Mr Roberts.
It's like saying to your missus, 'it's ok honey, you've cheated on me for the 73rd time but you said you wouldn't again so we're cool'. Haven't we also breached the point where repeating the same thing and expecting different results, (quoting or backing CIG/Mr Roberts), is indeed mad as a box of frogs at this stage in proceedings?
Genuine question here Ant, how many times are you willing to be bitten in the backside, (lied to, misled, let down, take your pick), before you say 'enough'? Just seems to me we are already well beyond the point where any reasonable or rational person would have any faith left to give CIG/Mr Roberts.
It's like saying to your missus, 'it's ok honey, you've cheated on me for the 73rd time but you said you wouldn't again so we're cool'. Haven't we also breached the point where repeating the same thing and expecting different results, (quoting or backing CIG/Mr Roberts), is indeed mad as a box of frogs at this stage in proceedings?
Same here, don't worry. The key difference is I don't tend to pick what's true or not, what's said or not, what's to be taken into account or not, in any CIG statement. Given their track records I unilaterally choose to not believe any of their words. They have worn out my trust since long.
According to Spectrum...only the stupid ones
Only for me and at the moment :
- I find no other space game that give me more pleasure than the current SC alpha, even with its bugs
- I find no other space project to support with features that appeal me (one exception for EDO)
- CIG deliver slowly patch after patch. I find everytime something new that I like in each patch
Regarding your previous comment addressed at me, your choice, but it would help show that you don't blindly believe CIG will deliver on the things they talk about doing.
As for this post, I don't think there is anything wrong per se with hoping CIG will deliver and that you enjoy SC, but that wasn't what you were being asked about. You were being asked about whether you enjoy being lied to and misled and how much it will take before you say that's enough.
Its a different question.
Or, are you simply saying, you enjoy SC enough to the point that you don't care about the publisher lying to you? Because, one of the foundations of support for CIG from the early days was people saying (and they still say it) that they got fed up with lying publishers.
And yet, here we are, with CIG telling whoppers that would make an EA exec blush.
Or do you believe CIG have not lied or intentionally misled to backers?
I seem to recall us having this convo before... i wonder if you opinion has changed on the matter.
You can enjoy aspects of the game and recognise that Chris talks a lot of unreliable nonsense. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Just look at Mole & Vape
When CIG delayed SQ42 for at least a year (and cancelled their SQ42 video series), you didn't want to comment. We literally had to drag a small number of words from you.
As you have only 'pledged' the minimum amount in what 7 years? I find your support somewhat lacking.
Yes we have talked about it before. My opinion haven't changed.
Said it also before, all CR says is 'hypothetical' for me but I'm convinced he tries to deliver his vision. And as the glimpse of his vision in the alpha enjoy me since I test it, it's enough for me to give him credit for the future.You can enjoy aspects of the game and recognise that Chris talks a lot of unreliable nonsense. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Just look at Mole & Vape
There are other ways than money to support a project.
Like, let others do it? Project would be well dead by now if all backers put in the bare minimum.
Indeed. Glad to see you are not being suckered in to give them more money.
As Dooguk noted though, this project would have been dead years ago if people didn't pledge more.
Ok I'll bite. What are those other ways? And I bet Chris Roberts disagrees with you.
Spending time helping new players in the alpha, explaining on forums what the alpha can offer, giving technical advices on reddit for new comers...Ok I'll bite. What are those other ways? And I bet Chris Roberts disagrees with you.
Well the very short story would be: He seems to failing at that vision. (As a very short proof: No server meshing 8 years+ after KS, and an enormous queue of promised gameplay and tech that can't move without it).
It seems a bizarre grounds for giving him credit for the future. Especially given how little he cares when he repeatedly misses his unlikely goals...
But if you're happy dwelling in that endless Neverland...