Not like we've got much choice... it's not likely Ci¬G will suddenly go into overdrive and produce anything at allThe bar for what pleases citizens these days is so low not even a limbo dancer could get under it
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I for one am pleased NPCs can now, is in game, have been shown to, a dev says they got NPCs to pick up food and make sure they have cutlery in their hands before poking at said food, bringing food up to their mouths, eating said food, having said food diminish in mass as it is eaten by said NPCs, seen NPC belly get fuller (coming in tier 2 implementation later this year), and seen NPCs throw rubbish away and put cutlery back when done.
This was the priority for my enjoyment of the game, far more than having another star to travel to.
Something something fidelity something something immersion.
Not as big as the chasm between Sunk Cost Galaxy videos, amirite?
This was the priority for my enjoyment of the game, far more than having another star to travel to.
Something something fidelity something something immersion.
Not as big as the chasm between Sunk Cost Galaxy videos, amirite?
Standard game tech or not is irrelevant. Seeing it in game is relevant and exciting.
When FDEV talk about Ice planets it's exciting, I don't care if it's standard game tech or not.
At the accounting level, you give funds to CIG to develop the game and as reward you get a virtual item. You don't buy ships.
Lost my reply about proc gen too... I was saying that absolutely everything is hand made. There is no proc gen.
Again, this is false.
Ship
CIG disagrees, they want people to give them money to get ships - this is known in the real world as "buying":
Even Chris doesn't see it as pledging anymore; through ship selling are "paying", "spending", and "revenue":
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It’s no wonder that with that type of record engagement we had our most successful year of revenue ever
The spending on Star Citizen has indeed been phenomenal, and our revenues as shown on the tracker have set monthly records since January, with the exception of October and December, which has yet to close. 2019 was itself a record year at the time, with $48 million in sales revenue
Some might think that this is all old backers spending more, but that’s only the tip of the iceberg. Fueling this explosive growth is new players discovering Star Citizen for the first time. Revenues are a lagging indicator, and by themselves tell a very small part of the story.
Today, we stand at 1,177,919 Paying Accounts and counting. Even before COVID-19 hit the world, we were recording our best months ever in Q1 in New Accounts, New Paying Players, and revenues
who have in turn helped us make 2020 a record year in revenues as well
What we’re most proud of this year isn’t the revenue
Ouch!
Six months ago you estimated CIG could do:
LittleAnt said:
With the revelation of hand-drawn rivers, how does this impact your estimate?
It is relevant in the sense that daft backers are saying things like this:
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/l28nyq/isc_rivers_looking_awesome/gk5djvp/
And that habit of mistaking standard dev for exceptional dev is a perennial issue with CIG's form of 'open dev'. (And one CIG are more than happy to go along with, as they paint a picture of ongoing progress and exceptional ambition.)
The nature of the tech itself is also relevant. They're talking about bespoke placement of rivers over planets. With 100+ star systems as an end goal. It clearly doesn't work with their 'procedural painting' tools for authoring the planets, but has to be added in an extra pass. By hand. Across the entire planet.
That is a terrible system for the proposed scope. (And very much not the type of 'tool industrialisation' you've perceived in things like Building Blocks etc, which you think speak to powerful pipelines coming online for planetary generation)
If FDev had said the ice shaders were to be deployed by hand, I would have been the opposite of excited...
Standard game tech or not is irrelevant. Seeing it in game is relevant and exciting.
When FDEV talk about Ice planets it's exciting, I don't care if it's standard game tech or not.
This goes back to what i was saying earlier. Until i see it in game, its nothing to get hyped over. They showed off the revamped icy planets years ago and where are they? Apparently coming in Odyssey... but will they be as good as those images? Will they actually arrive? Who knows. Not going to get hyped about it until i see it in game.
Yes, you do...or more accurately in most cases, we buy promisary jpegs of said ships. The old Ci¬G spawned idiocy that they're not digital purchases may work in a 3rd world country somewhere, unfortunately, anywhere else that has consumer and tax law, it doesn't quite fit with the legality aspect of those digital sales so well...especially when we pay VAT individually on those 'not digitally purchased' items. The ideology also doesn't work when you take a look at the grey market...are those advertisements for the resale of ships and packages actually selling part of Star Citizen's development rather than digital items?
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Even if you are right, that doesn't change the fact that the fund tracker is not a ship sale tracker.
Sidenote : there is also other sources of income than ships (merchandising, sales of uec, etc).
You forgot to post the last disclaimer in the buying process on the website
With the TOS
Thank you Golgot for saving me the time of writing something. I think you have captured my thoughts to the letter. The bar has been set so slow that the average punter has lost sight of the overall goal. The goal is not to fill one system but over a 100 systems and I would argue that even for one system this isn't a good approach. This type of approach works for small maps, but isn't going to scale efficiently. Even with SC's "small" planets its a huge land mass to adequately cover by "placing" assets.
Proper PG isn't going to work for CIG, because they are focused on instant appeal of the visual. What we are seeing with FD is how much effort goes into producing the planet with some sort of landscape that scales over 400 billion systems. ie proper PG.
It's actually quite intriguing because keeping to a single system they are avoiding the question when a second system arrives as to why its only two systems when the building blocks should be in place to build many systems. How long will the average punter be happy with a single system and will the penny drop when the second system arrives?
I am fascinated by how little understanding there appears to be after 9 years!
And ? What is the digital content you buy when you pledge ?
The one obvious I see from a legal point is the future software SC, nothing more.
Congratulations, you've aptly demonstrated how much CIG contradict themselves while obfuscating information.
It's a pledge! It's a purchase! It's fundraising! It's revenue! It's a game! It's alpha! Road to release! Playable now!
You dont' know if it's good or not if you don't have reponses to this 4 questions :
How many planets will have rivers ?
How many rivers do you need on a planet ?
How much time it takes to create a full river ?
How many people will you assign to this task ?