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Mole HD

Mole HD
Frillop Freyraum said:
It has. Looks like a Panzerknacker mole :cool:
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I'm curious now...what avatar pic do you see...my wife's Mole tattoo.. or the StigBob inspired creation? I'm still seeing the StigBob one :unsure:

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Navigare Necesse Est

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kilvenny said:
Because the way FD have handled VR in EDO tells you that anything on foot is going to be pass through VR, so even when other stuff gets added to ED the only time VR will work properly is when seated in the cockpit at which point it will be a fraction of the game content. So if I cannot play the content in VR anyway then VR is no longer a differentiator.
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A fraction? I didnt realise EDO content was that huge.
 

Xink

Xink
Well, when there are long time players of SC in this very thread that say things like "I've stopped playing for now, too many 30k errors", it is hardly a shining endorsement for the state of the game, such as it is.

Personally, even if it had zero bugs, from what I've seen of others playing it in real time all I have to say is "yawn". Intentional time sinks under the guise of "fidelity" is not my thing. Barely have an hour to spend on games these days so SC taking up 30min to get off the surface of a planet before you can even do anything is not my idea of "fun". YMMV of course, have at it if that's your thing.

But don't come all "you don't even play the game" - we can all see it for exactly what it is on twitch and decide for ourselves if it looks like something we'd like to play before clicking the very large "playable now" buttons all over their site. Again, how strange no mention of alpha among those buttons. I think I've played every space game out there bar ED and SC simply because neither of them seem fun to me.

Of course casual observers will make fun of CIG spending time on trivialities like NPCs eating, canteen queues and p00p mechanics rather than core gameplay. Shocking, I know. Doubly shocking that streamers that make money off SC will only show the fun bits to get more views. Almost like they're doing it on purpose, you might say. Will say it again - don't base buying decisions on streamers with a vested interest in what they show.
 

Darkfyre99

Darkfyre99
Mole HD said:
A lot of them aren't ditching one for t'other though...which seems to be the point of contention for some reason. As for grind, it's everywhere in typical MMO games, no matter what they are. SC has it too but the grind is for aUEC...which I've noted a few EDO refugees mention as 'making more sense'. I can't see it to be fair but I've made a mental note of it being mentioned a few times. To me, grind is grind...whether it's for aUEC or mats.
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For me, it’s a verisimilitude thing. Effort (which is what a lot of people call grind these days) is one thing. But the mental dissonance between being a space billionaire on the one hand, and having to act like a struggling scavenger and thief on the other, eventually gets tiring.
 

Dooguk

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kilvenny said:
I strongly doubt it, the time to have done it was for EDO, now they have a huge bunch of technical debt, so they are in the same situation as SC. I can understand why they didn't do VR on foot as they focused on the FPS side and very few FPS do VR. However for an explorer on foot is not just combat, in a long trip into the black I might want to get out and view hundreds of planets on foot in VR without a sight of combat. We have seen a churn of designers and key people over the years and I think the vision for ED has moved with it and VR has been a casualty of that. Shame, hopefully someone picks up the baton of space VR in a reasonably sized pseudo realistic space setting.
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I've said all along that there is no VR in Odyssey because Frontier knew they couldn't hit the required framerate. SC is in the same boat, plus the added complication of forced character animations, which is a big no-no for VR.
 

LittleAnt

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Xink said:
Personally, even if it had zero bugs, from what I've seen of others playing it in real time all I have to say is "yawn". Intentional time sinks under the guise of "fidelity" is not my thing. Barely have an hour to spend on games these days so SC taking up 30min to get off the surface of a planet before you can even do anything is not my idea of "fun". YMMV of course, have at it if that's your thing.
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Personally, I wish you would stop spreading false informations. You need less than 2 minutes to get off the surface of a planet. I do a "eliminate nest" mission in 15 minutes : waking up in a bed in a space station, claiming my ship, QT to planet and land, clear 8 to 12 NPC in a cave, come back to the ship and fly to space ready for another mission...
 

VR Mr Teatime

VR Mr Teatime
Dooguk said:
I've said all along that there is no VR in Odyssey because Frontier knew they couldn't hit the required framerate. SC is in the same boat, plus the added complication of forced character animations, which is a big no-no for VR.
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There is VR in Odyssey, but not an optimal experience when compared to Horizons is more accurate I feel.
That said, once I got over the jarring effect of the full VR to "grey burqah on foot mode", I've been very much enjoying Odyssey in VR and performance has improved for me greatly after update 6 (4790K+1080ti).
As a VR only player (I play ED, DCS and my own WIP title) I see no appeal in a switch to SC. ED may have a hole in their boat, but SC is very much fertilising the abyssal plain in this respect.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Mole HD said:
No half sensible adult needs constant and incessant lecturing from me or anyone else on the intimacies of Ci¬G's business practises, that information is out there and readily available through a simple Google search, it has been for many years...it's up to them to read or ignore it. I've found that most have, one way or the other, but decided that besides not being overly important to them on a personal level, they're also mature enough to make their own decisions, almost entirely despite the "Ci¬G is everything bad/good in the world." serial whiners.
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Moley, I know this stuff winds you up because:

A) You don’t want to be reminded daily that the game you enjoy keeps its wheels turning through a very blatant grift (big cash for hopes & jpegs).

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B) You don’t want to be lumped in with the mooks who fall for the dream sales pitches, spend more than they should, and feel like an idiot.

But honestly mate: Tough crap. That is the state of play, and that mook who has almost instantly regretted his $500 splurge is just an ongoing example of it. That’s the brass tacks.

The information that might forewarn noobs isn’t 'readily available' in a standard Google search, because it’s swamped by a sea of CIG marketing, promising roadmaps, & shiny assets.

That’s why some people collate examples of the other side of the story. And will continue to do so. Because it’s still a story worth telling ¯\(ツ)/¯
 

Xink

Xink
LittleAnt said:
Personally, I wish you would stop spreading false informations. You need less than 2 minutes to get off the surface of a planet. I do a "eliminate nest" mission in 15 minutes : waking up in a bed in a space station, claiming my ship, QT to planet and land, clear 8 to 12 NPC in a cave, come back to the ship and fly to space ready for another mission...
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Manure. Not like I haven't literally seen people take 15 min+ every time. Case in point:

Source: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1108765790?t=1h32m42s


Got out of bed 1h32m. Was in space 1h50m.

Stop spreading misinformation. Less than 2min my shiny metal cowbonga.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Xink said:
Barely have an hour to spend on games these days so SC taking up 30min to get off the surface of a planet before you can even do anything is not my idea of "fun".
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LittleAnt said:
Personally, I wish you would stop spreading false informations. You need less than 2 minutes to get off the surface of a planet.
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Depends on the planet right…

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/olld74
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/olld74/leaving_atmosphere_at_orison/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body
 

LittleAnt

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VR Golgot said:
Depends on the planet right…
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Xink said every take off take forever. It's simply not true. If you want to play quick, you can play quick. Saying you need 30 minutes to leave every planet is a lie. You can spend your entire life without visiting a city except for buying a new ship. And when you take of from land (not city) to space, for every planet (except Orison), you need less than 2 minutes. He would know it if he simply play the alpha.
You even don't have to land on planet if you want, just wake in a ship bed and do your stuff directly.
 
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Intrepid3D

Intrepid3D
Xink said:
Well, when there are long time players of SC in this very thread that say things like "I've stopped playing for now, too many 30k errors", it is hardly a shining endorsement for the state of the game, such as it is.

Personally, even if it had zero bugs, from what I've seen of others playing it in real time all I have to say is "yawn". Intentional time sinks under the guise of "fidelity" is not my thing. Barely have an hour to spend on games these days so SC taking up 30min to get off the surface of a planet before you can even do anything is not my idea of "fun". YMMV of course, have at it if that's your thing.

But don't come all "you don't even play the game" - we can all see it for exactly what it is on twitch and decide for ourselves if it looks like something we'd like to play before clicking the very large "playable now" buttons all over their site. Again, how strange no mention of alpha among those buttons. I think I've played every space game out there bar ED and SC simply because neither of them seem fun to me.

Of course casual observers will make fun of CIG spending time on trivialities like NPCs eating, canteen queues and p00p mechanics rather than core gameplay. Shocking, I know. Doubly shocking that streamers that make money off SC will only show the fun bits to get more views. Almost like they're doing it on purpose, you might say. Will say it again - don't base buying decisions on streamers with a vested interest in what they show.
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Do you think its at all possible to be frustrated by a games problems, to come to places like this and vent to people who understand your frustrations.
While at the same time still like and enjoy the game?
 
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