Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Now now, Mole... let's be fair. He might not be a troll... he might be another astro-turfer for CIG.
Nah - they've been hate-posting about ED for a while before moving on to SC, I think they're genuine fresh meat for SC.
Yet to hear their plans for how they plan to back this year, so probably not a serious supporter of the 'verse, they still seem to be posting like a possessive ex-boyfriend about how ED let them down, rather than about their new girl, the lovely Roberts
I notice you seem to be ignoring those of us who already have a few hours playing SC...as well as 'having a system' to play it on for the last 6 or 7 years... very strange. How much are you in for, commando?
They didn't ignore me, but they did make the wrong assumptionsI notice you seem to be ignoring those of us who already have a few hours playing SC...as well as 'having a system' to play it on for the last 6 or 7 years... very strange. How much are you in for, commando?
In other news... I was chatting with my Norsenet ISP on Discord last night and he turned my net speed limiter off for a bit so I could download and play some 'Ready or not' with him...seems he went off to bed and forgot to turn the limiter back on...I'd better go download something else before he wakes up and turns it back on
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Oh dear lordy.
I thought the reason the Star Citizen fans got a little antzy at this time of the year was that it is such an obvious milestone to pass
We are now in the space year 2022, and Star Citizen has not been released yet
Happy New Year!.. to everyone, regardless of what pixels you like pushing around on yer screens
Nah - they've been hate-posting about ED for a while before moving on to SC, I think they're genuine fresh meat for SC.
Yet to hear their plans for how they plan to back this year, so probably not a serious supporter of the 'verse, they still seem to be posting like a possessive ex-boyfriend about how ED let them down, rather than about their new girl, the lovely Roberts
LoL - back the game?
I didn't even pay for elite, and sure it's given me a few hours of fun. There were some moments of tension.
I play games for fun. And for the challenge.
Elite has the big numbers of systems, and that's about all it's got going for it. The butt hurt over SC is so funny though.
It's like the jilted ex. Have yet to see anyone get upset by the statement that Overwatch is a better game then elite, with better fps, more variety (not to mention, more game / team combinations than elite has systems)
It's because sc is a prettier blonde than elite and actually goes to the gym once in a while.
I might still load up elite... Hell I had it running on New year's, in open at Sol... But was the only one there on Xbox..same with Christmas too.
Keeping the ex girlfriend analogy going, elite is the one that let herself go and can only cook 1 meal
You say SC is so good - surely you want it to be finished. SC players do this by pledging for ships - so which ones are you getting? They also back the game by subscribing and getting flairs / special armour etc - are you doing that?
Oh. I see.
Sooo...you tried SC during the free-fly I take it... and from what I can gather, you played arena commander ...or something... via Shadowplay from an Xbox or laptop without having actually backed the project in any way? I'm somewhat confused with your setup...not to mention why you're so butthurt over ED... but haven't yet had any gameplay time on SC to make a realistic comparison between them both...stranger and stranger
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I'm somewhat confused with your setup...not to mention why you're so butthurt over ED... but haven't yet had any gameplay time on SC to make a realistic comparison between them both...stranger and stranger
Well... in that case, I'll have to take his trading post semi-seriously...
Hmm... one solar system with a handful of places to buy and sell goods, where the inter-planetary flight model that doesn't allow hands on piloting...
versus tens of thousands of systems, all with their own unique system topology, with with the best orbital mechanics since Kerbal Space Program that can radically change your flight path over the course of hours, let alone days... with rather unique FTL interplanetary mechanics that encourages hands-on piloting...
I'll give Star Citizen a point for this one... which in then loses to its ships apparently being made of styrofoam...
Another point to Star Citizen
Do you have any evidence of this in action? This is the first I've heard of Star Citizen's ships altering it's center of gravity and flight characteristics. In fact, from what I've observed and heard from people who actually play Star Citizen, Elite changes its ships flight mechanics far more than SC.
But I could be wrong.
Again... do you have actual evidence of this? Again from what I've seen, there are no actual cargo handling mechanics in the game at this time, just nebulous plans to implement such in the future. I'll grant you that the box handling part of "box missions" shows there's potential there, potential gameplay means diddly-squat to actual gameplay. So your "actual cargo" is pretty much just a graphical place holder of the future game mechanics.
BTW, everything you described above has nothing to do with trading so far. Trading is the buying and selling of goods. What you've described so far is flight mechanics. Now, flying from point a to b is how you transport goods from one place to another, but transportation is not trading. You could engage in trading if you (hypothetically) hired an NPC to transport the your freight for you, or engaged in market speculation and manipulation. (see below)
There are, IIRC, at least 24 different types of stations, outposts, and planetary ports, all of which have multiple variants. And then you have Odyssey's new settlements, which vary by economy type and come in multiple sizes. And of course planetary ports and settlements will be located in varying terrains, gravity, and of course the sky they're under will change based on your location in the galaxy, the movement of stars, planets, and moons within the solar system, and even the rotation of the world they're on.
But again... none of this is actually trading.
Again, trading is the buying of selling of goods. Ideally, you want to buy when and/or where the price is low, and sell when and/or where the price is high. This is where Elite Dangerous beats SC into a fine meat paste. You see... in Elite Dangerous prices will fluctuate based on the activities of players. If players supply goods to a particular market, the selling price goes down. If players buy goods at a particular market, the buying price goes up. That's just economics 101.
The price also fluctuates based on what faction controls a particular market, and the state which it is in. And players can have nearly complete control of a faction's state... if they're willing to invest the time in doing so. So I could, for example, go to a market in an empty ship, fill it with goods sold at the market, and thanks to Odyssey and its foot-based missions and Apex taxi-service, run a series of missions that would move the faction controlling said market into a state in which the goods can now be sold back to said market at a profit.
Granted, this is the type of market manipulation is a huge waste of time. Why spend hours, or even days, manipulating faction states in this manner when you can simply transport that cargo in minutes to elsewhere? But it is at least possible to do in EDO.
But more importantly, if you keep your eyes open, you'll find factions that are just on the cusp of a state change, and all it takes is a little nudge to create a ephemeral yet extremely profitable trade route that will be know to you and you alone... at least until the data mining websites learn about it due to some rando who was just passing through.
And that is why I rate your claim that trading is better in SC than ED three and a half J. Jonah Jamisons:
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Sooo...you tried SC during the free-fly I take it... and from what I can gather, you played arena commander ...or something... via Shadowplay from an Xbox or laptop without having actually backed the project in any way? I'm somewhat confused with your setup...not to mention why you're so butthurt over ED... but haven't yet had any gameplay time on SC to make a realistic comparison between them both...stranger and stranger
Shadow tech turns any device (though not consoles) into a high end PC with a 1gb/s internet connection.
I did the free fly event, and ended up buying the game with an avenger titans for £50, as I get myself a game for Christmas as a present from the wife.
I was genuinely considering elite oddesy, but it just looked so boring. And I honestly think I've made the right call. Landing my avenger titan in a storm...and the best thing about SC, my favourite feature...ship lights that actually work!!!!!!!
I have become a full on wef Klaus shwab bozo tho, I own an Xbox SX..but, I play elite at work via x-cloud and sc via shadow tech... I own neither and am happy.
I could play elite on the sx but it feels like a waste. On the Xbox one I have hooked up to the 1080p dlp projector with Darbee vision I do still play a little Elite (but then again... I can play SC there too now)
Environmental effects and ship damage are not part of the trading mechanics.
If you're going to compare, compare like for like.
Ha ha, amazing.
Not to be disparaging ...since you've actually backed the project...but have you any idea how many times I've been out-fanboyed by new victim $50 backers fresh from a free-fly over the last year or so playing Star Citizen? Considering I've been a backer since the days when there was nothing but a few non flyable ships inside a hangar, been concierge level twice (I refunded my first account) it's getting to be a bit of a chore trying to summon the enthusiasm to join in with the happy-clappy stuff.
I like talking realistically about Star Citizen, that's why I'm here and not on Spectrum or the SC subreddit... I certainly enjoy playing it for the most part...since I'm in there every day just bimbling about with a few mates. There isn't really a competition between ED and SC at the end of the day, I kinda like both for completely different reasons, because it's really OK to like both for what they are...as well as understanding what they aren't.
To be honest with you, if you've picked up SC on the back of some butthurt over ED or EDO (like so many other new and shiny Star Citizen victims) and expecting greater things, you're in for a very rude awakening...not to mention a very long wait
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You kind of hit on the point while missing it. We are not here ripping on SC because of ED. ED is ED. SC is SC.
Some here enjoy playing the game (eg: Mole and a few others, although even they aren't swallowing the tripe you are selling). Some here dump on CIG due to their years of lies and mismanagement.
If you are thinking of buying into SC (if you haven't already), then i can only advise you to research the company and its history first.
Some memes have been thrown your way in the last few posts, those are taken from real quotes by the people behind the game. Its worth knowing what you are getting into before giving CR any money.
EDIT: ooops, looks like you already gave them money. Oh well, i guess you'll be coincierge within a few month now.
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