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Viajero
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It is quite obvious no? The same reason Chris Roberts or many other CIG reps misrepresented so many things over 10+ years: Money. Every hyped up bombastic statement like that one from Zyloh likely generated significant hype that then turned into people pledging more money.
Squadron did not release indeed as was announced multiple times for 2014, 2015, "Answer the Call" in 2016 and 2017, the beta in 2020 or as hyped up by Zyloh, but Chris Roberts and CIG have not offered refunds for all the money that may have been pledged on the back of those statements. And given their own funds tracker it was probably quite a bit.
I am building a new house. It is not quite fully done yet, but I have actually already lived in it I assure you. At least for the whole 3 minutes during which I stood at the yard where the foundations are being excavated.
Not a lie.
Here a couple more examples:
Do you also think Chris Roberts did not willingly misrepresent the state of the PU when he announced in Gamescom 2016 that all that was slated for 3.0 (including the full Stanton system) was going to be their big end of the year release? And everything else described up to 4.0 estimated over 2017? It is 2022 and Stanton is not even fully finished yet, never mind everything left up to 4.0 (repair, salvage, farming, rescue, exploration, jumping and new systems). Do you really believe Chris Roberts truly thought all that had a reasonable chance to be ready by then?
Do you also think that Sean Tracy did not willingly misrepresent the state of TOW when he announced in CitCon 2019 that TOW was likely to be with us early 2020?
We can also discuss about how CIG stated that Star Marine was weeks, not months away back in 2015, or how core gameplay content such as subsumption AI, quanta, salvage and many others have been constantly showed off at conventions, roadmaps and calendars only to get constantly pushed away for years.
CIG´s whole business model is essentially based on getting money through constant misrepresentations. Some people call that a scam, others simply fraud.
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Question: How does Star Citizen affect Elite Dangerous?
Last time i checked, nothing CIG does affects ED in the slightest.
Yes, ship interiors are nice, and i'm sure some people will celebrate if FD add them to ED in the coming years, but saying FD need to get creative... nothing creative about ship interiors.
Also, FD tried creative... with Powerplay. I'm not sure this is good advice
How does it effect fdev: well people playing SC are not playing Elite.
When I say Fdev need to be creative, I don't think that is ship interiors (ironically).
They need to do something that will leverage the scale of Elite, and make use of existing assets and engine capabilities.
And possibly leverage that star citizen falls over in many aspects of 'persistance'
NPC nav mesh is at "Phase 0" (not Tier 0 - Phase 0, which to my mind translates as "we haven't started work on it yet").
10 years in, 500 million dollars, early days.
Who says just because a person plays one game they can't play another?
May i refer you to the right honourable Scot yeti affectionately known as @Mole HD ?
LOLOLOL, "in the future of Star Citizen players will experience...". But I really like this thumping synth music they introduce every time something needs to be hyped. I unironically like it.
Imagine saying this and thinking it makes your argument. You don't gain trust by constantly letting people down.
The way whiteknights always want to push the blame onto their own, they are such a crock of
Its one reason i'd find it funny if the whole thing collapsed. Watching people like this blame themselves for it, rather than blaming CIG.
Meh, who am i kidding? They will blame the skeptics, goons, Derek Smart, the roadmap watchers.
Anyone but their lord and saviour.
SSOCS very much did its thing. New System locations, things like Xenothreat with hundreds of AIs working, and the performance increased aswell.A gentle reminder that SOCS was a complete washout, and is indeed a good example of oversold 'miracle tech' not fulfilling on its promises:
And a second gentle reminder that: Posters who misrepresent such things wildly, while gish galloping relentlessly, are not really worth interacting with
Pre 3.8 - Horribly choppy 38FPS while flying in space looking at giant textured ball.
3.13.1 - Same specs, flying above a city yields 40+ FPS. SSOCS very much made a huge difference. The System specs are identical apart from CPU and RAM, with the CPU being used in the 3.13.1 video only being slightly more powerful by a tiny margin. The 3.8 System even had 32 GB of RAM, which the 3.13.1 System did not.
No SSOCS - No Crusader, No MicroTech, No Lagrange Points, No Playable FPS, No Dynamic Events.
Exactly. He didn't lie.
Now Chris, that's a whole different story. His roadmap presentations are lies.
No. At it's core ToW isn't a huge modification. Then they ran into problems with the netcode, that's the main thing holding them back.
With the servers being the way they are, do you actually believe Subsumption would work very well?
Viajero
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Pretty much in the same way I did not lie either when I said:
When all I have really done is to stand 3 minutes on the ongoing excavation site for the foundations.
Much like my statement, Zyloh saying he had played through all missions was likely a willing and gross misrepresentation of the truth which induced backers to hype and to pay money for products not yet delivered even 6 years on. CIG has not offered refunds for the money they received on the back of those misrepresentations. As mentioned some people call that a scam. Others simply fraud.
Glad you see it that way. As has been shown it is not just Chris though. Zyloh, Ben Lesnick, Tony Zurovec or Sean Tracy among others CIG reps seem to have also willingly misrepresented the actual state of the project continuously for the past 10+ years. The motivations for all those misrepresentations are the same: Hype and money.
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Just skimmed the last 5 or so pages as I haven't looked in in quite a while and it's gold! Back to its best I'd say, endless back and forth over points that have been done to death many times over.
If we were flogging a dead horse here all we'd have left by now is a pile of bones and a bloody smear on the ground!
Has it really been 10 years? Here's to 10 more glorious ones. Don't ever change you guys, we know SC probably wont.
If we were flogging a dead horse here all we'd have left by now is a pile of bones and a bloody smear on the ground!
Has it really been 10 years? Here's to 10 more glorious ones. Don't ever change you guys, we know SC probably wont.
This whole thread is just dead horse beating! The horse has been composted and turned into feritlizer at this point. However, without it, there would be no SC Discussion thread!
This is not a nice way to talk about the the BDSG.
A special shout out to those who believe and defend CIG's lies.
Bonus track for every time CIG takes a dump on backers and backers suck it up asking for more
Bonus track for every time CIG takes a dump on backers and backers suck it up asking for more
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You gotta break from the cult man. Have you ever seen metal heads believe in the devil because that's what they do? By logic it turns out they're actually acknowledging the validity of the other one because its fiction made by fiction..
Hating star citizen means you take it seriously enough to be worth hating, or even thinking about.
Sorry i know the analogy is a bit 90's but im guessing we're oldish here.
By all evidence, star citizen is a very strange and weird occurrence. Very creepy stuff.
Everything in everyone's head is there rent free.
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