Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Six ship sale events already this year are having a clear effect: whale backers showing they're more than happy to keep spending, openly celebrate being farmed for $$$, fund CIG's Pay2Skip (Pay2Win) revenue model, through buying ships for the Early Access in-alpha game of Star Citizen while the vast majority of the funding goes towards Squadron 42 development.
The Calders will be pleased - more dividends for them!
Oh yep we've been discussing it
Although there are lots of fun backer quotes in the comments if you fancy:
I tried not to select posts from SC fans
Imagine showing this video to someone from 5 years ago. If anyone had told me back then that Elite: Dangerous would be the one with stale development and being a broken mess while Star Citizen is giving the example, I would've immediately burst laughing. Yet here we are.
Star Citizen blows my mind every time I play it. Looking forward to what they do next.
I started Star Citizen back when it was literally a lone station and 3 missions. Then to now is a HUGE difference. Having played Esince it's launch, it was sort of the root of my frustration with the game... Star Citizen was having new things I've never seen before, and the scale of things plus immersion is so satisfying. Sure it's not as vast as Elite but there is so much more detail that it feels huge and lived in, whereas elite was mostly just empty.
Something just occurred to me, Frontier cancelled Elite on consoles and as we know Star Citizen is PC only, so they basically cancelled platforms where they had no competition. If they stick to PC only they won't make much money from Elite, I think. I hope I'm wrong,but Frontier is really making a huge mistake,because I don't think they can top Star Citizen. I don't know,it's just a thought.
They lost out to Star Citizen (and No Man's Sky) years ago. Starfield is coming this year... will probably be a buggy mess on release (Bethesda) but a year from now it'll probably be better than E: D has ever been. Of course Frontier is making a mistake - that's what they do.
I'm still looking for my first river in elite
You have ED with an entire galaxy that looks the same almost everywhere you go, and then you have Star Citizen with just 1 solar system that gives you variety & detail that Frontier completely left out. The roadmap between Star citizen & ED is like night and day. The coverage of ED these last 3 years has been cringeworthy since the content that Frontier keeps putting out is mundane & repetitive. But here we are, reluctant to put out Star Citizen content even though what they’re doing far exceeds Frontier’s capabilities in making a solid space sim. If you want a game that focus’s on observing everything from the air then leave Star Citizen alone.
rivers and roads are needed and they said they would add them long ago. it makes no sense for planets to lack them. this isn't EA or Fdev cheaping out on what is basic for all planets. any game that lacks this can't be taken seriously in this decade
Should Have Never Given Me Internet which failed to deliver on their promises of ship interiors, Eva, boarding, hell multicrew. And then they cancelled it all after selling arx saying....it was still coming for a yearsalute console players
Yes, a buggy alpha with less and less bugs quarter after quarter
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/tq5g62/where_is_quantum_where_is_pyro_where_is_server/
Anyone have the heart to tell him that Quantum isn't actually involved in the 'Dynamic Missions'?
Guy presents how much he loves the game, but fails to tell everyone how much he spent. Also failed to profess his love for a particular member of CIG. That's not how you do it on /r/sc!
And of course, top comment....
More fun in a single crater in SC than in the whole of (insert other game here, ideally ED).
EDIT: PS: Actually, in theory, in the land of dreams, Quantum would be involved in dynamic missions. For example, you're walking down a corridor, and an NPC suddenly remembers they didn't flush their toilet, but they are on their way to an important meeting. They stop you and offer you 100 UEC to go to their cabin and flush their toilet!
Angry that the funding model works well and that the game appeals to more and more funders?Six ship sale events already this year are having a clear effect: whale backers showing they're more than happy to keep spending, openly celebrate being farmed for $$$, fund CIG's Pay2Skip (Pay2Win) revenue model, through buying ships for the Early Access in-alpha game of Star Citizen while the vast majority of the funding goes towards Squadron 42 development.
The Calders will be pleased - more dividends for them!
No collapse of funding due to the catastrophic state of the stagnant and unplayable alpha? What a surprise!
Yes, a buggy alpha with less and less bugs quarter after quarter
I guess you missed the post just above of the guy killed by the new inventory system then?
I'm sure that all these continued mentions and postings of "scam" by fans and critics in relation to Star Citizen is doing wonders for search engines' algorithms and results.A fun new scam theory
Why are you angry? Why are you surprised that there isn't a collapse in funding?
I will never understand celebrating the fact that someone's favourite game requires whale fracking of astounding intensity just to plod forward, slowly. I could understand something like "look what this small studio with a miniscule budget pulled off! I got hundreds of hours in and I am not done yet!".
But this celebration of waste is really mind boggling.
But this celebration of waste is really mind boggling.
Bigotry. It fuels destructive motives because living with double standards has a tendency to erode personal values and normalise aberrant views and behaviours. That's just a theory.
I don't know that he even really supports it. Seems to me that he is just stooping to any depth to get a rise out of people in this thread.
I think so. A couple is 2, several is more than 2. And my favoured words for many fall foul of the swearing filter
If you've ever been moderately proficient at table tennis, the VR games are surprisingly realistic. Broken knuckles are always a danger.Once you get past the lamp punching stage (and the leaning on imaginary pool tables stage…) it gets a bit safer
(Although I did chip my thumb bone with a Hollywood grenade toss last year
Alyx should give you all the AAA hijinks you need, but if you want recos for other games got a big list here (space games included
Just avoid Sataball…
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QitU8FG6Us&t=6m28s
By that measure it has game loops.
One kill by the inv system every 5 min ? Every 30 min ? One by hour ? One by day ? Only one time ? PTU or PU ?
You don't know and don't care, you only collect bugs and wonder why CIG hasn't collapsed yet...
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Let me take that and use it in exactly the same way against your own argument:
“The ‘fun’ hunt is mostly to reassure themselves and deny the fact that the alpha is not progressing well towards a real game.
It's the same logic as putting aside the bugs/brokenness aspect of a game, or saying over and over that there is gameplay or content (even though there is very little and it is seriously broken) = to avoid facing the truth about the real state of the alpha.
Have you noticed that the tech demo argument is still very common here?”
Apologies for the obvious “No, U!”, but notice how irrelevant and meh is your argument?
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Nah, Ant gets too triggered by simple statements like 'alpha is alpha'. He's a real believer
One of the big problems with "subjective" fun is that it is, indeed, purely subjective. Games should be aiming to be fun for a large proportion of potential players, in some games that actually means having different types of game loops for different players. For instance a lot of people bash ED's exploration, they don't like it, but that's ok because it's a part of the game that appeals to a certain type of player. Other players enjoy the PvP side, which I have never done, but that's ok, I am glad they are enjoying it. Some players get super involved in the alien side of the game, to much sometimes judging by some posts I have seen, and a lot of players are getting quite into the FPS part.
Games need different types of content to appeal to different types of players if they want to broaden the appeal of the game and increase the player base, so yes enjoy the parts of the game you like but in a game like SC they need to add a lot more types of content to appeal to other players, for instance if the exploration side was really good I would consider actually trying out my initial pledge...well if I could remember the password, but I certainly wouldn't do that when there's a chance at any moment I might end up losing everything I have done to some silly bug.
That to me is one of the key things they should be addressing, the bugs, just like ED should address bugs, no-one likes bugs, specially ones that kill you and reset your character back to hospital in the home base in the way SC does.
Games need different types of content to appeal to different types of players if they want to broaden the appeal of the game and increase the player base, so yes enjoy the parts of the game you like but in a game like SC they need to add a lot more types of content to appeal to other players, for instance if the exploration side was really good I would consider actually trying out my initial pledge...well if I could remember the password, but I certainly wouldn't do that when there's a chance at any moment I might end up losing everything I have done to some silly bug.
That to me is one of the key things they should be addressing, the bugs, just like ED should address bugs, no-one likes bugs, specially ones that kill you and reset your character back to hospital in the home base in the way SC does.