Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Intrepid3D

Intrepid3D
Mole HD said:
I was almost tempted to jump to an AMD GPU when I upgraded...decided to stick with what I know in the end... for no other reason than like them or loathe them, the Nvidia stuff does exactly what it says on the box 🤷‍♂️
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No one can blame you for that, i'm the same, had Nvidia for many years.

GTX 970
GTX 1070
RTX 2070S

I know what i'm getting, my next GPU is likely to be another Nvidia, but, i am open to AMD GPU's, i'm not counting them out, i see no reason to do that, while its not the same thing on the CPU side AMD have been doing a lot better than Intel over the last few years, not just on the consumer side, on the client side things are even worse for Intel, who still haven't got anything to match AMD's now 2 year old 64 core server chips, which are about to replaced with a new and better core, 128 of them, AMD are so far ahead its not even funny, its sad.

On the GPU side Nvidia have been the market leaders for a lot of years but then so have Intel on the CPU side and now look.... AMD's next round of GPU's are rumoured to be good, really really good.

So it would be daft to say no at this point, i had been with Intel for a lot of years, there days i'm just waiting to see what AMD do next... you know?
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Intrepid3D said:
No one can blame you for that, i'm the same, had Nvidia for many years.

GTX 970
GTX 1070
RTX 2070S

I know what i'm getting, my next GPU is likely to be another Nvidia, but, i am open to AMD GPU's, i'm not counting them out, i see no reason to do that, while its not the same thing on the CPU side AMD have been doing a lot better than Intel over the last few years, not just on the consumer side, on the client side things are even worse for Intel, who still haven't got anything to match AMD's now 2 year old 64 core server chips, which are about to replaced with a new and better core, 128 of them, AMD are so far ahead its not even funny, its sad.

On the GPU side Nvidia have been the market leaders for a lot of years but then so have Intel on the CPU side and now look.... AMD's next round of GPU's are rumoured to be good, really really good.

So it would be daft to say no at this point, i had been with Intel for a lot of years, there days i'm just waiting to see what AMD do next... you know?
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For a long time i've been against AMD cards, probably due to my Linux leanings, where i could always get an nvidia binary but not an ATI (AMD) binary. I don't know if that has changed, and i only have 1 linux install at the moment on and old laptop, but it put me off them for a good while.
 

sovapid

sovapid
Agony_Aunt said:
Umm... so, i'm confused. Is it a good card or a bad card?

Because you seemed to be saying SC can be played on a pretty poor card.
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It is a fine card, but no one is "humble bragging" (how this all started) about having one.

As soon as the 4000 series comes out, I wont be able to humble brag about my 3090 (this is an actual humble brag).
 

Intrepid3D

Intrepid3D
Agony_Aunt said:
For a long time i've been against AMD cards, probably due to my Linux leanings, where i could always get an nvidia binary but not an ATI (AMD) binary. I don't know if that has changed, and i only have 1 linux install at the moment on and old laptop, but it put me off them for a good while.
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The Steam Deck runs a custom AMD chip, the Steam Deck is Linux, AMD Linux performance has been sub par over the last few years but working with Valve they have realised they need to do something about that, and they are, i don't have any links to hand off the top of my head, i'm not a Linux guy, but from background noise it seems to me there have been significant improvements both to the Linux kernel and AMD drivers RE: Linux quite recently.
 

DrinkyBird

DrinkyBird
Agony_Aunt said:
For a long time i've been against AMD cards, probably due to my Linux leanings, where i could always get an nvidia binary but not an ATI (AMD) binary. I don't know if that has changed, and i only have 1 linux install at the moment on and old laptop, but it put me off them for a good while.
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AMD have been really, really good on the Linux side for many years now; their drivers are open-source and work really well - so they're always available and functional as part of your distro's packages, and don't break whenever your kernel or Xorg version updates like Nvidia's have a habit of doing.
Back in like 2014 though, the situation was pretty dire: AMD had crappy propreitary drivers and crappy open-source drivers.But things have changed a lot since then, and for the better.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
sovapid said:
It is a fine card, but no one is "humble bragging" (how this all started) about having one.

As soon as the 4000 series comes out, I wont be able to humble brag about my 3090 (this is an actual humble brag).
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Just to remind you where this conversation started:

Its an upper mid range card from the previous generation, its pretty humble.
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Intrepid3D said:
The Steam Deck runs a custom AMD chip, the Steam Deck is Linux, AMD Linux performance has been sub par over the last few years but working with Valve they have realised they need to do something about that, and they are, i don't have any links to hand off the top of my head, i'm not a Linux guy, but from background noise it seems to me there have been significant improvements both to the Linux kernel and AMD drivers RE: Linux quite recently.
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Ok, cool, is that available to regular consumers?

Also, SC on Linux when?
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
DrinkyBird said:
AMD have been really, really good on the Linux side for many years now; their drivers are open-source and work really well - so they're always available and functional as part of your distro's packages, and don't break whenever your kernel or Xorg version updates like Nvidia's have a habit of doing.
Back in like 2014 though, the situation was pretty dire: AMD had crappy propreitary drivers and crappy open-source drivers.But things have changed a lot since then, and for the better.
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Hells bells, that's a hell of a 180 since i last tried an AMD card.
 

Intrepid3D

Intrepid3D
DrinkyBird said:
AMD have been really, really good on the Linux side for many years now; their drivers are open-source and work really well - so they're always available and functional as part of your distro's packages, and don't break whenever your kernel or Xorg version updates like Nvidia's have a habit of doing.
Back in like 2014 though, the situation was pretty dire: AMD had crappy propreitary drivers and crappy open-source drivers.But things have changed a lot since then, and for the better.
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Google "Linus Torvalds To Nvidia"

Agony_Aunt said:
Ok, cool, is that available to regular consumers.

Also, SC on Linux when?
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Now, my mate runs Linux, nothing but, he hates Windows.... He plays SC with me on his Linux system, uses some sort of conversion API to run it, which sounds worse than it is.
 

PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
Mole HD said:
Just been banned from the watercooling uk forum after a genuine question from me turned into a proper flame war (banned for persistent heckling and abuse)...and here was me thinking anally retentive patronising fan boys only stuck to sites relating to Star Citizen :rolleyes:
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Tell the truth now, did you post up images of zombie cows.....?
 

TiberiusDuval

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Agony_Aunt said:
For a long time i've been against AMD cards, probably due to my Linux leanings, where i could always get an nvidia binary but not an ATI (AMD) binary. I don't know if that has changed, and i only have 1 linux install at the moment on and old laptop, but it put me off them for a good while.
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Nowadays AMD cards work on Linux just fine. AMD has fine manufacturer supported open source driver. Maybe even better than Nvidia closed source, that can cause some issues. Other unix-likes like BSD's are different story. For them it is Nvidia or Intel.
 
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