Star Citizen Thread v6
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Which one, state of SC or refund story?I am about as bored of this story as I am with 2.6 now...
BOOM!
.............and yeah, I am bored too. It is not even fun to make fun out of SC anymore.
After ED 2.4 reveal I just see this...how it is. There are people who can, and people who can't.
ED is made by people who can.
A "pledge" is plegde only until is it paid. Then it's not a pledge anymore and there are clear obligations, which come with that debt. FTC already clarified that.
Just the usual: A alleged $45000 refund, CIG denying it and clickbait media not verifying any stories they run.is there a TL
'Sup dudes. I'm finally back.
Apart from the obvious release of the greatest game in history, is there a TL
No progress
Simultaneous scope increase/announcement of an MVP
Citizens are angry and hostile
CIG are comically incompetent
of uncertain origin everywhere
Derek smart was right and blogged about it
Sane people are pointing and laughing
Well, it would be I suppose, but my point was really that I don't need proof, as I can work out from what I can reasonably infer about funding and state of development that anyone more than about $100 invested must be thinking seriously about whether they should ask for their money back.
It may be a trickle, it may be a larger flow, but logically it must be happening. And more importantly, the money-tree is not delivering new pledges fast enough to pay 400 developers and other members of staff.
It is always some drama that is surrounding this"game"almost from the very beginning,as I said before it´s literally feels more that we witnessing some circus show instead of the game development.....I mean c´mon just look at it...there is an Elephant in the room,clowns,magic Germans,dancing monkeys&flying donkeys.......everything and anything except for the real game......honestly I am not complaining anymore because this SPECTACULAR CIRCUS is worth every penny..........
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dayrth
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Sounds about right. I figured there'd been stuff-all progress.
*dusts off popcorn machine*
It's certainly worth every penny of the £0.00 that I put in
Well I payed for my ticket but honestly I almost envy those rich people who payed for exclusive tickets that included chance to Hang for a day with STAR-CLOWN and key peeps on the team of "dancing-monkeys"........
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Viajero
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What do you mean by "until it is paid"? As far as I understand, before it is paid there is... well, nothing.
Can you please link to those obligations the FTC clarified?
Either way I suspect that actual loan/debt obligations and consequences are much more straight forward to execute and administer (also debtors are typically first in line in bankruptcy proceedings) than "pledge" related ones, where the water is a bit more muddy on definitions.
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A pledge is something you do on crowdfunding platforms like Kickstarter during a compaign to reach a certain funding goal. Once the funding goal is reached, you pay the amount you pledged. If the goal is missed, you don't. After payment it's not a pledge anymore, it's a paid order.
https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2015/06/69362-federal-trade-commission-on-crowdfunding-scams/
In the context of this thread there have been no pledges since five years. CIG doesn't let anyone pledge, they collect any money immediately, which increases CIG's debt. And it is pretty easy to get the pre-paid money back.
Better than any AAA game ever made. [haha]
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Refund news — fake or otherwise — is about as much progress as you can expect from this project. Welcome to the party.
Welcome to the confused usage of the word in crowdfunding circles.
There is indeed a transaction called a pledge, which is just a way to secure a loan — it's what you do when you go to the pawn shop. The word has also been used as a synonym for “promise” in crowdfunding, where it's (much more loosely) take to mean that if the project receives the funds, they're reasonably obligated to deliver what they've promised. For Kickstarter, in particular, some rewards are outright obligations irrespective of how well the main project goes. So even then, and even with the almost inverted meaning of the word, there's still a debt and liability that needs to be paid off.
There were a couple of cases a year back or so where the project had just taken the money and spent it on unrelated nonsense. FTC clarified that the money collected must exclusively go towards the completion of the project, or it was unjust enrichment or even outright fraud depending on how earnestly any of that cash was spent on project-related matters.
Oops......
Did CIG proved this to be fake 2???
Did CIG proved this to be fake 2???
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I must admit I keep browsing this thread once a day. It's like looking at a car crash, you just can't help it.
'CIG can't keep making it worse? Can they they?'
Yes. Yes they can
'CIG can't keep making it worse? Can they they?'
Yes. Yes they can
The play-time is longer, that's for sure.
Imagine if Horizon Zero Dawn had a play-time of 40,000 hours. We'd do things in our underpants.
Interesting how right we were about this ballooning out of proportion and people start digging. The Refunder had its laugh if it was fake he would have no reason to go further.
Now he shows up somewhere else and claiming to have evicdence. Eitherway this will probably be talked about alot in the coming days on both sides, with its own dramas accusations ect and CIG in the middle of it. As i said before CIG is pretty good in making matters worse for them...so this and the witchhunt of the SC Community will be a sight to behold.
Now he shows up somewhere else and claiming to have evicdence. Eitherway this will probably be talked about alot in the coming days on both sides, with its own dramas accusations ect and CIG in the middle of it. As i said before CIG is pretty good in making matters worse for them...so this and the witchhunt of the SC Community will be a sight to behold.
I must admit I keep browsing this thread once a day. It's like looking at a car crash, you just can't help it.
'CIG can't keep making it worse? Can they they?'
Yes. Yes they can
I gotta say, it's quite fun taking a 6-month break from this thread and finding out that nothing has changed.
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