-"A couple of pics from our gaming last night. At one point (IIRC) there were 11 of us on this Starfarer. "
-"I think we had 18 people in that instance. It was pretty cool. Can't wait to get the whole of Imperium together in SPACE!"
-"Yup.. over an hour of play, and just a few client crashes. Stability is a lot better."
-"We had a blast on that Starfarer, we held our own for a bit against 2 vanguards and a connie before they took us out! Juntau took us to grim hex to start a fight it was really awesome for the first time rolling with the org!"
11 people in this starfarer, 18 people in the instance at one point, an hour of gameplay with only a few crashes and good stability and an incredible space battle in big ships......
....only apart from 3 screenshots there is no evidence for all of this. The screenshot you claim to hold 9 people shows at best 8, the second picture "might" have 9 but the right pilot seat is obstructed so I can only count 8 and "assume" the player from the last screenshots is till in place. So we are at 8 players. You know this all strikes me as suspicious because you have an org, assumingly players like us who try to prove to the rest of the world how awesome their chosen game is. They provide high quality pictures of limited content and fill up the description with all kinds of stuff yet not ONE of them thought about providing pictures of all the really cool stuff or stream this event. I can only assume its because the stream would show single digit frames, 8 players max at any given time and constant crashing. All things that can be observed in streams and live gameplay videos throughout the internet. Hey, dont bark up my tree. I dont try to "prove" this stuff, I m just the guy questioning it all because there is no clear evidence. If you want to believe whatever these guys say because they posted 3 nice looking pictures then do it. Just dont be shocked when I require more then this in order to convince me SC is a winners game.
Question to the players here. Can 1 player spawn more then 1 ship in the PU? Does a player contact on the UI has a name if its a player or does that fade out with range? Any idea why the supposed 15 "ships" are shown in this manner all by themselves kilometers apart represented with just a blip and not shown huddled together?
The video featuring this picture is at best a montage and could ve been tampered. God knows I come across SC videos which try to photoshop or sell stuff all the time proving a deliberate attempt of the author to shroud real conditions. You are clearly amazed and excited about the stuff you think is real JohnMice but your evidence does not provide any to the situation at hand. At best it rises more questions. Even now with all the discussions and arguments about stability and network code preventing lots of people in the same instance there is no evidence supporting the pro-SC side without doubt. There are clearly people around who are very intend to proof their point of view but the best they can come up with is debatable screenshots and disputable snippets of gameplay.
I m sure people will throw their hands in the air now and say "this guys simply does NOT want to see it" but even if thats true.......real evidence would provide proof that I simply cannot deny it all without saying "okay, but this is still a scam because I think so". This is not the case. The evidence in question is simply lacking thats all. And with all the intentional lying by CiG and fans on youtube I think I am entitled to distrust and skepticism. Because the current results or lack thereof point to drastic shortcominhs when it comes to CiGs claims so questions are fair I think.
And I thought we established already that ATV are not evidence. So if you point to an ATV in order to provide such or support a claim for facts you could as well just dont do it or at least admit its something you "hope" will eventually arrive but is no clear evidence of whats coming. Talk is cheap and we have no reason to believe that any of what they show will ever come to our harddrives. I remember the 2016 presentations being awesome and breathtaking (and scripted) as well but we already know none of it will ever come to SC so why is the rest of the stuff ATVs show under much more controlled conditions any better?