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I'm not sure, but I think this is probably the least relevant logical hole in the theory of astrology... 😏
Sure, but you can play some mind game to try to build a plausible (but extremally stretched and assumption based) model
that would explain how (momentary) star positioning could impact our personality perks.

Just think of our early mind development as partially proc gen and seed for this generation would be stars coordinates/distances processed by whatever math that makes it a closed loop in the 12 month cycle of Earth orbiting the Sun.

Still, I see no way for birth date to have ANY meaning in such model, because brain is developing gradually over several months of pregnancy and birth date is actually
semi-random, environment impacts the actual moment of birth a lot.

EDIT: oh, of course one of assumption is that our reality is just a calculated simulation.
 
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One good thing was that needle technology has moved on a lot- being really phobic I was pleased at how unstabby it felt going in.
Now it's all down to the skill of the nurse to make it feel stabby.
For my second jab, even though one does not normally feel the needle, the nurse tried his best to make it feel like he was attacking me viciously.
And then he had the guts to say "Done!".
I was watching you! Your eyes had an evil spark in them as you were propelling your arm towards my shoulder, for goodness sake! :LOL:
 
Now it's all down to the skill of the nurse to make it feel stabby.
For my second jab, even though one does not normally feel the needle, the nurse tried his best to make it feel like he was attacking me viciously.
And then he had the guts to say "Done!".
I was watching you! Your eyes had an evil spark in them as you were propelling your arm towards my shoulder, for goodness sake! :LOL:
I've had IM injections that really stabbed and I wished I had this needle :D

But skill does count. Ages ago I had to have a bone marrow biopsy, and had some high level trainee technicans do it.

The first mistake was the anesthetic patch not working, and then their technique of screwing in the needle into my sternum as I screamed with pain. I'd never felt cold, unbearable agony like it, and that was before they started sucking out my bone marrow which was a cold unpleasant pain to boot.

Just thinking about it makes me want a slug of rum.
 
Sure, but you can play some mind game to try to build a plausible (but extremally stretched and assumption based) model
that would explain how (momentary) star positioning could impact our personality perks.

Just think of our early mind development as partially proc gen and seed for this generation would be stars coordinates/distances processed by whatever math that makes it a closed loop in the 12 month cycle of Earth orbiting the Sun.

Still, I see no way for birth date to have ANY meaning in such model, because brain is developing gradually over several months of pregnancy and birth date is actually
semi-random, environment impacts the actual moment of birth a lot.

EDIT: oh, of course one of assumption is that our reality is just a calculated simulation.
The only rational reason for using it as a measure of character is to me, because people are told from early youth on, what birthsign they are and how they "have to" be because of that. If it is told them for long enough, they will eventually become like it - nearly like in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Astrology itself is nonsense, but to use it, because a lot of people believe to be of that supposed type, it can nevertheless be useful - because it might tell you something about the general character of someone.
 
Sure, but you can play some mind game to try to build a plausible (but extremally stretched and assumption based) model
that would explain how (momentary) star positioning could impact our personality perks.

Just think of our early mind development as partially proc gen and seed for this generation would be stars coordinates/distances processed by whatever math that makes it a closed loop in the 12 month cycle of Earth orbiting the Sun.

Still, I see no way for birth date to have ANY meaning in such model, because brain is developing gradually over several months of pregnancy and birth date is actually
semi-random, environment impacts the actual moment of birth a lot.

EDIT: oh, of course one of assumption is that our reality is just a calculated simulation.
Disagree slightly on this - more recent neurodevelopment research is suggestive that the first 6 months of life have quite an effect on our "programming" for life, and I do wonder if the effects of early life experiences for babies born in winter for example differ significantly from the experiences of those born in high summer. Equally, parental behaviour/mood/demeanour is likely to be significantly different in, say, late January than it is in July which theoretically could have an effect on early neural development.

If you take a tendency like this, and then apply the usual human trait of massively over-complicating things and steeping them in ritual and narrative combined with the usual confirmation bias/attribution bias and the tendency of charlatans to rely on Barnam statements and you can see why astrology took root... that and the seemingly universal need of humanity to think that we can influence an impartial universe...
 
Anyway, have a cat... (he's a Gemini btw...)
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The only rational reason for using it as a measure of character is to me, because people are told from early youth on, what birthsign they are and how they "have to" be because of that. If it is told them for long enough, they will eventually become like it - nearly like in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Astrology itself is nonsense, but to use it, because a lot of people believe to be of that supposed type, it can nevertheless be useful - because it might tell you something about the general character of someone.
Of course, it wasn't meant to be rational.
But "irrational" and assumption based model can be more or less plausible.
Clinging to birth date makes astrology irrational AND implausible IMO.
 
Disagree slightly on this - more recent neurodevelopment research is suggestive that the first 6 months of life have quite an effect on our "programming" for life, and I do wonder if the effects of early life experiences for babies born in winter for example differ significantly from the experiences of those born in high summer. Equally, parental behaviour/mood/demeanour is likely to be significantly different in, say, late January than it is in July which theoretically could have an effect on early neural development.

If you take a tendency like this, and then apply the usual human trait of massively over-complicating things and steeping them in ritual and narrative combined with the usual confirmation bias/attribution bias and the tendency of charlatans to rely on Barnam statements and you can see why astrology took root... that and the seemingly universal need of humanity to think that we can influence an impartial universe...
Well, you have described how it actually is/could be,
what is not really relevant to me pointing that even following their own deluded assumption (stars relative position make our character)
astrology in their current approach/model doesn't make any sense .
 
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I also envy people who have COVID vaccinations and not feel like crap the next day. I'm in a right valley of funk right now.
No side effects after my 1st BioNTech jab.
Some slight pain in injection area - only when I was pressing this area "for science".
I actually felt great and was constantly hungry over 4 days following the vaccination - I blame it on my subconscious gnome fueling my delusions of being "different" whenever it's possible.
 
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